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·Optimum Online
| Downtime I know people on charter that haven't been able to hit MSN or hotmail in days. (I'm not their tech, nor will I , I'm going word of mouth).
Time to Find a Mail server that doesn't have a TARGET on them. -- Who do you want to pay off today? | |
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@qwest.net | Re: Downtime i remember the time when i was not literate and had to fight the virus issues. | |
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 B Premium,MVM join:2000-10-28 | Fix Headline... HotMail Servers Thwart Sober-Z Did you mean "thwarted by"? "suffer"?
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 |   Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | Re: Fix Headline... Submittor had pulled it from e-mail battles. Changed it. Thanks. | |
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| I think the Email Battles headline was intended to playfully imply that these ISPs had thwarted Sober by downing their servers with their own incompetence.
Gotta love the grammar police, but it'd be nice if they'd read the linked article before throwing stones. | |
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| Re: Fix Headline... trip, that's an awfully long stretch to interpret a headline, particularly when the word "thwart" was not placed in ironic quotes and the supposed sarcasm/playfulness you've pulled out of nowhere isn't supported in the body of the article.
Grammar police? You're an idiot. The headline just didn't make sense, and the news manager here agreed.
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| Re: Fix Headline... B, the EB headline ("Hot Mail Servers Thwart Sober-Z") is obtuse, especially if read "Hotmail," instead of "Hot Mail." I believe the idea is that Webcentral's data center was trashed by heat, not Sober. It's a play on words.
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@optonline.net
| Re: Clueless users still weak point in security Far more so from simply running unknown attachments.
A certain Comcast user has been sending me the new Sober version virtually from the day it appeared. Even after I identified who it was, contacted them and provided a link to a removal tool. A week after the latter, they are still coming in.
Until ISP's start cutting off infected users, virii and worms will continue to cause issues like this. | |
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  Jafo232 You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat. Premium join:2002-10-17 Boonville, NY | Hmm... Hmm, no Gmail eh? | |
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  BeesTea Network Janitor Premium,VIP join:2003-03-08 00000
| 16,000 new viruses I wonder what percentage of these new viruses were just reconfigured/compiled variations of existing malware ?
It probably helps the bottom line to count every variant as a new virus if you're in the detection business, but I'd be interested in seeing some deeper data. -- Captain of the ATU Tux Racer Clan. | |
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| Re: 16,000 new viruses Yeah I think 15,320 of them are Sober variants. The Av companies have resorted to just attaching serial numbers to end end of each new version.
Sober-A156S53 Sober-A156S54 Sober....
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 |  ghost16825 Use security metrics Premium join:2003-08-26
| said by BeesTea :I wonder what percentage of these new viruses were just reconfigured/compiled variations of existing malware ? It's really hard to give a short answer on this. If you're really interested check out F-secure's virus variant diagrams (through diary blog?). The first handful of variants are similar to the original virus, but you may be surprised to find out that that some Sober variants have more in common with Bagle variants and vice versa etc.
(Some of those wall charts look pretty funky too) -- Admin of the Kerio 2x-like open source project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerio/ http://kerio.sourceforge.net/
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join:2004-06-21 Sammamish, WA 1 edit | eMail scans So why aren't more ISPs being proactive and scan email for viruses like AOL and Google? | |
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join:2004-03-20 Bend, OR
| Re: eMail scans said by Pictor Guy :So why aren't more ISPs being proactive and scan email for viruses like AOL and Google? You mean like MSN and Hotmail, which use TrendMicro. - | |
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| Re: eMail scans said by tbeckner :You mean like MSN and Hotmail, which use TrendMicro. For real? That explains alot right there. I wouldda thought even MS was above TrendMicro. | |
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  sporkme drop the crantini and move it, sister Premium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ
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| ...and the moron admins The virus is bad enough, but that I can control.
One thing that really ticks me off are all the Exchange "Admins" that run some virus scanner that replies to each and every email with a "you sent and infected email" message. I get far more of that crap than the actual virus. In 1995 those messages were vaguely useful. In 2005 they are downright stupid as the "from" is always forged.
Anyone know of an RBL that targets servers that send AV bounces? -- enjoy zesty ranch man-flavored baby tacos responsibly | |
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join:2004-03-20 Bend, OR
| Re: ...and the moron admins said by sporkme :One thing that really ticks me off are all the Exchange "Admins" that run some virus scanner that replies to each and every email with a "you sent and infected email" message. Did you know that some of those "you sent an infected email" messages are virus generated and actually don't come from an AntiVirus program. The three Exchange servers I administer, only send notifications directly to me, but then again that is only if they get through the Anti-Spam and attachment filters first and do not come from an IP Address that has been identified as dynamic. [I sure wish the big e-mailers {COMCAST as an example} would be GOOD INTERNET CITIZENS and setup their SPF TXT records.] - | |
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join:2004-09-27 Pensacola, FL | No worries here I have AOL and ALL their protection. Boy, do I feel safe! ROFLMAO! | |
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