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@cox.net | Yeah right and then hand it all out to the DOJ, tele-marketers, divorce lawyers and whoever else | |
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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join:2002-01-24
Barberton, OH
| Re: Yeah right no thanks privacy isues aside lets say i want to store a legally created vid file of say 300 megs my upload is only 350ishKB. Not fun how about full back up of downloaded installers for the games i play and the legal software i own that is nearly 80+ gigs of installers at 350ish upload that should be realy fun. Sorry ms yahoo google and who ever else comes out with these services it looks like a good idea on the surface untill you do the math then you find its not a feasable idea least not yet. Maybe in a few years when download speeds are mesured in the gig per sec range with uploads in the 100s of megs per sec then try it again and you might have a useable service on your hands.
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join:2005-06-13
Bridgeport, PA | Re: Yeah right Well put.
I try to put my own 6 gb mpeg ts files that are 1920x1080 to my work machine to look at during some down time. It takes such a ridiculous amount of time over 384 that it is absurd to even do it. | |
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| vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
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| said by Anon E Mouse :
and then hand it all out to the DOJ, tele-marketers, divorce lawyers and whoever else
lol..
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs: | haha no thanks, I do not want high definition video of my grandmother, let alone anywhere near microsoft...
nice idea to have an online storage box, but it would be a privacy nightmare. | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs: | Re: haha Are we forgetting Google? They index everything. Your video wouldn't be much safer with Google. | |
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| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| Will Use it I will do it for media files pictures and stuff like that.. nothing sensitive, like tax records...the last take the least of space and I can have it on a usb drive and so on... however... I have over 300 gigs of pictures and family video that I would like to backup someplace else than home.. and have access to it relatively easy. | |
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Will Use it better off with tax records and personal Ident stuff on the USB drive, it can be locked up in a safe or lockbox. removiable media requires a B&E to "hack".
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join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL
| said by chemaupr  : I have over 300 gigs of pictures and family video that I would like to backup someplace else than home.. and have access to it relatively easy. But do you have the upstream to put it there. It might take you months because the ISP's insist we don't need upstream bandwidth. | |
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join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Re: Will Use it I have 2mbps upload... I recently uploaded arround 400mb in kodakgallery in under an hour...
I guess I have better deal than many there.... | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Hollywood, FL
clubs:
| Re: Will Use it said by chemaupr :I have 2mbps upload... I recently uploaded arround 400mb in kodakgallery in under an hour... I guess I have better deal than many there.... Send some of that upload down this way you FIOS whore you... 
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absoluteevel
Kitty is crazy
Premium
join:2002-03-17
Mesa, AZ | Re: haha If you used something like the free TrueCrypt, they would not be able to see the files you were storing on the drive. | |
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meskinct
This space for rent
Premium
join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
clubs:
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| Re-inventing FTP Isn't this just re-inventing FTP? Nice marketing spin though. I'll manage my data. Thank you. | |
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| ricep5
Premium
join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL
 ·Comcast Formerly ..
 ·AT&T CallVantage
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Re-inventing FTP The earlier iterations of these kinds of services were clunky and slow (XDrive comes to mind)
The web based interfaces were not robust and prone to hangs. Most of the early providers are gone today, so there is some questions on the viability of the business model.
Of course Google would ad you to death as you surf your own "drive".
As far as FTP goes, they could simply load an iSCSI based driver on your PC and it would be a drive letter like any other.
I would like to see this get pushed out if for anything, to get providers to boost upload speeds. | |
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@rr.com | storage I will probably use the Gdrive for family pictures and such.Especially after finding out how short the lifespan on recordable optical media can be.I will however be very tempted to encrypt everything. | |
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JoeyDee
Premium
join:2004-07-23
Las Vegas, NV | OneCare Component MS Live OneCare doesn't allow back-up to network drives. (A big mistake IMHO.) This would be a logical (/nopun) place for OneCare's back up regimine to leave stuff.
I could live with that...
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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April 20th, @02:57PM
| Sure, with what upload? Are people really going to upload Granny's HD video conference over 384-768kbps connections? Until upload speeds are faster making use more practical, everyday use of these services won't be commonplace other than for the most essential backup items.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: Sure, with what upload? My very first thought as well... | |
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dadkins
Merry Whatever
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | I do Offsite Backups with 768k upload to a private server! 
Tell me about it!
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Re: Sure, with what upload? Same boat...it sux...come on FIOS! | |
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dadkins
Merry Whatever
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: Sure, with what upload? No offense, but Screw FiOS!
Bring on the symetrical fiber!
15/2 - 30/5 is pathetic!
Where's the 10/10? 24/24? Know what I mean?
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Is it snowing in hell yet? | |
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dadkins
Merry Whatever
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Sure, with what upload? Some lucky individuals here in The Bay Area already have it!
8/8 for $48.50 per month!
24/24 for $94.50 per month!
FiOS has nothing on these connections aside from extreme greed! 
If Verizon was to wake up... people would have 15/15 for $45 per month.
Naw, it'll never happen.
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
| said by oliphant :Is it snowing in hell yet? When my grandma can video conference in HD on a pc, hell will be reporting record sales of lift tickets for the slopes. This will also be the same day the needed upload bandwidth will be available to the average consumer in America. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | My cable connection is 740Mbps downstream, and 128kbps upstream. | |
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join:2004-01-27
NZ | Jesus! No way you can get 740Mbps down, let alone that much down with only 128kbps up..
(740Mbits is 92MB/s..) | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Re: Sure, with what upload? It's called a joke. | |
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join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
| People do this all the time with their iDisk from .Mac. It's only 1GB but still, you can fill that up really easily. Then there's Spymac with their free WEBDAV moutable disk that is also 1GB which I use to back up my stuff. Of course I encrypt it before I upload it.
It's not going to be that hard to move a few GB onto a remote server, especially if you aren't going to move it all at once. | |
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mahermusic
join:2001-07-06
Chesterfield, NJ | Re: Sure, with what upload? I've used .Mac to do this since 2002. I access my iDisk from my work Mac, home Mac, and PowerBook. Super convenient, and never had an issue yet (in 4 years so far).
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| Re: Sure, with what upload? Me 3, but it can get old trying to upload at 768kbps very often. Once in a while isn't a bit deal...start the upload and let it do it's thing, but it seems that they (Google, Microsoft etc) want iDrives to be used very frequently for lots of different tasks which for me anyway would require faster upload speeds than 768kbps to be truely convenient.
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JoeyDee
Premium
join:2004-07-23
Las Vegas, NV
·Comcast
| I did an off site backup service for my last business. The first upload was an overnight affair with my 384Kbs DSL line but then the incremental backups weren't all that bad.
I can't remember the name of the company that offered the service through Intuit/Quickbooks but it was satisfactory in all respects. | |
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Obliteration
Premium
join:2005-09-18
Somewhere
| Keep dreaming.... Unless we start seeing 5Mbps+ upload speeds I doubt I would want to store anything online. Secondly even if I had that much upload I would just go buy myself a couple of 500GB HDs at the store and store all my videos and things in there instead of online. | |
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| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
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April 20th, @03:22PM
| Re: Keep dreaming.... well ... what if your house burn down today... how much of those drive 500GBs drive you will recover.. I do think is a nice concept that will allow the avg joe to have a "disaster recovery" option...
I have been looking for an affordable offsite remote option that will allow me to backup weekly my media and either of this two service will work for me.
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Also, I have 2mbps of upload. Which Is good to upload all this media... I'm not talking about streaming HD... | |
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| zako234
join:2005-12-04
Great Neck, NY | in my area 30/5 fios is only 55 bucks a month, the upload does exsist for some | |
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dadkins
Merry Whatever
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: Keep dreaming.... Some people are lucky enough to have symetrical fiber... why settle for FiOS asymetrical speeds?
Bring on the killer connections!
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Levittown, PA | rapidshare... This is new?
Pr0n users upload bazillions of kilobytes to RS for months now. Will google allow for searching of pr0n? Versus M$ XXX-Live Drive?
Let the traffic begin! | |
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andy_zies
Premium
join:2005-10-22
Camas, WA | ???? Who the heck has a high def video conference with their grandmother??? Who's grandmother even knows what HiDef really is??? Let alone how to videoconference! | |
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| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Re: ???? Lack of vision..... soon many here will have grandkids... and will enjoy those features... in 5 or 10 years... stop thinking about today... | |
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join:2003-09-19
·Time Warner VOIP
| Re: ???? said by chemaupr :Lack of vision..... soon many here will have grandkids... and will enjoy those features... in 5 or 10 years... stop thinking about today... Exactly.
Remember the days when the only people who knew anything about computers were true nerds??
I'm 36 now, been using computers for 20+ years, and some of my friends now say "Hey, I remember when you knew about computers before it was cool." It's true. Now I'm super-cool.
It won't be long before the wiz-kids will have wiz-grandkids.
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL | Re: Access by whom ever. VERY Good point. n'uff said. | |
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KyeU
join:2003-12-31
Canada | ... Google: INFINITE
Microsoft: HUGE
Infinite sounds more enticing. | |
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Vig
Thread-safe since 1997
Premium
join:2004-03-23
San Diego, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: ... They might want to call it "unlimited". That word seems to be able to mean whatever the company using it says it means. Then when they won't/can't deliver, they can just whip out the invisible cap ISP style!
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devicenull
Premium
join:2002-12-01
Clifton, NJ
| Good idea.. I may not use it.. but when it becomes public, people will start wanting more upload speed.
Right now, the majority of people don't have any use for more upload speed.. this would give them that reason.
It's a start.. at least it will hopefully get people asking their ISP's about it.
Personally, anything I uploaded to it would be encrypted.. but that's just me. | |
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boya
@verizon.net | Re: Good idea.. What ever happened to old fashion pen aand paper and a safe box under the floor?? | |
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claudeo
join:2000-02-23
Redmond, WA
| There is technology... There is technology to make this kind of uploading and backup efficient without requiring a lot of bandwidth or storage space. The technology has been used in WAN optimization appliances. See for example »www.f5.com/solutions/technology/···_wp.html Basically, rather than brute force sending all the data, the optimization builds an inventory of data patterns and determines whether some of the data patterns already exist at the destination--in which case they can be reused without actually transmitting all the data. Of course this means that you must install a local application that does this work. But the upload bandwidth required is very small compared to what is required by, say, a ftp upload.
Similarly, on the server end, redundant data patterns don't need to be stored redundantly in the actual data store. Our typical desktop file systems are very inefficient in that regard, but that is a fair trade-off for simplicity, flexibility and performance. | |
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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
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·Charter Pipeline
| perfect use of dedicated server I actually like the idea of online storage.
Since I'm sure any service specializing in this
will want you to have an aplication which no doubt will only be for windows for performing storage and retrieval functions, I can't say I'd use any of those services.
However I did recently purchase a dedicated server, which in part will be used to store content I wish to back up off site.
This content will be stored on a linux server, and I'll use good old FTP to upload/download items to and from the server.
This will allow me to upload content to my storage space without being tied to a given application or operating system.
I can upload data from my windows machine, my linux machine, or a friend's mac in the same way, as it should be.
And should I need to access any of my data from a site that severely restricts what services I can access on the internet, I can set up my web server to allow me access to given directories, and therefore be able to access my content, even on a network where only HTTP is permitted. Now that's the way I like my online storage done.
Now we just have to get the ISP's to increase upload speeds. I have an ADSL line connected at 864KBPS upstream. If ADSL is capable of a max of 1024KBPS upstream, why won't any ISP offer that as a top tier package? And don't get me started on cable. We already know cable is capable of at least 2MBPs upload, yet why aren't more ISP's offering that? Even those that do offer it, why only restrict it to just FIOS markets? Those outside FIOS areas would love to have a decent upload speed too you know.
It makes me sick. Before when a provider would upgrade speeds, everyone had a chance to get it in the providers's coverage area, but now if you want the best package, you have to live near FIOS, or get left out. That's just wrong! | |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | Will we get more than 10 MB per file? That was the stupid thing about Yahoo briefcase. You could pay and get more total storage, but you still only got a low per-file size limit. | |
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tapeloop
Light, sweet triceratops.
Premium
join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
| hurdles to climb Three obstacles I can think of right off the top of my head (some already mentioned):
- Low upstream capability.
- Bandwidth caps.
- Net neutrality. You think BellSouth/AT&T, Qwest or Verizon--who are already clamoring for "two-tier" service--will sit idly by while high-def videos of teleconferences with grandma stream over its cables? 
Good luck Google.
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anon12121
@64.166.x.x | The Difference? Microsoft will allow the government to have access to your files.
Google will fight for your right. | |
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AnImmigrant
join:2001-01-22
Austin, TX |  They should just make a section of Google called G-Unit
Blah.
I don't know anything about rap either....so yeah.
Hook 'Em! | |
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