 Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
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| Makes sense For those who can afford it, it's good. The reason this is as expensive as it is is to recoup some of the costs in rollout. Case in point, tell me of any major carrier that has a network this large and with this much bandwidth. Certainly not Cingular or Sprint. In time, and as the competition catches up, it will get cheaper. But for now, it should be considered a premium service only available to those who are willing to pay a premium. | |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | BellSouth to launch 24 megs 2006! About f******* time! | |
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golgoj4
join:2005-10-19
Los Angeles, CA
| Re: BellSouth to launch 24 megs 2006! said by rachelsfx  :About f******* time! The question is...do i WANT anything bellsouth is selling.
Short answer: NO! | |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Re: BellSouth to launch 24 megs 2006! I have Cox Biz....20/2. $89.95. | |
| ajanis
join:2004-10-19
Oswego, IL
| $80.00?! without service, just ask for 59.99! 12 of my co-works (and myself) just asked the sales people in a Verizon store, and were given the service with a 2 year contract @ 59.99. No voice service needed. So if 79.99 is a deal breaker, but 59.99 works...just ask. Was not a hard negotiation either, just asked and it was given. Has been done over the past 30 days in at least 3 different Verizon stores. Never hurts to ask for a discount with cell service from any carrier. If you are a new sub they will do just about anything to get you signed up.
Love the service, really nice to have a fast connection at my finger tips everywhere I go. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| Freedom From Overpriced WiFi? For $60-$80 a month? Huh?
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| | stufried
Premium
join:2003-10-13
 ·Verizon BroadbandA..
| Re: Freedom From Overpriced WiFi? For a Road Warrior, sure. My question is how did the guy who is featured in the story avoid huge charges in Amsterdam. Verizon's International EVDO plan at ($120 a month apx), gives you UMTs roaming in Europe, but I think you are capped at 250 megs in the flat rate. After that you pay overages. 250 megs is the one day limit at his hotel. Therefore, he would have been running overages either way. Verizon also enforces a "reasonable useage" limit that has booted many people off their unlimited plans.
I'd also note that Cingular has recently offered an international data plan. Verizon is not the only one looking at a global perspective. In my mind, the low marks on this go to T-Mobile who has the global infrastructure and doesn't do a darn thing with it. Come on T-Mobile, offer a plan which is "no roaming" on the global T-Mobile network. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
| Re: Freedom From Overpriced WiFi? said by stufried :For a Road Warrior, sure. My question is how did the guy who is featured in the story avoid huge charges in Amsterdam. Well it IS Amsterdam  There are far more, um... recreational... things to do there than just use the Internet LOL.
said by stufried :I'd also note that Cingular has recently offered an international data plan. Verizon is not the only one looking at a global perspective. In my mind, the low marks on this go to T-Mobile who has the global infrastructure and doesn't do a darn thing with it. Come on T-Mobile, offer a plan which is "no roaming" on the global T-Mobile network. My question would be, are we certain T-Mobile has this capability? I don't think they even offer EDGE data service in the USA (I am not sure though) and I haven't seen them do anything here in the way of 3G deployments (it might be different outside of the USA again I do not know). While T-Mobile certainly does have reach in most countries with regards to GSM-based cellular service, they may not have the infrastructure needed to provide data service.
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join:2003-10-13
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| Re: Freedom From Overpriced WiFi? T-Mobile just turned on Edge in the US. Sony Ericsson has a wireless datacard which is both EDGE and UMTs compatible. I own a Motorola c975 which can connect to both the EDGE and UMTs networks. EDGE is clearly not UMTs, but it beats GPRS and is tolerable for e-mailing checking and web surfing. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Freedom From Overpriced WiFi? Ahhhh ok thanks for the clarification.
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asphire23
You Make My Heart Skip A Beat
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join:2002-07-17
Covina, CA | Lag? Does anyone know the latency and real world speed?
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
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| Re: Lag? said by asphire23 :Does anyone know the latency and real world speed? Doesn't matter, it's made for streaming video to your phone not for using as a gaming connection for your computer.
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asphire23
You Make My Heart Skip A Beat
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join:2002-07-17
Covina, CA
| Re: Lag? said by Vamp :said by asphire23 :Does anyone know the latency and real world speed? Doesn't matter, it's made for streaming video to your phone not for using as a gaming connection for your computer. Yes it does, nobody in their right mind would pay $80 for bandwidth just to watch streaming video. It's targeted for on the go laptop users. And I'd like to know if this is feasible for gaming or not.
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Vamp
5c077
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MD | Re: Lag? Oh nevermind, thought the service was mostly made for VCAST.
I doubt the latency would be under 200ms.
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xpkranger
No gnus is good gnus. -Gary Gnu
Premium
join:2000-10-27
Atlanta, GA
clubs: | My IPsec VPN works well with it, so latency probably isn't that bad. Not much of a gamer though anyway.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| They need tiers They need to make a residential tier and a business tier. They could sell residential at 40 a month and the business at 80 a month. Then allow the business tier to be unlimited while restricting the residential tier from unlimited downloading, as the service is right now. Businesses will get the higher priced business service, because 100 bucks will be nothing when compared to having internet access everywhere while they travel and for the business level support. Then much more people will be able to afford the residential tier. | |
| | | seaman
Premium
join:2000-12-08
Seattle, WA
| Re: Verizon EVDO cards said by xpkranger :They also want to manage the 802.11 wireless connection. Don't let it. (Deselect during the install) Just installed one of these for the first time this morning. I was impressed with the card and the clean trouble free wizard install. If you can get this service for 59.99 a month I think I know a ton of business folks that are going to want it. Oh speed- I must have been out of the EVDO area because it was tolerable but slow, maybe 50K. I saw the "manage Wi-Fi" option and didnt deselect it. What is the downside of running with that feature? Thanks | |
| | | alalper
Premium
join:2000-08-20
Philadelphia, PA | Re: Verizon EVDO cards I personally don't see the downside. I am connected in my car (or truck) through EVDO and when I get home and bring the laptop in, it automatically connects to my G wireless network and disconnects from EVDO. | |
| | | | seaman
Premium
join:2000-12-08
Seattle, WA | Re: Verizon EVDO cards Thanks. Thats what I understood it would do. Sounds OK to me. | |
| | DavidR13
join:2004-04-12
West Bloomfield, MI
| I just signed up a month ago for the service. The sales rep told me Verizon only stocks one pcmcia card (the 5740). It sucks! Now I find out they have other, better cards, but they won't let me trade up because I'm beyond the 15 day return period.
Have you had better experience with other cards?
Note to all: live or die by the 15 day return policy!! | |
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xpkranger
No gnus is good gnus. -Gary Gnu
Premium
join:2000-10-27
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
| Re: Verizon EVDO cards I believe you are correct that Verizon only stocks one. Our telecom guy buys them and I usually distribute them. I don't have any extra's in stock so I can't swear to the model number, but 5470 sounds about right.
I don't like the fact that it takes over the wireless (802.11) from an enterprise POV because it takes long enough to train the user with one management technique (Windows) and I'd just as soon let well enough alone.
I guess if it's just a single-user environment, then if you like their management tool, then sure. 
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join:2004-04-12
West Bloomfield, MI | Re: Verizon EVDO cards Although the Verizon store only stocks one card, their website offers 3 or 4.
Have the people in your company commented on the quality of the reception of the 5740?
Again, mine sucked! | |
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RR Conductor
'Boarrrd
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
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| He's staying at the wrong places Overpriced Hotel HotSpots? Where is he staying? Everywhere I stay at here in NorCal, Holiday Inn, Best Western, Holiday Inn Express, etc. has free Wifi and/or free Broadband of some kind. Even many of the smaller or independent motels (ie.Discovery Inn here in the Ukiah area) and chains have it, and in several tiny towns, like Mt.Shasta and Weaverville. EVDO is not available in most of NorCal, it is not available anywhere past Healdsburg(includes my home of Mendocino County) or the Sacramento area.
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| | cmaenginsb
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join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| Re: He's staying at the wrong places RR Conductor try staying at an upscale hotel in San Francisco. Embassy Suites, the Westin, Hyatt and that level of hotel all charge for their WiFi service.
It's funny but as you go upscale in the hotel the more they charge you for free things at other hotels.
They are just now deploying in the Norcal area.
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RR Conductor
'Boarrrd
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
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December 18th, @03:14AM
| Re: He's staying at the wrong places We don't normally stay at those places, too expensive for our blood It's okay, I'm pretty happy with being middle class, it isn't rich, but it's comfortable  Now, that's not saying we have never stayed at one of those "upscale" places, we have, but it's been very, very rare, to me, more than 80 or 90 a night is too much for a regular trip, but SF is overpriced all around anyway. We live 115 miles north of SF by the way, 8 miles north of Ukiah, EVDO stops at Healdsburg in NW CA, and in the rest of CA, once you get north of Sacramento or Lincoln, it stops as well. I do pretty good with EDGE and WiFi here at home and away, so no biggie
I can't believe those other guys charge for something the less expensive places don't, if you pay as much as those places charge they ought to throw it in. | |
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RR Conductor
'Boarrrd
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | Re: He's staying at the wrong places 100 is still too much for me for a normal stay, once in a while, yeah, but not something I would do on a regular basis, mostly because I couldn't afford it | |
| | | | | | LeeD300
join:2003-04-21
Santa Clara, CA
| Re: He's staying at the wrong places Same here!
But when it's on the company, that's another story!
Last week I just returned from Brussels on business. I swear, I thought hotels in Seoul, South Korea or Shanghai where expensive, but they don't touch Brussels. Brussels, and the area around Brussels is FREQUENTLY sold out due to the EU being there, and everybody traveling there on business/politics. On top of that, most of the people that travel there are in politics, and some governement picking up the bill. I've stayed at a Marriot Renesaunse(?) for 199EUR/night (~230USD/night) and that's not the best hotel there.
One time when arriving at my hotel, there was some mistake made my our company travel agent, and I wasn't actually confirmed booked. I didn't learn this until I arrived, and they were sold out. Called ~20 other hotels, all booked, except a Holiday Inn. I just came off a plane, tired, no reservation, I was desparate. Bad thing was, they knew they were one of the last few rooms in the area. They charged 300EUR for one night. And that wasn't even a 3 star Holiday Inn, but your typical 2 star ($35) freeway hotel. Amazing..
Yes, I stayed the night there...
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RR Conductor
'Boarrrd
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | Re: He's staying at the wrong places Lol Hey, when the head guys are footing the bill for an expensive place, I no turnum downum either | |
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