Here Comes The Connected Nation Sales PitchTwo senators insist broadband mapping firm play central role... ( old news - 04:19PM Wednesday Apr 15 2009) tags: legal · competition · coverage · business · bandwidth · Op/Ed · legislation · PoliticsWe've discussed how consumer advocates believe that a group called Connected Nation is little more than a policy and PR front for the nation's largest carriers. The group was crafted under the guise of mapping and promoting broadband availability, but with a board of directors stocked with some of the biggest lobbying names in telecom, critics argue the group's real goal is to actually prevent more substantive reform, deraling more accurate mapping efforts that highlight competitive shortcomings. Another alleged function of the group is to steer taxpayer funds away from smaller competitors, and toward the group's principle incumbent backers. With that in mind, it's not too surprising to see Representative Joe Barton, traditionally one of AT&T's favorite politicians, pushing new legislation that attaches a few strings to broadband stimulus funds. From a report at Govtech: If two congressmen get their way, the awarding of stimulus money for broadband projects would be contingent upon completion of broadband mapping. . . A nonprofit called Connected Nation, widely viewed as having the top broadband mapping expertise in the country, would likely do that mapping for states. Of course arguing that Connected Nation has the "top mapping expertise in the country" may be a stretch, since the organization's maps, under tight control by carriers themselves, don't list available carriers at each address -- and fail to even differentiate between broadband service types (DSL, FTTH, cable). Connected Nation's state non-disclosure agreement declares that all data collected remains the property of AT&T, and can be pulled or deleted at any time. The idea that taxpayer funds could be spent on a mapping operation that's really an AT&T lobbying apparatus in disguise is worrisome, as is the fact this data wouldn't be independently verifiable or owned by the taxpayer. Despite lofty rhetoric from carriers, their best interest remains in portraying a broadband market that's robust, highly competitive and largely without gaps -- given correcting any shortcomings could result in greater competition and reduced revenues. Related:- Verizon's Open Development Initiative? So Far It's A Joke
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | territorial waters I see broadband coverage problems in our territorial waters. | |
|   T1 Rocky
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| Dateline Why doesnt dateline ever do a story on this stuff? Between this and the astroturf campagins there's more than enough great footage of major US corporations with their pants down. And we as American's love to see that stuff. I wish that one of the major networks would do a story on the state of affairs in the broadband world. But I guess noone wants to piss off one of their biggest clients for commercial time.  | |
|  |  patcat88
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| Re: Dateline said by T1 Rocky :Why doesnt dateline ever do a story on this stuff? Dateline might as well be called the Govt Communications Dept. | |
|  brianstretch
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| AT&T thinks that FTTN is adequate, which should automatically disqualify them as being broadband "experts".
Not that I trust the feds to get anything right, but if they're going to go through with national broadband bankrolling they should have Google write up a "best practices" design that anyone, including municipal governments, can use to build out dark FTTH systems that any carrier can lease fibers from. If there's already a FTTH system in place (FiOS) then there's no need for federal taxpayer money to be used to build an alternative. That might be enough of a cluestick to get AT&T in gear and build U-verse correctly, but probably not. | |
|  |   atuarre Here come the drums Premium join:2004-02-14 Lake Charles, LA clubs:  | Re: AT&T thinks that FTTN is adequate, Why should Google write up something? They are as greedy as any of the other companies? I think a neutral entity with no ties to broadband, or search engines, etc, should be used. Google has just as much to gain as the carriers. | |
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join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA | Re: AT&T thinks that FTTN is adequate, Don't mind the fact that Google isn't qualified since to my knowledge they've never deployed FTTH. | |
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| Re: AT&T thinks that FTTN is adequate, said by openbox9 :Don't mind the fact that Google isn't qualified since to my knowledge they've never deployed FTTH. Agree. | |
|  |  |  dynodb Premium,VIP join:2004-04-21 Minneapolis, MN
| A "neutral" entity? What's that?
While providers shouldn't completely own the process, they definitely should be involved as they'd be directly affected and better understand the possibilities and limitations involved. To shut them out of the process completely would be inherently unfair and counterproductive. | |
|  |  |  brianstretch
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| Well, get someone to. Google just sprung to mind because they're smart and they'd benefit from nationwide FTTH deployment but can't build their own, anywhere, without freaking out the incumbent carriers they're dependent on. One of their guys wrote a high-level position paper on how to do it so they've been thinking about the subject.
Then again, just sit down with the municipalities that have already built such networks and work out a best practices document. Make a credible threat to make this happen and watch the incumbents scramble to roll out FTTH first to head off the federal plan. Works in theory. | |
|  |  |  |   atuarre Here come the drums Premium join:2004-02-14 Lake Charles, LA clubs: 
| Re: AT&T thinks that FTTN is adequate, Yes, Yes, someone at Google wrote a paper. Google, again, is a business. Remember the auction, where they had everyone believing they wanted to purchase spectrum, but never did? They have the capital to do so. Google knew exactly what they were doing. Like everyone else, Google serves there own interests. I'd prefer, like I said before, an independent group of people, with nothing to benefit from this, to be involved. People aren't doing what's best for the country, they are doing what's best for their bottom lines. That's the problem here. Everyone in Washington is on the payroll for somebody else.
But as always, I am sure Connected Nation, or some other think tank will be responsible for all this, and it will be BAU in Washington. | |
|  |  |  |  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA
| Re: Link to the Connected Nation Doc file in what format? Yes, Microsoft Word Viewer could not figure out how to open it, asking for a selection of the format. It did not display any useful content, just what appears to be garbage.
OpenOffice can't figure out the format, either, just as with the MS Word Viewer. So, importing to OpenOffice is useless.
WordPad will display the file, but there is no text that is readable except for the name. Somebody messed up when this file was produced. | |
|  |  |   GOLFnSUN Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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| Re: Link to the Connected Nation Doc file in what format? said by rcdailey :Yes, Microsoft Word Viewer could not figure out how to open it, asking for a selection of the format. It did not display any useful content, just what appears to be garbage. OpenOffice can't figure out the format, either, just as with the MS Word Viewer. So, importing to OpenOffice is useless. WordPad will display the file, but there is no text that is readable except for the name. Somebody messed up when this file was produced. After doing some Google searches I found out that AT&T refused to share the data they were collecting with a group OTHER THAN Connected Nation who asked AT&T to collect it for them. That other group was e-NC. e-NC got the info after agreeing not to provide it to others. Makes sense as AT&T was collecting for Connected Nation and NOT for e-NC(a state agency). »www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/0···1611.php -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
|  |  |  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA
| Re: Link to the Connected Nation Doc file in what format? Thanks for that link. What are the chances that we will ever get the kind of statistics that the writer declared were needed? Things don't look promising at the Department of Commerce and the White House overlord of the census, whoever that may be. | |
|  |  |   Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02
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3 edits | Re: Consumer groups; the unions; & public officials on Board too That statement purposely overlooks all the others on the Board of Directors too to make a point. An invalid point. All the other what...pseudo-consumer groups, trade partners and lobbying groups co-opted to pretend this is a consumer-oriented endeavor? Like The "National Consumers League," whose former chair and current board member is Sam Simon of Issue Dynamics, a PR firm paid millions by AT&T and Verizon to distort policy? Their partner page is a who's who list of telecom lobbying firms and their co-opted lobbying friends.
You do know that lobbying experts now use "legitimate" groups to push company agendas under the guise of consumer advocacy, yes? Even the National Association of the Deaf, concerned about getting big cash donations every year from Verizon, acts like a Verizon bullhorn on tech policy and lobbying issues, regardless of whether those positions benefit their constituents.
Americans need to wise up to some of this stuff. Sooner, rather than later. | |
|  SuperWISP
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| Slanted article This article is exceedingly slanted. The "consumer advocates" cited in it -- a DC lobbying group called "Public Knowledge" -- is well known to be heavily supported by GoogleClick, a large and unethical corporation, and to be lobbying for regulation of the Internet in ways that favor that corporation.
What's more, small carriers as well as large ones favor Connected Nation's mapping practices, which avoid the disclosure of proprietary data that could enable anticompetitive practices. | |
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| Re: Slanted article What's more, small carriers as well as large ones favor Connected Nation's mapping practices, which avoid the disclosure of proprietary data that could enable anticompetitive practices.
Don't know what planet you live on but every small carrier I know (I work for one) is not very happy with this. Their practices are very slanted to the big carriers. | |
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| Re: Slanted article While Brett apparently enjoys speaking for all small ISPs nationwide, the small ISPs I've spoken to in Kentucky (where Connected nation boldly proclaims they've almost reached 100% coverage) say Connected Nation in part exists to ensure small carriers don't get state funding. | |
|  radiowebst
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1 edit | Connected Nation is not the only mapping source While Connected Nation seems to be the front runner for mapping (not the best might I add), they certainly aren't the only source of mapping data nor are they the only people who tackled the mapping of broadband. California did a pretty good job »www.calink.ca.gov/taskforcereport/ I've heard NY undertook their own initiative, I know Maine did a lot of work already and I am sure many others have done something similar. Giving stimulus money preference to states that have some sort of mapping is a good idea at least to target the obviously unserved markets. I'm pretty close to having a method to do a nationwide map of cable and DSL and it won't cost $350 million dollars. All with data available in the public domain. | |
|  Sammer
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1 edit | Data must belong to government If this data ends up belonging to AT&T perhaps U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas should be arrested for grand theft of federal funds. Because this is using government funds the data absolutely positively must belong to the government and be available for independent review. Anything else is worthless and simply throwing the stimulus funds away. | |
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