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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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| Re: Go for it said by KrK  :Choices like these are good things. I agree. I'm curious to see if Google will subsidize it, or if it will be sold for full retail? Will American consumers shell out $499 or $599 for a phone at full price?
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| Re: Go for it I was thinking they will subsidize pretty heavy and make money off some built in ads.
Also wondering what platform they go after. Seems AT&T would be the one to get on since they haven't joined the party.
said by Matt :said by KrK :Choices like these are good things. I agree. I'm curious to see if Google will subsidize it, or if it will be sold for full retail? Will American consumers shell out $499 or $599 for a phone at full price? | |
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Pasadena, TX | There is no reason a phone needs to cost $500. They can surely make and sell the phone for half that.
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CaptainRR
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Blue Rock, OH | Re: Go for it You can buy a cheap laptop and get a wireless card for less than that for internet and do a hole lot more with it! | |
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tiger72
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tmh
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| said by Matt :said by KrK :Choices like these are good things. I agree. I'm curious to see if Google will subsidize it, or if it will be sold for full retail? Will American consumers shell out $499 or $599 for a phone at full price? It doesn't have to be $500 bucks. Dell sells the Nokia E63 for $199. It's a pretty decent. It has 3G, WiFi, camera, email (POP/IMAP), and VOIP (has a built-in SIP client). Oh yes, it also does YouTube and interfaces with Outlook. | |
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nixen
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| Re: Go for it said by KrK :I don't think the phone needs to cost that much. Chances are $250 is probably closer to the mark, Basis? Besides, unlike European phones, this phone would have to have multiple transmission technologies so that it can work with all of the US cell carriers. That's going to add to the manufacturing cost of the device, especially working out how to wire the thing such that each transmission technology is equally configured for optimal connectivity.
said by KrK :and less if Google subsidizes it's retail price. Unless Google is planning to sell a service on top of it, why would they subsidize the price?
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | These $500 phones are ridiculous. You can buy a full PC for that price. | |
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| Re: Go for it said by SLD :These $500 phones are ridiculous. You can buy a full PC for that price. While I agree, you can't carry a PC in your pocket. 
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nixen
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| Re: Go for it said by Gbcue :said by SLD :These $500 phones are ridiculous. You can buy a full PC for that price. eMachines? LOL. The laptop I'm posting from was $350. Granted, it's a sucktacular Toshiba, but proves you can get a "name brand" for under $500.
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | Re: Go for it Yeah, but if it was a lot smaller, it would have the power to drive an Android based phone | |
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| said by Gbcue :That's a $200 paperweight. 1.6GHz? A joke. With Vista it is, as is many things with less than dual core. It would fly with a decent Linux distro installed, though. Even a 1 GHz P3 with 256 MB I still have runs pretty fast for most apps and looks pretty. Android is lighter than a typical Linux distro, which is infinitely lighter than Vista. A phone would fly with less than half those specs on that $200 pc. Think about it. The software a device runs can be just as important as raw power, especially in small devices. | |
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en102
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Valencia, CA | Re: Go for it Hopefully it'll be a GSM/UMTS phone supporting HSPA 850/1900 | |
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| Re: Go for it said by en102 :Hopefully it'll be a GSM/UMTS phone supporting HSPA 850/1900 Please please please make it multiband, especially T-Mobile's oddball 3G band. | |
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Jim Gurd
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Plymouth, MI | I would love to buy a truly open device like that. No need to jailbreak it. | |
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | Yay! [see subject] | |
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX | Explains all their hardware engineer hirings. They've had jobs open for all kinds of EE's for various hardware, SOC's etc.. Can not wait to see it.
However a true European model would see 40-70 carriers, unlike here where we have only 5 major national providers. | |
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Gbcue
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clubs: | A 'TRUE' Google Phone! Finally!
I can't wait!
I wonder if it'll be LTE or WiMax and/or all flavors of 3G! | |
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maartena
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| Am I the only one that gets this "Microsoft" feeling? Soon we'll be using Chrome OS, with Chrome Browser, all using Google search engines, Google Maps (with GPS on our phones), we'll all have GMail accounts, and before you know it Google comes with their own version of an Office Suite....
Are we slowly transfering from "Billgatus of Borg" to "Ericschmitus of Borg" and not realizing it? 
Of course this is mostly sarcasm, as everyone likes their own choices. But Google does prove that we, the consumer, absolutely LOVE! companies that can deliver everything in one package.
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nixen
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| Re: Am I the only one that gets this "Microsoft" feeling? Hard to say. Certainly has the potential to be that way. Then again, Microsoft put a huge dent into IBMs dominance of computing. It's "the way of things". At least with Google, it might be because of innovation rather than simply marketing?
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
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| Hmmm... I'm all for choices, but I don't see what this offers us that isn't already available. I have both an N95 and an N97. Both are unlocked and I can use them with just about any carrier in the U.S. or Europe that uses SIM cards.
What does a Google phone bring to the equation that's not already there? | |
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Raleigh, NC | Re: Hmmm... An open-source OS. | |
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1 edit | Re: Hmmm... Hmmm...Symbian is the OS on 50% of all the phones in the world and is also open source:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS
So I still don't see what a Google phone offers, unless it's less expensive than competing phones. | |
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Raleigh, NC | Re: Hmmm... That article says that the Symbian source code won't be published until next year. Anyway, point taken. | |
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Corehhi
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Bluffton, SC | Nice The main thing I like about Google is they have money and have no trouble going in and shaking something up. Have to say so far they really haven't screwed many except yahoo but I like the unlocked phone idea. | |
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Radioman991
join:2001-09-24
Dayton, OH
| Oh, wonderful. Another industry the Borg has no business in. And when the rest of civilization doesn't do things the "Borg's" way, then they'll all stand around in MTV wringing their collective hands, wondering why.
Stick to what you do well....SEARCH, and ONLINE ADS. Stop trying to build phones, toasters, water hoses.......... | |
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tiger72
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| Re: Oh, wonderful. said by Radioman991 :Another industry the Borg has no business in. And when the rest of civilization doesn't do things the "Borg's" way, then they'll all stand around in MTV wringing their collective hands, wondering why. Stick to what you do well....SEARCH, and ONLINE ADS. Stop trying to build phones, toasters, water hoses.......... Last I checked, they seem to do a LOT well. And Wall Street agrees.
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| Re: Oh, wonderful. said by tiger72 :said by Radioman991 :Another industry the Borg has no business in. And when the rest of civilization doesn't do things the "Borg's" way, then they'll all stand around in MTV wringing their collective hands, wondering why. Stick to what you do well....SEARCH, and ONLINE ADS. Stop trying to build phones, toasters, water hoses.......... Last I checked, they seem to do a LOT well. And Wall Street agrees. Everyone has an opinion.
I was part of a company they bought, and completely screwed up...and they wondered WHY the industry they bought into, wouldn't just "conform" because they are Google.
Said company has since been sold off, and with it, a product the Borg crafted, which is inherently unstable enough to make Vista look like a success.
The company's existing products were put "in jail" (a Borg term) because they weren't "written" in code the Borg prefers. Said products were summarily sunset, for their "brilliant" new product. The legacy products have stability, in 24/7 applications, approaching YEARS. The finely crafted "replacement" is lucky to run a week without a crash. | |
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Cleveland, OH
| Yay Ah I love Google. The only problem though is that the US carriers force you to pay the `subsidized` monthly prices regardless of whether or not you bring your own phone.
It`s an utterly ridiculous practice that should be illegal, and it makes buying your own phone a meaningless expenditure of money. | |
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| Re: Yay The rates do differ on a subsidized phone, I pay half off on the unlimited data plan ($15) for buying an n-series Nokia phone. A completely optional and unrequired feature unlike the subsidized smartphones. I also don't have to renew a 2-year contract on AT&T for doing so. That's at least $360 in savings =) | |
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TGM_Milenko
join:2004-12-17
Bloomsburg, PA | Plan rates And since we'll be bringing our own phone to the party, our monthly rates will be lower since the carrier doesn't have to subsidize the cost of the phone.
Right????? | |
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tiger72
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tiger72
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| Re: Plan rates said by Gbcue :said by j_on_fire :or sign a contract? You already don't have to sign a contract with T-Mobile's FlexPay. Or with EvenMorePlus postpaid, which gives you a discount if you don't get a subsidized phone:
»www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/···er-25th/
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Ioweyou
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| Big fat hairy deal! The way the american market is run is stupid! It's like this... Say I wanted to buy a TV. Okay so I go to the store and there are 200 TV's on display but each one only receives 2 channels. Now I have to decide which channels I want to watch and buy the appropriate TV. If I want to watch other channels then I have to buy a different manufacturer's TV.
Can't Congress see that this is beyond lunacy?
I want to buy the phone I want and then get the plan I want. I think phone manufacturers should just make phones and cell service providers should sell a subscription to use their service. How much more plain and simple could it be?
You know sometimes I wonder who these idiots are that sit in the conference room at the Wednesday afternoon's managers meeting and make up these cockamamie schemes and rules. | |
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| Question I've got an iPhone. Love it. Dislike AT&T immensely. Anyway, here's my question: If I were to buy a "freedom" phone from Google, how would I know which network would have the best signal at my house? I live in kind of a low area with lots of trees around, and AT&T's signal quality sucks big time. But how would I know if Sprint or Verizon or whoever would be any better without actually trying them all? Coverage maps just plain don't give accurate enough coverage info for making a good decision. Do any of these carriers provide a "taster" capability that would allow a person to use their network for a few days to see how it works? If they don't, you're just shooting in the dark when you pick a service provider, hoping that their service will be reliable. What's the best way to pick a service provider for a very specific location??? | |
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