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| Re: The internet is cool, but........ I agree, I wouldn't die for the internet, but I also think that access to anything on the internet shouldn't be restricted.
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| Re: The internet is cool, but........ said by taar  :I can think of a million better things to die for.... Porn would be one, and thus, why he needs internet access.  | |
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99664227
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USA | Um last time I checked Cuba was still a Communist paradise? No shit the government controls everything. He would be better floating on a raft to the USA to get access to the internet.
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| said by 99664227 :He would be better floating on a raft to the USA to get access to the internet. Or building one of the world's largest WiFi antennas. Maybe he can mooch from the famously free ISP, SSID: Linksys, all the way from Florida? | |
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| Yeah, it isn't that he "likes it more than the next guy." It is that he is being denied access to certain sites that the Cuban Government censors. It really is a noble thought, but ultimately, one that will only end with his demise. Castro doesn't give a rat's ass about any of his people nor their right to information. He will probably end up just having him arrested and put to death prematurely anyway. | |
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Danville, PA | Go live in cuba then tell me about better things to do, don't take if you never been there. | |
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Danville, PA | Re: May he RIP. I am sure he has internet, haha, only way to get internet there is to go kill some dictators, if not might as well dies of hunger. | |
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R.I.P Bassman442
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| Re: May he RIP. Saves Fidel a bullet. The cost savings should do wonders for their economy. | |
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| Next Fad Diet ? Can this be the next fad diet ? Maybe the cuban internet ?
BTW does he really think one death in that country will make them ALL revolt. Maybe next time he should join the gorilla fighters there instead.
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| Re: Next Fad Diet ? said by BosstonesOwn :Maybe next time he should join the gorilla fighters there instead. Its guerillas, not gorillas. Gorillas are animals, although some guerillas are too!
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Tools Are Using Me
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| Re: Next Fad Diet ? said by wifi4milez :said by BosstonesOwn :Maybe next time he should join the gorilla fighters there instead. Its guerillas, not gorillas. Gorillas are animals, although some guerillas are too! Not to be confused with the GORILLAZ »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillaz - which is a virtual music band.
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Castro's Gone Soft I'm surprised the Cubans didn't just kill Dr. Farinas at the outset of his campaign, and that we've even heard of his plight. This guy has balls... I just hope he doesn't meet the same fate as others who disagree with the Cuban government.
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I hope they don't let him die though
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| Re: Props to this guy Funny how the first few posts were about ....The internet is cool but not worth a life, and how one man thinks his life means nothingif anything.
His life means something....FREEDOM OF SPEECH and basic human rights !! Some of us take stuff like this for granted. Just like we try to fight big brother , he fight the devil himself " Fidel cagalitroso Castro.
Yes this man has the big ones on him...
hope this will once and for all open the eyes of these little Che t-shirt wearing @##@ and the media.
Only time will tell. This man is my hero too. | |
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King75
King Of All And Nothing
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| It isn't always about the internet I think alot of people are missing the point. I doubt he is dying for the internet (Literally.) I think this is more about "his right to freedom of information." Whether it is in books, magazines, or the internet his is protesting this dictators censorship in all aspects of life not just the internet. | |
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet I agree. It is more a move for freedom, not internet access.
It is sad but this person will not get what he wants until castro is gone.
I hope he gets a lot of publicity though.
That way maybe he won't "disappear" and still make a point. | |
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join:2002-06-12
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet Wow. You guys seem to be really out of touch with reality in countries that are hostile to the united states. I suppose its the dependence on local/national media for your information. Cuba, while in some aspects repressive is not the cold war hell that the US tries to make it out to be. Yes the government down there can be extremely hostile to outside influence but if you realize theyre just south of the worlds sole superpower (which does not like them) you would start to understand.
Cuba has been invaded by the US twice if anyone cares to read history taught outside of high school. Once during spanish rule, in which the US did assist overthrowing the spanish rulers, but in turn prevented the native rebels from assuming government posts unless they were pro-us (ie pro business interests). The US friendly regime then whored the country out to corporate interests such as united fruit who sent the natives into some of the worst poverty the world has seen.
This created the catalyst to launch Fidel and Che into power, ousting the capitalists and giving the excuse for the Bay of Pigs incident. So, if youre running a tiny nation in the backyard of a hostile superpower would that not make you a little paranoid?
That said, I do not condone the repressive aspects of the party running cuba. I simply try to understand why people react the way they do. People also need to understand that Cuba was under the influence of Soviet Stalinism (NOT communism, which is like agreeing that Iraq was a republic as they called themselves) and many of the models of repression still have not been overcome which were inherited from soviet advisers during the cold war.
Another thing is people need to look at some of the good things about cuba. Just north of them we live in the worlds wealthiest nation on the planet. We also dont have free health care like they do, which is world renowned. They also exist on virtually no oil consumption, check gnn.tv for an excellent article on "How Cuba Survived Peak Oil" . Plus they have been under severe economic sanctions led by the US for decades, which became dire after the fall of the USSR, their largest trading partner.
So yes, they need to change some things like censorship. But the tired old knee jerk reaction of most americans saying "Theyre repressive commies who shoot everyone who disagrees" makes you look like an uneducated typical american. Quit shaming those of us who are not uneducated. | |
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet honestly, Soviet Stalinism versus communism...how different is the end result really? The good things about Cuba don't outweigh the bad, IMO (also, what are the costs of that so-called "free" healthcare?)...and I will not be an apologist for Castro. | |
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet said by vinnie97 :honestly, Soviet Stalinism versus communism...how different is the end result really? The good things about Cuba don't outweigh the bad, IMO (also, what are the costs of that so-called "free" healthcare?)...and I will not be an apologist for Castro. Read the definition of communism, Stalin was no more a true communist then Castro is. There has not ever been a true communist country. Problem with Castro is he does lack resources and at some point that will be his downfall. watch Raul though he's next in line. Yes it was our fault too we supported Baustia. | |
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How do you like these Apples
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| said by runlevelfour : We also dont have free health care like they do, which is world renowned. Do you have some links to show how Cuba's healthcare system is world renowned? I have a hard time believing a poor country like cuba could afford any type of health care equipment like MRI's etc that would make it even close to be in that category. | |
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet Do you have some links to show how Cuba's healthcare system is world renowned? I have a hard time believing a poor country like cuba could afford any type of health care equipment like MRI's etc that would make it even close to be in that category.
It’s called heroin, coke, and sugar canes. Who needs an MRI scan when you got the worlds best narcotics in your backyard. | |
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join:2005-10-02
Delta, BC
| Do you have some links to show how Cuba's healthcare system is world renowned? I have a hard time believing a poor country like cuba could afford any type of health care equipment like MRI's etc that would make it even close to be in that category.
Dude, wtf?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba#Public_health
Cuba's healthcare system is widely regarded as one of the best in the world; however WHO data cited here comes directly from national health authorities of each country . Thus, there are some who do not trust this data. Cuba has had good doctors for centuries such as Carlos Finlay, who determined how yellow fever was spread; thus during the 1898-1902 US presence in Cuba with much heroic sacrifice such as that of Clara Louise Maas yellow fever was essentially eliminated. The massive Havana hospital, "Calixto Garcia" as well as 72 others were operating well before 1959. However, like the rest of the Cuban economy, Cuban medical care has suffered from severe material shortages following the end of Soviet subsidies. Support from the Venezuelan government of Hugo Chávez has alleviated some of those problems.
Today, according to Cuban government statistics, Cuba has over 71,000 doctors, with 20,000 health workers in Venezuela, and 5,000 more spread around the world in over 60 additional countries, as it views such missions an important part of its foreign policy. They offer medical services to 85,154,748 people; 34,700,000 in Latin America and the Caribbean and 50,400,000 in Africa and Asia.
Cuba has sent doctors to underdeveloped nations and educated foreign doctors since the early 1960s. It dispatched physicians to help Nicaragua and Peru, then hostile to Cuba, recover from earthquakes.
Cuban doctors played a vital role in the health-care system of Sri Lanka in the 1980s, particularly in the war-torn North-east province, when a crisis in that country's education system limited the number of doctors coming out of universities.
Cuba has also given treatment on the island to more than 14,000 children and 4,000 adults damaged by radiation in Chernobyl, which is actually more than the rest of the world combined has done for the victims during that catastrophe.
During the UN's general assembly in 2000, Fidel Castro offered the United Nations 6,000 doctors for service in the third world.
The average life expectancy at birth in Cuba is roughly equal to that of the United States. Also, Cuba spends only 7.5% of its GDP on healthcare compared to 14.6% in the US. | |
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join:2006-03-09
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet Wow free health care....Like someone here said. Have any of you guys or ladies been to Cuba and seen the free health care?
Let me tell you it sucks. First their is a different from what a Cuban gets and a tourist gets to see. Cuban are treated like animals. Yes is free and they do have a bunch of doctors but not for Cubans.
Here is a link for all you people that want to learn about the real Cuba and its free health care and free education. The sites are Babalublog.com and if you want pictures of the real Cuba go here :therealcuba.com. Click away and look for yourself.
Now for Nagalaz :Another thing is people need to look at some of the good things about cuba. Just north of them we live in the worlds wealthiest nation on the planet. We also dont have free health care like they do, which is world renowned. They also exist on virtually no oil consumption, check gnn.tv for an excellent article on "How Cuba Survived Peak Oil" . Plus they have been under severe economic sanctions led by the US for decades, which became dire after the fall of the USSR, their largest trading partner.
LOL is called apagones !!! Cuba does not need oil cause they shut off electricity in Cuba for all cubans for hours or days and Cubans have to carry buckets of water because water pumps run on ....Oh let me see? Electricity !!!
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So yes, they need to change some things like censorship. But the tired old knee jerk reaction of most americans saying "Theyre repressive commies who shoot everyone who disagrees" makes you look like an uneducated typical american. Quit shaming those of us who are not uneducated.
Quit shaming us who ARE educated about Cuban liberties. You are a true moron. Do some research on Cuba before you spew your true stupidity. If you are against the so call revolution you are basically screw. Trial without representation, go to jail or if they want >>>>YES SHOT DEAD and no questions asked. By the way this called paredon de fusiliamento ". I bet you have never being to Cuba but you went to some hollywood/ Left party school were they fed you some crap on how Castro has done wonders in Cuba. | |
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join:2001-09-10
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"Cuba's healthcare system is widely regarded as one of the best in the world; however WHO data cited here comes directly from national health authorities of each country ."
So they are just taking Castro's word for it then?
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA | Where did you get this stuff from looks nice except I have been there, its bull, big bull only 5 percent of the population gets medical treatment so this sound really nice but like most propaganda who cares. | |
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wakko
I Blame Duhbya
join:2000-02-05
Sterling, VA
| Although I agree with some of your points, I still disagree with your opinions on this matter. Have you ever visited cuba? Do you have family that has lived/lives there? Because I have, on both accounts, and let me tell you that it's not a place you would like to live, "free" health care or not. I applaud this person for standing up in a place where expressing your thoughts in the government is prohibited.
The sad part is that this person will likely end up in jail with the tens of thousands of other political prisoners currently in the cuban jails. I'd recommend you watch the documentary entitled "Fidel" and "Fidel Castro: American Experience, 2004". Maybe if the US would stop bullying the world around because they don't "think like we do" then this would be a much safer world to live in. Just my opinion of course.
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cao1964
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet Sure and we all could just hold hands right, think about what your saying you think dictators and killers are created by the USA or is it more that humanity is what it is, a war oriented animal?
The USA may put its nose where it does not need to be, but they are not the one pulling the trigger on all the deaths, around the world, personally Iraq is a good thing, makes for an interesting world change, should be very interesting to see what happens there, a bit of world distabilisation would not be a bad thing since out of it better things. And if not well at least its always fun to see my stocks go up.
Only problem I see with Iraq is that we did not go to conquer them, if that was the case it would have been all over now, we went in to help for what ever reason and that means another useless police action and that is dumb. | |
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wakko
I Blame Duhbya
join:2000-02-05
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| Re: It isn't always about the internet Paraphrasing here-
said by cao1964 :...makes for an interesting world change, should be very interesting to see what happens there...And if not well at least its always fun to see my stocks go up. Only problem I see with Iraq is that we did not go to conquer them... Thank you very much for showing everyone so well the mentality of the US government and the people who support it. Capitalism at it's finest, regardless of who it affects, you sir are blind to the world. Nothing but pig headedness, greed and ego's disguised as "patriotism".
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wakko
I Blame Duhbya
join:2000-02-05
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| said by cao1964 :Sure and we all could just hold hands right, think about what your saying you think dictators and killers are created by the USA or is it more that humanity is what it is, a war oriented animal? Please do some research into this before you speak, you will then find out how many of these "dictators/puppets" we've put into power and then got bit in the ass for it (Saddam for one), the US has always done a horrible job at pretending to provide "world stability" by funding rebels. Please also check the crime statistics as we are the world leader in violent crimes and deaths using guns, the country is full of killers.
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The USA may put its nose where it does not need to be, but they are not the one pulling the trigger on all the deaths, around the world, personally Iraq is a good thing, makes for an interesting world change, should be very interesting to see what happens there, a bit of world distabilisation would not be a bad thing since out of it better things. And if not well at least its always fun to see my stocks go up
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yeah, that really shows you´re willing to help people you don´t know, remember "each head is a world", if one method sdoes not work, try another, there´s (almost) always a peacefull solution to that kind of crap, i bet you think your greatest mission in this world is to make money (Pfft!)
may you escape that kind of ignorance, i seriously hope so
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| Wow. You are really out of touch with reality in countries that are hostile to the united states. Wow, they have free health care!!! Except, the media forgets to tell you that there is no medicine, but hey, it's free.
Wow, they have free education up through the university level!!! Except, the media forgets to tell you that your major is decided by the government depending on what jobs are needed at the time.
Yes Cuba has virtually no oil consumption. That happens when you don't have any cars in your country or your population is too poor to afford cars or shoes for that matter.
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Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
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| I know all about Cuban history and not the one taught by hate the US first crowd. As for Cuba's fantastic health care system the way they treat AIDS is great they round up those suffering from it and throw them in detention centers. Having said all of this I have been to Cuba and it is a beautiful place, so why do the people want to leave such a place; that is obvious.
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| Thank you. Your post was long but great. Did not think truly educated people like myself actually used the forums. I learned the false history but after meeting some great friends from cuba & guatemala I am well versed in the United Fruit Co. And the CIA ties they had. This is all documented in the book 'The Bitter Fruit'. I hope this guys gets the access he desires without dying, but there definitely is a lot more to his cause. | |
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join:2004-09-10
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| LOL...There goes another brain washed bastard!. just leave 18 years of your life under Castro's totalitarian regime. Removing worms from your lunch and wiping your butt with news paper. Like I did!. And comeback to talk about History and Yankee crap. | |
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gudel
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Santa Barbara, CA | boat why hunger strike? get on a boat, off to florida. then you can have all internet you'll ever need! | |
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| Re: boat said by gudel :why hunger strike? get on a boat, off to florida. then you can have all internet you'll ever need! I don't know about all the internet you'll ever need. Seems they're losing their internet access, one node at a time.  | |
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Mexico
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(i´m starting to believe that thing about coomputer radiation affecting people´s brains)
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Glamour Profession
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| Re: This is precisely the kind of situation... I was about to mention freenet. I'm glad someone did before me.
I have a freenet node running, I customized it to take advantage of more computer resources.
Unfortunely, Cuba probably has freenet sites censored so nobody can get on the network, too. 
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Ham band guy
join:2005-07-13
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| RE:It is'nt all about the internet Kudos to you for providing the links to show the REAL Cuba. Every middle,high,and college student should see those links. Information the Castro loving left wing teachers in most of our schools and universities would NEVER reveal-it hits too close to home with these people.
I don't even think private or Catholic schools are much different, teachers come from the same general mold.(my kids go to a catholic school and I've heard some of the pro left rhetoric,albiet not too much,of which I help to set my kids straight on the truth). | |
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| Go Guillermo this man have big cojones and hes my hero, i am Cuban and i know what can happen to you for try to do somenting against the Fidel fucking law. to many Cuban like my self just left the country and here is this man fight back this fuckers FIDELIST, yes hes a hero | |
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Who Dares Wins
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