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Japan Inc. | So? Doesn't surprise me. That coming from a communist state. | |
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Japan Inc. | Re: So? What about suppressing the ones that oppose and criticize The Party? The puppet Malay president, etc. | |
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| Re: So? said by SamsungSucks  :What about suppressing the ones that oppose and criticize The Party? The puppet Malay president, etc. The word for that is authoritarian. It's not necessarily communistic (though the communists in power were/are very guilty of it). Communism is a fiscal system that involves government ownership of all industry. Singapore is capitalistic but authortarian. | |
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| Re: So? Actully, Singapore is not communist nor is it ruled by communists. In fact it has been strongly anti-communist and pro-western since independence, especially under Lee Kuan Yew.
And yes Singapore is somewhat of an authoritarian state, but that is not the problem. The problem is that it is a nanny state. You can't even speed without your car making all sorts of noise letting you know you are breaking the law.
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Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: So? Troll, and a poor one at that.... | |
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| Funny...(to reciprocate your partisan jab)as mentioned above, Singapore isn't strictly Communist, just authoritarian...and is apparently a big fan of protecting the public from themselves, something the Dems love to do.  | |
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vpoko
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| said by SamsungSucks :Doesn't surprise me. That coming from a communist state. Their laws are nuts, but do you know what communist means? | |
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Madison, NJ | Re: So? What is wrong with their "Laws"?
Surely just because "gum" has been prohibited for a while this isn't your reason? | |
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| Re: So? said by IanR :What is wrong with their "Laws"? Surely just because "gum" has been prohibited for a while this isn't your reason? That and their love for the death penalty. | |
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said by vpoko :said by IanR :What is wrong with their "Laws"? Surely just because "gum" has been prohibited for a while this isn't your reason? That and their love for the death penalty. I had to read that one three times just to make sure ... I was laughing so hard .....
(for the unititiated - the states has an unhealthy love of both firearms and the execution of select criminal groups) | |
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| Re: So? said by grandpinaple :The US does not have a love of the death penalty. Our appeals process is like 20 years. I don't get what you are saying about fire arms either, guns are perfectly ok in the right hands. He said "gum", not "guns". | |
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pnh102
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| said by SamsungSucks :That coming from a communist state. Singapore isn't communist. It's just being fascist in this regard.
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| said by SamsungSucks :Doesn't surprise me. That coming from a communist state. If it were really a communist state, they'd have enforcement against the neighbors who dared to run a private home network of their own. There would be a "people's" network serving the entire country and it would be a citizen's only choice of internet access (unless one were a party official!). It would also have terrible quality of service because without competition it would be truly free of motivation. | |
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| said by SamsungSucks :Doesn't surprise me. That coming from a communist state. Ignorance is bliss, huh? | |
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| Re: Yikes! said by TK Junk Mail :Maybe the court will settle for giving the little creep a few whacks with a stick in public - just what he deserves. Break the law and pay a penalty - something not fully grasped by all the lawbreakers in the US. We really should look to Singapore for guidance in our law enforcement practices, you are correct. | |
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| Re: Yikes! said by sporkme :We really should look to Singapore for guidance in our law enforcement practices, you are correct. Amen to that. We start public beatings of convicted criminals in public, and we will completely eliminate crime in this country. Provided the beatings aren't lethal or physically debilitating, they should pass the muster of the 8th Amendment.
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| Re: Yikes! said by pnh102 :said by sporkme :We really should look to Singapore for guidance in our law enforcement practices, you are correct. Amen to that. We start public beatings of convicted criminals in public, and we will completely eliminate crime in this country. Provided the beatings aren't lethal or physically debilitating, they should pass the muster of the 8th Amendment. That and bring back chain-gangs.
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| Re: Yikes! said by hpguru :said by pnh102 :said by sporkme :We really should look to Singapore for guidance in our law enforcement practices, you are correct. Amen to that. We start public beatings of convicted criminals in public, and we will completely eliminate crime in this country. Provided the beatings aren't lethal or physically debilitating, they should pass the muster of the 8th Amendment. That and bring back chain-gangs. They never went away! Arizona still has chain gangs to this day. Even for women!
»www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest/10···ng.reut/
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Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: Yikes! Arizona has chain gangs, and Singapore doesn't have graffiti....
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| Singapore Enforces their laws and more power to them. BIG signs at airport (paraphrasing here:) You bring dope into our country we will hang you, and they aren't kidding. Living in AZ where we DO have Chain Gangs the call to bring them back generally brings a tear to my eye. If people want to be scumballs they can learn to drag a chain around and pick up trash... | |
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| said by pnh102 :said by sporkme :We really should look to Singapore for guidance in our law enforcement practices, you are correct. Amen to that. We start public beatings of convicted criminals in public, and we will completely eliminate crime in this country. Provided the beatings aren't lethal or physically debilitating, they should pass the muster of the 8th Amendment. Yes, that is true, but you're forgetting something: it won't profit the billion dollar prison industry, the largest growing industry in the US.
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JimF
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| Excessive? It sounds excessive, especially when the owner could turn on wireless security and solve the problem. But in a few years, we will define our "property" not by the land we own, but by the amount of cyberspace we occupy. Do you want to allow someone to trespass on your property with impunity? | |
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Auburn, AL | USA! This is just like what the USA does!
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| This article isn't clear. "The report said Tan is accused of using a laptop computer to gain unauthorized access to a home wireless network on May 13."
I would hope he bypassed some type of security. If they are calling the act of automatically connecting to an open wifi connection a crime, that would be insane. | |
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| Re: This article isn't clear. said by insomniac84 :If they are calling the act of automatically connecting to an open wifi connection a crime, that would be insane. 'probably more than just connecting. If he used that connection to actually access something on the network (like an internet connection), that would be where he'd get into trouble.
Just because the front door is open, that doesn't mean you're allowed to walk in and raid the refrigerator. | |
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| Re: This article isn't clear. What makes more sense, punishing everyone who connects to open wifi connections and turning lots of innocent people into criminals, or just telling people to secure their connection unless they want others to use it? The security doesn't even have to be good, it just has to be there. WEP is more than enough to make it illegal for someone to use your connection. | |
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| Not enough information in the newsblurb They IMPLY it was an unsecured network, but do not SAY it was. The neighbor COMPLAINED, but how MANY times?
As for the people complaining about the Singaporean laws, I got the impression that most people there liked them, the ones who did not were the usually the ones who felt it was their right to do things that annoyed others. I know that when they decided to cane people in public instead of locking them up in a nice comfortable cell with TV and three squares a day at tax payer's expense, people in the US got upset since the perps got embarrassed in public instead of a free hotel stay.
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Collegeville, PA | Re: Not enough information in the newsblurb Most people surveyed like them. Those that don't are in jail or nursing their flayed buttocks. Caning isn't just about embarrassment; it's about pain and maiming. | |
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| Re: Not enough information in the newsblurb said by russotto :..... Caning isn't just about embarrassment; it's about pain and maiming. You are probably partially wrong, but that is just my opinion. From what I recall about the law, MAIMING is not part of the punishment, although it is possible that maiming can occur since they have no realistic control over the amount of force and actual pain applied per subject (all people are different).
And at the age that most people are caned, it is a bit late for the full effect of the Pavlovian response training to take affect, that should have been done when they were kids by their parents (mine used a belt on my sit down spot). I understand that for most (not all) people it is the public embarrassment part that is the prime part of the punishment. As I recall (yea, I am dating myself), it was not getting whacked by the teacher with the ruler that you feared (although it was NOT enjoyable), but the razzing from the other kids.
CAVEAT: I have not paid attention to Singapore for many years, caning may have evolved from what it was when it first started.
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| That kid is going to jail. I'm not saying I agree with the fact that this kid is probably going to get jailtime but Singapore is one of the strictest countries on Earth.
If I recall correctly Singapore is the same country where chewing gum is BANNED and if you get caught chewing gum you get sentenced to being BEATEN with a CANE.
more info on the chewing gum ban here:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gu···ingapore
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Kihei, HI | max penalties being reported... ...and how often are max penalties imposed? ...and that's assuming a guilty verdict.
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Scarborough, ON | As it says The kid is a punk. | |
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Asmodeus1
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| thank the stars that you live in the US where these things don't happen, unless of course you are karlmarx and see big brother watching you wherever you go...
this is but a baited ploy to draw karlmarx into another one of his bush regime tirades that usually fueled by his irrational hatred. | |
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| Re: thank the stars Well, its Singapore's law, so what yall gonna do about it?
Start a letter campaign and overflow the US embassy with papyrus?
lol@irrational hatred...
Did God come down and bless you with the wizdom of the universe? Surely we can't take YOUR word for it now can we?
Karl's got a right to his opinion as much as you got the right to bash em for it. But for Christ's sake stay on topic.
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| Re: thank the stars what is it with you guys...? why would you even make mention of god coming down do bless me with the wisdom of the universe...? i never made mention of anything like this, but you seem to see it where i don't and interjected nonetheless... either way, karl has a right to his opinion, but it's to bad that it's never backed up with facts and invariably ends up being wrong... you can have an opinion that is wrong you know... get another schtick... | |
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delenn13
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| Stealing is a crime!!! Stealing Wifi is the same as stealing cable..It's a CRIME. It's using something you are not paying for.
However I do think 3 Years of imprisonment is a bit over kill. It needs to fit the crime. 6 Months and a fine and maybe some kind of Community Service would be better served.
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| It's a deterent sentence. I feel that this is more of a deterent sentence. Usually, in the first (ever) guilty verdict for any new law, the prosecution wld petition the judge to impose a deterent sentence as an example for the general public that 'you can go to jail for a long time' if you wanna try follow his footsteps. And the mass-media will surely publicize this to spread the 'word'. That guy prolly got close to max sentence as prescribed by the law.
Sometimes, when an illegal practice is too prevalent, the prosecution will also petition the judge for this.
It matters not that, after appeals and further mitigation, that sentence is finally reduced to 6 mo. And the mass-media will report this in 1 short paragraph. So, what sticks in everyone's mind is '3 yrs jail for WiFi freeloading'.
Had he gotten 3 mo instead of 3 yrs, do y'all think you'd get to read it here? Wld it deter anyone?
And usually, they will go after a 'hardcore' culprit, one that so abuses the system, and is 'so guilty' to gain that first judgement to set an example.
You accidentally trespass into my property, sure, you'd get chased off. But you come into my celler to raid my wine collection, I've every right to shoot you. And for this WiFi thingie, this is as good as him getting shot.
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| Re: Stealing is a crime!!! said by delenn13 :Stealing Wifi is the same as stealing cable..It's a CRIME. It's using something you are not paying for. True enough. But what I find curious is that the crime is really against the ISP, since they are losing the additional revenue. The owner of the WiFi probably does not even notice any lost bandwidth unless he is monitoring it carefully. The ISP really should be bringing the charges. | |
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| CSE so.. we have the ""Cyber Security Enhancement Act 2002"" which falls under the Department of homeland security.
»www.cybercrime.gov/homeland_225.htm
»www.cybercrime.gov/homeland_CSEA.htm
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| Singapore is a parliamentary republic Country name: Republic of Singapore
conventional short form: Singapore
Government type: parliamentary republic
Capital: Singapore
Independence: 9 August 1965 (from Malaysian Federation)
chief of state: President
head of government: Prime Minister
cabinet: Cabinet appointed by the president, responsible to Parliament
elections: president elected by popular vote for a six-year term;
Legislative branch: unicameral Parliament (84 seats; members elected by popular vote to serve five-year terms)
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