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join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Hey Pass that bill here. I HATE EMAIL FROM ANYONE BUT A PERSON I know. | |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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 ·Embarq
| Re: Hey said by rachelsfx  :Pass that bill here. I HATE EMAIL FROM ANYONE BUT A PERSON I know. Draconion, but it just might work... | |
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Jafo232
You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.
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join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Hey I would not want this for the U.S.. I think it would in a little way stifle creativity. I mean, imagine what could happen to say BBR if someone gets notified of a topic reply and didn't specifically ok it? Or at least, BBR could not prove they did. BBR could be on the hook for it. It would be in BBR's best interest to just disable the feature.
However, I am happy as hell that it is happening in Hong Kong considering how much Spam comes from over there. 
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | Works for me! No room for companies claiming they are not sending spam.
User didn't request it your a spammer. | |
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join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | Re: Works for me! Bingo. | |
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
clubs: | do it. yes, I would expect companies to dislike it but it's a simple solution.
really, this would be one of the simplest ways to eliminate spam. | |
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canreo
join:2005-12-11
The Colony, TX
| Honk Kong citizens can read minds....it's a fact! I guess Hong Kong is full of people who can read other people's minds.
Lets see....I think Chang is going to send me an email, so I better request it first so that it's not considered spam. But wait a minute, doesn't Chang first have to request my request before I can send it? Better phone him instead. | |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Re: Honk Kong citizens can read minds....it's a fact! If it is from Ching Fong Song to Jin Du Ton, it is okay. If it is from a BUSINESS, it isn't. It directly says "solicitations" not personal emails.  | |
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MrsClinton
@ameritech.net | Re: Honk Kong citizens can read minds....it's a fact! Does that include Long Duk Dong? | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | What if that person is an independent contractor? | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Honk Kong citizens can read minds....it's a fact! and what's the purpose of the email.... business or personal? | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
| said by canreo :I guess Hong Kong is full of people who can read other people's minds. Lets see....I think Chang is going to send me an email, so I better request it first so that it's not considered spam. But wait a minute, doesn't Chang first have to request my request before I can send it? Better phone him instead. Or is it just you couldn't read it properly...? | |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | James This is from someone that does not understand the medium (internet). | |
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canreo
join:2005-12-11
The Colony, TX
| A unified Challenge/Response system is the only way to go There needs to be a unified agreement on a challenge/response system. This is the only true way to combat spam, IMHO.
If you send an email to somebody you haven't previously sent an email to, you have enter some sort of challenge code to get through, otherwise the email is rejected. Once you do that once, you are whitelisted and you can send emails any time you want from that one address. Spammers don't have the resources to type in millions of millions of challenge codes. | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| I LIKE! If I order a product from you, you are entitled to send me an e-mail to confirm my order, send me an email to update me on my order, and send me an e-mail to thank me for my order. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED to e-mail me every day to let me know what "deals" I will be getting from ordering from you (ahem drugstore.com!) | |
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join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | Re: I LIKE! I don't know, if you don't common sense one almost does not feel sorry for someone getting spam. 
The root of the problem is stopping bulk emailers itself. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: I LIKE! I agree with Rob. I am tired of sending a contact us piece of email to a company asking a question only to wind up on their list.. and trust me, I look for those hidden "you will be added to our list" so-called options.
HOWEVER, stpo buld emailers itself? No.. I am not for that. If you wnated to do that, you should also stop junk snail-mailers as well and we all know that's not going to happen.
What I WOULD like to see is an email system where email coming through the lines would only get delivered in the email servers is registered and known by some sort of verification system kind of like a secure cert system works.
At leas if we know where they came from, they can be dealt with. Right now, it's WAY to wide open of a system.
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TheMadSwede
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join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI | Re: I LIKE! Don't you mean "medicated shampoo"? | |
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pog
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
·Hawaiian Telcom
| Wow! Nice idea BUT enforcement of this will be uneven in almost the same way DRM technology is..
With DRM, we have average folks suffering disproportionately with DRM-laden goods they've purchased legitimately. Those that know enough to circumvent, circumvent.
With this spam measure, companies that don't hide behind zombified proxies will suffer while the true spammers will continue to spam... beyond the reach of any enforcement.
Still, there are a number of legit companies that seem to think it's a good idea to send weekly newsletters, etc. This needs to stop... or, at least, it needs to be done on the basis of the tried/true double opt-in standard for receiving that newsletter... not simply because a customer once ordered something. Isn't this is small potatoes, though?
I don't know about everyone else's inboxes or spam traps but the volume of inane newsletters/etc sent from companies I do business with is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what spamassassin diverts in the form of offers for cheap viagra, etc.
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| One can wish Wish they had that bill here but of course they don't. Over here they leave the door open half way. I read the article and was amazed how they defend sending people spam.
A prior business realtionship means you can send emails about what the person bought, recalls and warnings. It don't mean you send emails about everything else under the sun. | |
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pog
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
·Hawaiian Telcom
| the best part... a "do call" list the best part of that article was at the bottom, IMO...
And, in a sign the legislation may still need to undergo massive rewriting, the Consumer Council condemned the bill's very staple - a proposal for a territory-wide "do not call" register under which individuals can sign up to request a block on all unsolicited mobile text messages, faxes or pre-recorded phone calls. Instead, council chief executive Pamela Chan Wong-shui said businesses should only be allowed to send messages to citizens who register under a "do call" list. Imagine that... a "do call" list!
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| spam i don't like spam like the rest of us but i think that this is a little too iron fisted. This law will only make everyone more worried and more likely to be criminals. You can't throw everyone in jail. If i have a business contact with someone and i have my associate message them for me or even to just let them know about something about us they may want to know they can be labeled a spammer and a criminal. this will actual harm the free exchange of information along the internet. I don't like spam but this leave a bad taste in my mouth.
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| Taranis
join:2001-12-06
Mount Vernon, WA | Re: spam So fine them instead. No business wants to lose $1 million for sending ads/spam.
I would love to see this get enacted here in the US. Same for the bulk mailers who clog my mailbox with grocery store ads and missing person fliers.... | |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| Re: spam I must say a court appointed fine sounds like a better corporate punishment and deterant than a criminal act. Now controlling other computers not in your pocession (bot nets) gaining access to network not allowed public access with the intent do do harm is bad and could be criminal. Digital trespassing you may say. TO sum it up fines but no criminal act. Also the fine could be prorated of sorts too.
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
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join:2002-12-03
United State
·CenturyLink
| Amen As far as I an concerned, one piece of SPAM is too much because I can remember when the Internet didn't have SPAM. I think HK has the right idea.
But.
But what are they going to do about the phony messages that say you subscribed when you didn't, and the unsubscribe is a redirect to secondary ISP where your address is captured and your computer is infected?
What HK is doing is a step in the right direction.
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