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matradley
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join:2003-07-03
Ontario
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| Re: What? said by Jeffrey  :Usually they don't develop products, they buy them?? What? Uhh, don't they develop the most widely used OS and Office productivity suite for the consumer and business market? Yes and no. Bill Gates did 'pay' for the original version of DOS for ~$50 000 and then 'borrowed' Steve Job's interface for Windows 1.x.  | |
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
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join:2001-05-12
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: What? said by BillRoland : And DOS is irrelevant because it's dead, ....... How do you boot from a floppy. I know what is a floppy. | |
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nixen
@redcross.org
| said by matradley :said by Jeffrey :Usually they don't develop products, they buy them?? What? Uhh, don't they develop the most widely used OS and Office productivity suite for the consumer and business market? Yes and no. Bill Gates did 'pay' for the original version of DOS for ~$50 000 and then 'borrowed' Steve Job's interface for Windows 1.x. Eesh... I don't think even Jobs would claim that MicroSoft had borrowed anything for Windows 1.x. | |
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| The Way Out
join:2003-01-20 | Word and PowerPoint were both from acquisitions. Windows' IP stack is based heavily on BSD's implementation. | |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY | LOL Microsoft cant even make a product to protect their own OS | |
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jarthur31
join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM | Haha! You gotta be one stupid tard if you're "buying" MS a/v, f/w, etc to protect you from Windows. It should be free. | |
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bassthumpa
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join:2000-12-26
Austin, TX
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| Re: Haha! said by jarthur31 :You gotta be one stupid tard if you're "buying" MS a/v, f/w, etc to protect you from Windows. It should be free. Even if they did that and it worked well, then people would jump up screaming "monopoly!!" and trying to take them to court for including more stuff free.
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA
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| I was looking forward to this working well It only makes sense that the OS developers would be the best ones to protect it. Ideally you'd want a program that meshes itself around the OS like a net with the bit versions of pegs holding them together. The best I can see an outside source doing is sitting between the OS and possible threats. So far that hasnt proven good enough. | |
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| RayW
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Layton, UT
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| Re: I was looking forward to this working well said by Dagda1175 :It only makes sense that the OS developers would be the best ones to protect it. Ideally you'd want a program that meshes itself around the OS like a net with the bit versions of pegs holding them together. The best I can see an outside source doing is sitting between the OS and possible threats. So far that hasnt proven good enough. Ideally you would have an OS that was written right and did not need a bandage (can't say band-aid because that is a legal trademark and we might get sued).
I always find it suspect when I buy something and the seller goes "Oh, do you need to buy protection for that.". To me that means the seller has a vested interest in NOT making the best product in order to sell you the protection.
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theyipper
join:2001-01-18
Oakland, CA | ... This is what happens when managers rush to meet their deadline so that they can get their bonuses. Unfortunately this occurs too often. | |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | This company is well on its way to becoming the watercooler joke of the decade. | |
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ninjatutle
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | One employee...... They've based an article on ONE employees feelings??? 
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
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| Re: One employee...... said by ninjatutle :They've based an article on ONE employees feelings??? Journalism at its finest. It doesn't sound like this is just an employee who decided to talk to the press on his own initiative. He's a senior manager who talked on the record (his name was used in the article), so it stands to reason it was sanctioned or approved by Microsoft. | |
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join:2001-10-05
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emanon12
@wildblue.net
| Windows Live once care is 'junk' Bought this mess for $30 in Circuit City took it home & put on wife's Laptop. Found out you must SUBSCRIBE for 2nd year in advance & pay for it now. WTF?
Also software took up so many system resources , I thought it was as BADD as Norton 2005 (which I just dumped) .
Friends told me about ESET's NOD32. Went with that package.
after using Trial for 30 days. It blows away the Microsoft package. Leo Laporte recommends it too. Bought a 3 license package after my 30 day trial.
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@wildblue.net
|  Anybody want a free copy of Live Windows OneCare
Junk, Junk & more junk. Are we suppossed to pay $$ for this? | |
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tbsteph
join:2002-01-31
Maylene, AL
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| Re: Live OneCare is great Finally, another OneCare user posts an opinion based on personal experience! I too have used OneCare since the first beta (Moved from Norton). First, OneCare is NOT a resource hog. Second, it offers several features that are quite useful: back-up (Including to a net drive), virus scan, tune-up, deletion of temp files etc. Third, very price competitive (3 users). Lastly, despite some recent expert? reports, OneCare has not failed me once. Is it perfect? No, but Norton, McAfee etc. aren't either. | |
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join:2005-09-22
Bossier City, LA
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| Re: Live OneCare is great I also have OneCare. And as tbsteph says its not a resource hog, unless of course you are working with a paltry 512 memory, but I have had some issues where in if for instance windows isn't on the C: drive some its auto functions won't work. I called a phone tech and after about 30 minutes they said Onecare was designed for the average user who installs everything the "recommended" way. | |
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| RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| said by koam :I've had it on all my computers since it was in beta and it is the best security suite I've had. Much fewer problems than NIS and much less cumbersome. I'm a fan. And your experience is the opposite of what I have seen (can't speak for NIS, we use Symantec corporate and ZoneAlarm).
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| jp10558
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join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY
| Well, if all you have to compare it to is NIS... well, that's like saying your Kia is better than your Yugo... NSS lol. Or your Dell PC is better than your old Packard Bell PC lol.
Try some decent products some time, and you'll be suprised. Let's just say when I saw OneCare wanted my SSN to register (WTF?) I just dumped that. Of course, that may have changed in newer versions, last I looked was in December 06.
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edward50
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join:2006-06-10
Brookfield, MO | that says it all quoted from TFA:
"admitted that security is just "a little part of Microsoft""
nothing more needs to be said. | |
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houselog442
join:2005-10-05 | Does everything Microsoft does suck? Is there anything Microsoft does that is any good? | |
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Kreigz
@cox.net
| One Care I found One Care to be far less resource intensive than any Symantec product, and it offered more features. However, I think Symantec has now come out with a matching product in terms of features.
That being said, the bug associated with Outlook pst files is inexcusable! Microsoft's own anti-virus software doesn't recognize the file as a database.
Now, if you guys wanna talk greatest anti-virus software of all time, I'd recommend you take a look at NOD32. | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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| Vista 64 They still dont have support for Vista 64 bit, so I would have to agree with this article and the uk ms employee.
They do have a BETA online scanner for 64 bit but it doesnt have all the features of one care.
»onecare.live.com/site/en-us/cent···snew.htm
btw I think you can also scan on 32 bit vista machines.
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