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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | blimp broadband Where is my blimp broadband? | |
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 |   Smith6612 Premium join:2008-02-01 united state | Re: blimp broadband It's not going to happen :P The blimps will "pop" | |
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·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: blimp broadband Whitespace broadband is almost here to bolster competition between the current monopolies and duopolies we currently have in place. For many rural area users will have access to a second source of broadband. -- TinFoilers UFO Union of America!! TinFoilers UFO Union Local 101... | |
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  BF69
join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| cap done sort of right Ok their caps are really low but at least they offer cap free times unlike TW, Comcast and at&t and they don't charge for overage they just throttle back speed which makes sense if your supposed argument for caps in the first place is bandwidth management.
I wonder when wildblue is going to offer cap free times. Yes WB caps have been a bit more generous than Hughesnet, but not when you factor in 5 cap free hours. Cellular companies should take note of this too. | |
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 |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | Re: cap done sort of right If they really have to cap(ISPs in general), then this is a better way to go. | |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Customers Must Cut Off Useless Providers quote: But because many rural customers lack options, they can't vote with their wallets ...
And therein lays the problem. As long as customers keep paying for crappy, useless service, the company will never have any real incentive to improve service. Not buying a piss-poor, less than useful luxury service is a realistic option that people have to consider when dealing with companies that consistently provide bad service. -- Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty | |
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 |   BF69
join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: Customers Must Cut Off Useless Providers said by pnh102 : quote: But because many rural customers lack options, they can't vote with their wallets ...
And therein lays the problem. As long as customers keep paying for crappy, useless service, the company will never have any real incentive to improve service. Not buying a piss-poor, less than useful luxury service is a realistic option that people have to consider when dealing with companies that consistently provide bad service. sounds easy enough but the internet is becoming more a necessity these days. You suggest people "take one for the team". By the way considering out of 25 million potential customers Hughesnet has less than 500,000 so I believe people are in fact speaking with their wallets. Hughesnet knows it has capacity of MANY MANY more customers but isn't seeing any growth because of caps and it HAS to pay for these satellites it launched so they are in a situation they have no choice but to improve service. 500,000 customers isn't going to be enough to pay for a $250 mil satellite. | |
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 |  |   pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Re: Customers Must Cut Off Useless Providers I guess I am just not on the same planet as these people. I can't, for the life of me, justify spending money on any service that gets me less for the money than I paid for it. I also can't justify spending any money on any product or service that I cannot fully use to my heart's content.
As I've stated earlier, these stories remind me of when AT&T decided to cap the data plan on my phone. My first reaction was to drop the plan. I saw no need to pay good money for something I can't use. -- Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty | |
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 |   Matt Gone playing Dragon Age Origins Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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| said by pnh102 : quote: But because many rural customers lack options, they can't vote with their wallets ...
And therein lays the problem. As long as customers keep paying for crappy, useless service, the company will never have any real incentive to improve service. Not buying a piss-poor, less than useful luxury service is a realistic option that people have to consider when dealing with companies that consistently provide bad service. Believe it or not, a lot of people just think satellite service is the way "internet access" is. Some even think that because it's a satellite, it's inherently more "high tech" than DSL/Cable. I kid you not.
I had a rural co-worker who LOVED his satellite service. I had to beat him over the head to trade it for 3Mbps DSL and then 10Mbps cable. | |
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 |  oscarwilde1
join:2008-10-08
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·HughesNet Satellit..
| said by pnh102 : Not buying a piss-poor, less than useful luxury service is a realistic option that people have to consider when dealing with companies that consistently provide bad service. I run a business here. What am I supposed to do-yell orders to my suppliers? Or take three weeks to do anything with dial up? Without the internet, I'll be back in the swamp living on 'possums. I wish a boycott was an option for me, but I don't like 'possum all that much. | |
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 beaups
join:2003-08-11 Hilliard, OH
| I'm confused They have crappy caps, we know this...users claim there is more bandwidth available but Hughes is being unreasonable. But then at peak times they complain they aren't able to achieve advertised speeds (IE the 610KBPS) which tells me there ISN'T enough bandwidth available. so which is it? | |
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 |   BF69
join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: I'm confused said by beaups :They have crappy caps, we know this...users claim there is more bandwidth available but Hughes is being unreasonable. But then at peak times they complain they aren't able to achieve advertised speeds (IE the 610KBPS) which tells me there ISN'T enough bandwidth available. so which is it? Pretty simple, probably at PEAK times there isn't enough bandwidth. How many people are going to be up at 3 AM? Not many. Also getting people to schedule updates in the middle of the night frees up more bandwidth during peak times. | |
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join:2003-08-11 Hilliard, OH | Re: I'm confused So then it would appear as their FAP/Caps is necessary, right? | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: I'm confused said by beaups :So then it would appear as their FAP/Caps is necessary, right? Yeah so? Doesn't mean there service isn't still inferior to DSL/cable. Once again as long as the have high prices and rediculously low caps there customer base will remain small because many people simple either can't afford it or don't think it's worth it even if it's there only choice for internet other than dial-up. If they launch enough satelites to have enough capacity for higher caps then lower the price that will pay for itself with more customers. At the rate they're going both they and wildblue will be out of business in 10 years. | |
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join:2003-08-11 Hilliard, OH | Re: I'm confused Of course it's inferior, provided you can get DSL or cable. My point is it appears to be necessary give the the technology. | |
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join:2004-09-07 Cadillac, MI | ICK I need a 100' tall tower to get fixed wireless. My cell signal isn't the greatest for EVDO. I'm 40K feet from the CO, so no DSL. I'm 2 miles past cable. Because of that, I only have ISDN. I am not considering moving to satellite one bit, either. | |
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 |  budr Premium join:2007-12-22 Anadarko, OK | Re: ICK All the above here, and no ISDN either. So it's satellite or dialup, period. -- 87W 1290 MHz HN7000s ProPlus .93m | |
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join:2008-07-06 | .......... I would honestly rather have dial up than this garbage... Satellite internet sucks... What a scam... | |
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join:2003-08-11 Hilliard, OH | Re: ICK what other countries are you referring to? and please don't use Japan or any other country that packs 10MM people per square mile... | |
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 hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18 Brunswick, MD | hughes isn't the only sat option wildblue is also available and they have hugely more generous FAP terms. | |
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 |   BF69
join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: hughes isn't the only sat option said by hescominsoon :wildblue is also available and they have hugely more generous FAP terms. I would have agreed before Hughesnet employed this. wildblues caps are still rediclously low. ~17 GB download per month for $90 a month? Even with Hughesnet cheapest tier which has only a 200 MB daily cap factor in the 5 hour cap-free window and you're talking about up to 72 GB a month download potentially. Right now I'd take Hughesnet's $80 tier with it's 425 MB combined DL/UL daily cap( 12750 MB per month ) and 5 hour cap-free window over Wildblue's 17000 MB DL and 5000 MB UL cap for $90. If Wildblue gets a matching cap-free window then of course they would be the choice. | |
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  NickD Premium join:2000-11-17 Princeton Junction, NJ clubs: | Mobile Satellite Internet It would be great if they could sell a mobile version of satellite Internet. Then, they can compete with the 3G carriers, and the 500 MB limit would be generous. It would also work anywhere in the country. | |
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@direcpc.com | When is Cap free for southern California?
Just want to know if there is this change, at what times will this apply to me? I live in the High Desert San Bernadino California, I have a HN7000S -
Thank you for your response;) | |
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