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Premium
join:2004-02-20
Johnson City, TN
clubs: | Re: Haha... I saw a person recently pushing that crap on BBR. As we say in the South, "Idgits".:p | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Haha... I got two words for morons who push that crap here on BBR..."Hey Mods!":p | |
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@Dial1.Mia | how are you all so sure this is a scam, do you have proof this is a scam. | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Haha... Yes we do. It's called common sense. | |
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join:2004-09-28
Australia
| said by exocet_cm  :
idiots.
said by exocet_cm :
idiots.
Well there are doubters n there r believers
if its not true think about these facts
- there not asking for money so u have nothing to lose so how can it b a scam
- about 6 weeks ago they restricted access on signups to 1 per hour from same IP address, sounds like they were restricting there eventual payout.
- the site has been up n down continuely again restricting there payout
look i wont believe it until i get paid n im owed $13000 so if it comes thru i guess im sayin haha if not least i tried
all u got to lose is ur time n im disabled in wheelchair n i have time a plenty
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join:2004-09-28
Australia | Re: Haha... also i have 1500k adsl now govt paid for i couldnt care less if it works or not
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user726195
Premium
join:2002-11-23
South Pole
1 edit | yeah fool! I'm Juiced!
I just got my 750 billion dollar check from JuiceBoosted.com!!!!! Hurrayyy I knew all those referral links would pay off....
I'm a rich billionaire now...now time to leave this country quick....IRS may want a chunk of that ....
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| noahproblem
join:2004-05-01
Roslindale, MA | Re: yeah fool! For 15% I'll help you smuggle it out of the country - just so long as you can assure me that all will be well at the end of the day....:D | |
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join:2004-09-09
Rutherford, NJ
| Re: yeah fool! said by noahproblem :
For 15% I'll help you smuggle it out of the country - just so long as you can assure me that all will be well at the end of the day....:D
>> Re: yeah fool!
Actually, the 15% should require you to guarentee all will be well. | |
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IllIlIlllIll
EliteData
Premium
join:2003-07-06
Lindenhurst, NY | just like herbalife this scam is the same as "herbalife".
pyramid scam.
make money by selling money
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EliteData
Premium
join:2003-07-06
Lindenhurst, NY | Re: just like herbalife i dont know, but i warned my GF not to buy into these scams, she insisted and lost $250.
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| JPCass
join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| Give Herbalife at least a bit of credit, they have a real product with some possible nutritional value. This is a real "virtual" scam, nothing but vaporware.
It may be true that there are some "real" profits for a few who get in early on the top of the pyramid. I find it interesting that those people are willing to lie, or let themselves believe, that getting some initial payment is somehow validation that the whole scheme is sound and viable.
This also goes to show that there is a certain percentage of people just too gullible, and another certain percentage of "newbies" who just haven't learned yet, who are not affected by "educational" solutions to problems like this. | |
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: just like herbalife said by JPCass :
This also goes to show that there is a certain percentage of people just too gullible...
It's called GREED and dishonesty! You can never scam an honest man! They get exactly what they deserve!
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join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| Re: just like herbalife said by TamaraB :
It's called GREED and dishonesty! You can never scam an honest man! They get exactly what they deserve!
Bob
I think there's a whole section of the population at the lower end of the IQ and educational range that you must not have ever had much contact with. I met quite a few in the military, and have had quite a few more work for me over the years. They get scammed this way all the time, and sadly it is some of the ones with the greatest personal honesty and faith in their fellow man who get fleeced the worst and most often.
That said, a lot of the people involved at least have enough intelligence and street smarts that they have to be suppressing the voice that tells them "if it looks too good to be true, it is", and instead are letting themselves be lured by the lure of some sort of "deal". And then there must be those who know it is probably a scam, but hope to be one of the lucky ones who make money by getting in early. | |
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Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
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| The problem with pyramid schemes is that the real money is made in the start of the scheme. Herbalife has saturated the market so it is almost impossible to make any money off of their scheme.
»search.ebay.com/herbalife_W0QQso···eNameQ3D hQ3AhQ3AfitemQ3AUSQQfromZR6QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0
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My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
1 edit | Re: Norvergence anyone? I was thinking of another broadband scam that was exposed
and thoroughly deconstructed here on BBR: DSL Monster. The
site claimed to be offering free broadband for life, but
there were too many fishy things about it, such as parts
of the site being copied right from others, and more.
I went searching through the old posts to find this one,
and found this (the scammer's site didn't last very long):
»Exposing DSL MONSTER
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA | *adds another hash mark* I keep telling you people...
DOT-COM lives on.
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shaolin216
Keep It Kool
Premium
join:2001-10-06
Reseda, CA
clubs:
1 edit | CrapBoosted... I can't wait till after Oct 4 as Mr. S. Dixon noted on his post in that thread. I wonder what will happen when all the scammed people start complaining that they aren't getting what they've been promised. Obviously they won't see the 2MB broadband speeds JunkBoost... err JuiceBoosted says they'll get. Then I'd like to see the look on people's faces, like Mr. S. Dixon, when they realize what fools they have been to actually support this crap.
I like making money just as much as the person next to me. But I don't jump into things without doing a little bit of research. Hell, Mr Dixon knew about AOL and Microsoft and broadband. Which would leave us to believe that he at least knows a little bit about how dial-up and xDSL/Cable works.
Tell me Mr. S Dixon... how do you get 2MB out of a 56K line? And don't give me that crap about some super-duper compression bit. When you get your line going Mr S Dixon, why don't you swing on by and register. Then head on over to the Speed Test »/stest area, and post your speeds.
said by JuiceBoosted:
"We can STOP your child from chatting to people who pretend to be children in chat rooms by using amazing breakthrough IP filtration and parenthesis technology."
That claim alone should raise a red flag! How is JuiceBoosted going to know whether I'm pretending to be a kid in a chat room from a Dynamic IP addy Mr S Dixon? Hell, I could head on over to the nearest CyberCafe, and go right back in to that same chat room with you kid(s)! How is JuiceBoosted going to know if I'm pretending to be a kid or not Mr S Dixon? How about if my kid (if for example I had any), wanted to chat with your kid, is JuiceBoosted's "breakthrough IP filtration and parenthesis technology" going to see my kid switching places with me?
Anyway, the world will see what happens to JuiceBoosted after October. What a load of horse feces. 
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join:2003-07-17
Holyoke, MA | Re: CrapBoosted... I'm getting a big laugh out of this. Come October anyone still backing Juice, shouldn't be using a computer. They lack the general knowledge to keep themselves & other from being taken online. | |
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@chcgil.ameritech
| I wish they would stop I can understand people thinking these will work and you know I hope they don't get burned that badly. The only thing I can't understand is how these people will not stop and even try to circumvent and hide the fact that they are doing this. I look at a site that lets people post and buy things kind of BBS style for free (I'm not going to pimp the site) and it runs ramped there, just about every day you'll see Free Ipod,Flatscreent tv/monitors, and this crap. Not only do they post it but they'll do email me for more info or go to this geocities site and read on it. The mods there barely do their work but thats not the point. These people are clearly trying to avoid detection and they know what they are doing is wrong, Just stop dammit!
What are they afraid to ask their friends and family in person because they know once the get burned they'll hurt them?
Anyway I think the new bulletin board software that has a warn button on every post is getting more and more use these days  | |
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Premium
join:2003-04-17
Albany, GA
 ·Mediacom
| Funny Thing What i found funny is on their site.....you click for more info and it just gives you their home page asking for your affiliate code or password. You can't open any links unless you already belong to them. This apparently is only for people who have already been screw....I meant juiced.
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@co.za |  Juiceboosted
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B1ggles
@range81-154.btcentra
| Re: Juiceboosted If Juiceboost is a scam, why does www.onspeed.com promise more or less the same?
They are the same. Have a look at Onspeed's website; it's identical. Er, except it's green instead of yellow.
And I don't know if it's me, but as Onspeed's site appeared, Juiceboosted's site has gone, ir at least is presently unavailable.
Juiceboosted was too obvious a scam. Maybe they're trying something more believable?
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join:2004-08-18
UK
|  "how are they going to make money"?
but has anyone mentioned that the juiceboosted 'affiliates' are asked to provide bank account details?!? without any kind of reference to security!?!
i think anyone who's registered is likely to be more than a little disapponted | |
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join:2004-08-18
UK | Re: "how are they going to make money"? sorry - this was meant to be a 'reply' to previous topic - not a new 1 | |
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wildbeast
@optonline.net
| Re: "how are they going to make money"? You're saying that they wnat your banking account but there's an option to choose to pe paid by check. This might be a scam, but why not give it a try? I have nothing to lose but half an hour to advertise them. But seriously, how come authorities allow such scams to prevail at such a large scale. They should be held responsible all victims money loss. | |
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| Brendi
join:2004-08-24
Idaho Falls, ID
| I am an affiliate with JuiceBoosted and I was never asked for any bank account details. The bank account details were just for those wishing to be paid that way. I asked to be paid by check......so there was never any account details given out. If any of you want to join under me, just email me. And if this is by chance a scam...so what...what am I out except my time? But what if it's not? hmmnn...interesting, isn't it? | |
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Steveeee5
join:2004-08-21
Santa Cruz, CA
| D A R T More than 7 years ago I read about away of sending 100m/s
over regular copper phone lines and it was called DART Digital analogue receive and transmit. Has anybody heard of this. I can't find anything on the net about now and I'm sure I saw it. If it existed this could be how something similar could work. Just asking. | |
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leeone
@range81-154.btcentra
| Re: D A R T These are the details that juices web site registrants provide.
Daniel Houghton
27 Old Gloucester Street
LONDON
WC1N 3XX
phone: 08707202094
fax: 08707620458
And these are all its sites registered
www.onjuice.com
www.onjuice.net
www.onjuice.co.uk
www.juiceboosted.com
www.juiceboosted.net
and for those interested there fax number goes to a company called
www.pumaone.com
Puma Unified Communications Ltd
Suite 107
456-458 The Strand
london.
gets more interesting by the minute | |
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juice_loosener
@ntl.com
| Re: D A R T Send your comments in writing to:
Daniel Houghton
PUMA UNIFIED COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED
MULBERRY HOUSE
53 CHURCH STREET
WEYBRIDGE
SURREY KT13 8DJ
as it is the registered address of the company. I guess the postman will have to ask Mummy to move the Ferarri Daniel isn't old enough to drive yet... | |
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Allezoop
@range81-156.btcentra | Re: D A R T by Juiceloosener Appreciate the information
I am interested in your comment that Daniel Houghton isn't old enough to drive yet. Seriously. Thanks. | |
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Dumb and Dumber
@195.153.x.x
| Please get your facts right Hey,
Just thought I'd say that www.onspeed.com is not a scam as one member of this thread unwisely suggested. Onspeed is a real technology reviewed by all the top Computer magazines in the UK and it works very well indeed thankyou. Do not mention juiceboosted and onspeed in the same breath because people might actually believe you.
Juiceboosted indeed looks like onspeed, and why do you think that is? Well, Mugu scammers do it all the time, pick a real business with proven credibility, copy its website, making slight alterations, promise something that is too good to be true and harvest a load of email addresses for another scam.
SOOOO to reiterate, ONSPEED is REAL, JUICEBOOSTED IS NOT. | |
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@ntli.net | Re: Please get your facts right how do they use people's email addresses for another scam? | |
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join:2004-08-21
Fresno, CA
| Here's one possible way. said by teladi:
how do they use people's email addresses for another scam?
Here's something that might reveal one source where the
Juice scam is going to extract money from the masses.
Juice claims to be cautious about affiliate spamming
and requires that any e-mail service provider is
approved by them.
So when a friend of mine put in to have his legitimate list
of opt-in leads OK'd, instead he got back a list of
Juice's "approved" e-mail service providers. When I saw
this, it occurred me that Juice would be making their money
from all these dupes using affiliated e-mail service
providers. But then it got even more obvious.
One stands out to me as a potential scam that looks
an awful lot like Juice's website in design and makes
similar absurd claims. This is monopolizer.com, also
located in London. They claim to guarantee thousands of
sign ups to your affiliate program or downline including
customer sign ups, beginning at a fee of 75 pounds.
They conveniently say they will work for free for pre-
launch opportunities, then charge 9.5% at pay off. So all
the Juice affiliates that are sent there would think, "Gee,
I'm not risking anything if Juice doesn't pay out!"
Then I could see Monopolizer saying, "Well, we signed up
10,000 downline customers for you at Juice (with Juice's
statistical complicity, no doubt) and we charged your
credit card our $3,000 commission. It isn't our fault
Juice was a scam. Bye bye!"
They started up in June and there isn't any other
information on the web about them being a potential scam.
So I thought I'd introduce them here and see what people
think. Isn't June about the time that Juice showed up?
Check them out:
www.monopolizer.com | |
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join:2004-09-19
Los Angeles, CA
| Re: Here's one possible way. I ordered Monopolizer's least expensive package of 1000 affiliates for $138 USD. They e-mailed me a proposal, (you don't actually pay unless you accept the proposal) which included some details and specifies how long it will take them to fill my order (23 days). I was going to give them a try, but now I'm not so sure. They don't take credit cards and they don't take any kind of payment services (PayPal, etc.). The only way to pay them is by check, money order, or bank transfer (you have to request their bank details for the bank transfer). In the USA they will only take a money order or bank transfer (they are located in London). I requested their bank details and they arrived quickly by e-mail, but I hesitate. It's hard to trust a company that can only accept payments by such archaic means. All the companies I have dealt with at least take PayPal. Also, they are kind of new. Does anyone else have experience using Monopolizer's services? | |
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join:2004-08-21
Fresno, CA
| Thanks for the info. Thanks for your information about monopolizer.com, which was more factual than my imaginary scenario. I've seen a few scams lately and I'm getting more and more skeptical. The best thing appears to be to proceed with caution and due diligence as you're doing.
On the subject of payment methods, Juice offered payment to affiliates by PayPal and bank wire, then reneged on it saying they will now pay everyone by check. I haven't read the other posts lately, but I assume everyone knows their site, which was supposed to be down for 5-10 days, will now be down around a month and returning October 1, when they were originally supposed to launch. They only mention bringing the site back up at that time and nothing about getting the software out to the customers or getting the affiliates paid that first week.
This down time just doesn't make any sense, since with the incredible exponential growth going on, they will have turned away hundreds of thousands of potential customers during this period. It is more consistent with the whole pattern of misinformation leading to their eventual disappearance. They appear to have gotten what they need and they're just biding their time before the jig's up.
They delivered none of the information they had promised my friend to fill in the details of their products and services in September. Plus, he can't see any of his stats during this whole situation. It's all vaporous and will probably soon waft away. | |
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Ibiza
@81.41.x.x
| More Daniel Houghton Hi, i´m Ibiza from Spain, I founded more info about other guys called as well Daniel Houghton from London, I hope it helps, not only one guy is called D.H.
»www.councillor.info/lewisham/dho···ult.aspx
www.houghtonlandscapedesign.scsuk.net/pdf/CV_Web.pdf
www.revolutionaryday.com/ usroute7/bennington/houghton.htm
www.cosmovisions.com/Houghton.htm
www.pgil-eirdata.org/html/pgil_datasets/ authors/h/Houghton,D/life.htm
www.lewisham.gov.uk/apps/ councillors/warddetail.asp?ward=EW | |
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stp730
join:2001-12-27
UK
| About Faster Than Broadband (Juiceboosted.com) The www.juiceboosted.com (Faster Than Broadband) opportunity seems too good to be true (and too good to miss), as it offers FREE faster than broadband over a telephone line.
I have been giving considerable thought, over the past few weeks, as to how there could be a scam in it.
I have come up with this possibility, based on the following factors :-
On their website Juice say that you will need a modem to access the service.
They state that on the 1st October they will send a small piece of software to access the FREE service.
They are unwilling to explain how such a fast service can be achieved.
(When experts say that normal phone lines cannot support fast transmission rates).
Looks innocuous, but what if the following scenario applies:-
Using a modem requires the subscriber to USE THEIR PHONE LINE.
The "SMALL PIECE OF ACCESS SOFTWARE" is a PREMIUM RATE NUMBER AUTODIALER
(OR NUMBER DIVERSION PROGRAM DIVERTING TO A PREMIUM RATE DIALER).
By using people's hopes and trust they dupe people into expecting the service and anticipating the delivery of the "ACCESS" software.
The autodialed number could be carrying a large cost, MAYBE AS MUCH AS £200 PER MINUTE or more !.
They know that by using viral marketing techniques, they are going to create a vast army of potential dialers.
Not all those people can be forewarned even if it is revealed that this IS a CON.
Therefore, some people WILL run the software and autodial the service.
The 1st of October sees the delivery of, maybe, 10's of thousands of dialers to all the "AFFILIATES".
Even if some do not run the software, they could become very wealthy, with the ones who do.
If you are an AFFILLIATE, I would suggest that, you do NOT run the "ACCESS SOFTWARE".
Wait until it has been proven to give the FASTER THAN BROADBAND service as promised.
Check with your upline to ascertain this. | |
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Khoo
@cox.net
| This Is JuiceBoosted's Trick: Easy to Figure It  Why can't anyone figure this out especially all you Juice Affiliates out there swarming the world subscribing to all those programs that help affiliates sells. Like 10 millions hits.com kind of thing that post to millions all at one time and thus recruiting by the millions too!!!
How much do you pay? $20 a month or $100 for a yr.?
Hey what about the ones Juice recommends or has to approve?? Can you imagine what kind of money they make as affiliates for these that they associate with? How much have they made already? What about packing up and leaving? If it were me, I would be gone by now. See it??:D | |
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| Artemist
join:2004-08-19
England
| Re: This Is JuiceBoosted's Trick: Easy to Figure It What a bunch of pillocks you are. One of the biggest software companies in the world quotes the SKBI group of companies, and none of you tefal brained geniuses can find the. What a bunch of ignoramuses you really are. They can be found by the genius of Artemist, who has been slagged from here to there on every juiceboosted forum on the internet. If you want to know how big juiceboosted really is, PM me politely. If you ask the right question, you will get thje right answer. | |
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join:2004-08-19
England
| Re: This Is JuiceBoosted's Trick: Easy to Figure It No one has been back to me so far. juiceboosted is still up and running. By all appearances, monopolizer has superceeded Juice. None of you Tefal brains has picked up the inference or relationship between the pair of them.
This is supposed to be a brain committee.
I now regard all you clever non-stick r soles as a drained committee, until you prove otherwise.
If you are not clever enough to solve the similarity which it appears someone has planted as a clue, do not stick around, but instead slip quietly into the oblivion for which you were preordained before you left the womb. | |
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KestonMan
join:2004-10-03
England
| Juiceboosted & Monopolizer I read the theory posted about affiliates having to use approved marketing companies with interest. I followed all the procedures & ended up sending my £100.00 to Monopolizer to market my juiceboosted site. Up to now certain comments about these two being linked & one is making money out of the other seems a reasonable assumption.
However, my colleague also signed up for Juiceboosted & he followed me to Monopolizer only to be told that they limited the amount of subscribers for each promotion & he was too late as they were full. This does not support the scam theory at all.
I was involved with a very similar scheme some four years ago also with a London based company. This failed due to the overwhelming response & their servers could not cope. They said they would be back as soon as they sorted this out. Back then it was suggested that Virgin were behind it but that was never confirmed? Technology has moved on a pace since then & server capacity should now not be a problem.
The former service collected information about the sites you visited, when you visited them & how long you stayed. This info was converted into data & used to selectively market similar sites to you on a passive 'click on link' basis. The power (& their earnings) came from the very selective nature of the marketing by the 'inside' information they had on you. Also the size of their user base would be the largest in the world in about 18-months & growing. This would become the ultimate marketing tool on similar lines to Free Ad newspapers but with the world as its market & a far easier delivery.
The compression technology to reduce 'packets' of data has been developed over many years & much good work was done by Dr.Peter Carnel (Basingstoke UK)in the early '90's. Has it been perfected now? Juice claim to be using US military software, so it may be possible?
We shall find out when juiceboosted goes live, if it goes live.
KestonMan London | |
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| bakma
join:2004-10-11
Malaysia | Re: Juiceboosted & Monopolizer I received a reply from juice boosted today that they will pay the commission to affiliates | |
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ObserverOfDoom
@sympatico.ca
| now what? I'm curious, anyone got paid at all? Because as all of you probably know, juiceboosted.com is down and I can't really find any aftermath summary by googling the relevant topics. Be it good coverup or simply people not wanting to talk about how they got screwed out of their time and money, I'm still wondering what happened with the payouts and even more so, how did they collect their scam revenue in the end?
Best regards to all respectable contributors to this thread (and ha-ha to the others). | |
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