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| Re: Interesting. You took that in the wrong context, they were talking about the bloated OS's that are out today. Google clearly want to get into the Netbook market, which seems to be taking off and is now being subsidized by some carriers like Sprint. Netbooks feature less than adequate hardware to run Vista, 7, or some Linux distros. So its Googles intention to build a barebone OS
that will run on minimal hardware, which alot of the netbooks have.
With that said, I don't know why anyone would fall for the subsidized netbook scam, or why Google thinks this is the route to take on MS. IMO, netbooks are just the next wave of mobile garbage to get consumers locked into 2 year contracts.
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| Re: Interesting. Thats part of my point. Why would the masses buy a netbook for say $350, when they could get a laptop for $450 with good enough hardware to run any app. (except the high end games).
Whats next...the I-netbook from Mac with touchscreen on AT&Ts 3G network....oh oh...I better go patent that idea.
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| Re: Interesting. said by en102  :I was lucky enough recently to purchase a Toshiba (2.16GHz Celeron  ) with 17" screen, 3GB RAM / Vista Home and DVD RW for $399 from Wal-Mart. Haven't seen it again. HP already has a touch screen PC/Laptop. Those have been around for a long time over a yr for certain. I saw one in Costco about a yr ago. | |
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| you never had a netbook huh? they have solid state harddrives, weigh hardly nothing and are small enough to fit anywhere.. noone wants to carry around a bulky and heavy full scale laptop if their just gonna be browsing the web and watching a few movies. Netbooks do run just about any app except for high end games anyway | |
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| said by en102 :Linux bare bone isn't bad, however X11 is a resource pig in its own rights. I disagree with you there. GNOME and KDE are fat bloated pointy-clicky-touchie-feelie-oowie-GUI "desktop environments". Try running Blackbox or Fluxbox instead... look ma... no bloat. I don't run desktops, I run apps. | |
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1 edit | Re: Interesting. Exactly. I would view the subsidized netbook as a 'bonus' when signing up for service. I don't think anyone should signup for service just because of a netbook though.
Too bad they didn't have this deal a few months ago when I signed a 2-year contract with Verizon for mobile internet. Oh well...
More on topic, I think an OS from Google could turn out to be great, or just another thing that no one really knows/cares about. Although it seems like theres a lot of news coverage regarding it.
Make this worth it Google :P | |
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BTW, the Google OS appears to be based on Linux. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS AND, if someone other than Apple can design even a half-friendly user interface for it, it'll spread like wildfire. That's the problem with Linux: most people are not computer savvy or patient enough to jump through all the hoops required to make linux dance like Windows or OS X does.
Can Linux do everything that Windows does? Yes.
Is it a royal pain in the ass to do so? Almost certainly. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS said by mlundin :AND, if someone other than Apple can design even a half-friendly user interface for it, it'll spread like wildfire. There are a few "decent" UIs, the problem is OS compatibility with a lot of mainstream apps that "normal" people want/need to use.said by mlundin :Is it a royal pain in the ass to do so? Almost certainly. Have you used one of the modern Linux distros lately? It's most definitely not difficult to install or use. The various X Window desktop developers have done a relatively decent job of mimicing a lot of Windows features. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS I haven't tried one in a couple of years now. I remember having particular difficulty getting dual monitors to act as a single environment with an nVidia card... just about pulled my hair out. Red Hat, SuSe... didn't matter. General setup was cake, but certain things were just a real pain in the ass... I've got patience, but not enough to write my own drivers when I have an unsupported device. In the end, I always went back to my heavily pirated copy of XP. Every time I installed linux, it just seemed like open source was a small step behind the MS and Macs of the world as far as things just working. I honestly feel like I gave linux an honest shot (more than once)... it just ended up not being worth the trouble to get things to work the way I wanted them to. | |
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| I'm far from impressed when it comes to linux attempting to mimic features of more polished desktop (not server, as that is a different story) OS like Windows (and probably Mac OS, which I haven't used, but those that use it seem to like it). I find the gnome and kde a bit confusing and slow to navigate through, thus back to the much over used commandline to do anything at all. I'm looking for something that is as simple to setup that is just as fast as Windows RDP.
Guess I'm expecting too much (based on all this hype on linux vs Windows) from a bunch of unpaid programmers with questionable background and abilities to create something that rivals Windows. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS I'm not defending Linux distros by any stretch, but there are other simpler and faster Window managers besides Gnome and KDE. I understand developers' tendencies to attempt to mimic MS Windows, but it would've been nice if they had thought out of the box and made something unique, better organized, and more efficient than mimicking MS Windows' UI. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS To be completely honest with everyone I don't see what's so complicated about linux, I learned most of it on Ubuntu, and then went to dabbling with YDL for PS3 and a bit of Slackware...
I think what most people don't get about Linux is that like all new things there's a learning curve, and the only reason its not as polished as Win/OSX is that at first you don't know how to use it.
If you've been at it as your only OS for anywhere from six months to a year, you're golden.
How long did it take you guys to learn windows flawlessly?
Probably as much time as it would take you to run a modern linux flawlessly if you put the elbow grease in it.
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS said by El Quintron :To be completely honest with everyone I don't see what's so complicated about linux, I learned most of it on Ubuntu, and then went to dabbling with YDL for PS3 and a bit of Slackware... I think what most people don't get about Linux is that like all new things there's a learning curve, and the only reason its not as polished as Win/OSX is that at first you don't know how to use it. If you've been at it as your only OS for anywhere from six months to a year, you're golden. How long did it take you guys to learn windows flawlessly? Probably as much time as it would take you to run a modern linux flawlessly if you put the elbow grease in it. All true. But most people who already know Windows don't want to take the time for a new learning curve.
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS said by TKJunkMail :said by El Quintron :To be completely honest with everyone I don't see what's so complicated about linux, I learned most of it on Ubuntu, and then went to dabbling with YDL for PS3 and a bit of Slackware... I think what most people don't get about Linux is that like all new things there's a learning curve, and the only reason its not as polished as Win/OSX is that at first you don't know how to use it. If you've been at it as your only OS for anywhere from six months to a year, you're golden. How long did it take you guys to learn windows flawlessly? Probably as much time as it would take you to run a modern linux flawlessly if you put the elbow grease in it. All true. But most people who already know Windows don't want to take the time for a new learning curve. That is the one thing that Microsoft is counting upon more than any other. | |
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| Agreed. An additional factor besides the learning curve is that a lot of people use MS Windows at work which make them all that much more resistant to change their OS at home. My wife is like that. I've attempted to ween her off of MS Windows a couple of times with Linux and OS X and the recurring comment is "but it doesn't look like my computer at work". That and a couple of application incompatibilities that can be solved with Wine, but that's kind of kludgey solution which doesn't help my credibility in the transition attempt. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS I'll agree with that.
I suspect that I could have a computer 'newbie' (i.e. someone that never used a computer in their life) use a PC, Mac or Linux with a decent Window manager with ease.
I was brought up on Windows OS/2 (gack), and started hacking with Linux distros in College (Slackware 1.0) as they were cheap, fast, reliable and at the time blew Windows 3.x/95 out of the water for cost and performance. I was able to get things on Linux that were never available (or cost a lot) on Windows at the time (ftp/email/web/proxies/irc/printer/file servers).
At one time - in a lab I ran circles around NT for performance (both used same hardware).
Getting back on topic - Linux is good for specific things - VMWare, Servers (cheap Solaris replacement) and light weight OS. Windows OS has already become 'the Borg', assimilating all OS functions and application functions into its core, becoming VERY bloated, and memory dependent (i.e. don't get Vista with less than 3GB of RAM)
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS Diggity! Aint it! Vista is totally tamable. I have no problems making SP1 livable, and even better with SP2.
Windows 7 is definitely coming along nicely. I think most people don't appreciate what an undertaking it is to create an OS of this magnitude!
-Akbar humor aside.... If there was a concentrated effort in the Open Source (Linux) community, I believe they could compete well. The obvious difference is all the paid developers Micro$oft has with mega overtime. I for one am interested in seeing what Google (Skynet Indeed!) produces over Linux. Perhaps a good starting (or jumping off) point for the community! | |
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1 edit | I since I only have 1 Vista Home Premium and it originally came with 1 GB (horrific) on a Compaq AMD 64 3800+ and was horrific. I was able to get a deal on memory and upped it to 3GB.
On Fedora core, 1GB was more than enough.
The laptop came with 3GB
The main differences that I've noticed:
Linux by default = Kernel + a few daemons (sshd, syslogd, etc.) most are 'sleeping' and consuming very little RAM / cpu.
Windows by default has a significant amount of services running, and most 'builds' toss in a whole ton of junk, many consuming a lot of RAM while sleeping. I typically see many svchost.exe processes totalling up to ~200MB, IE consuming over 100MB, and cpu ~8-10%
On a server level, there's no comparison - I've had people wondering if monitoring was broken, as ntload would be all over the map (caching files, AV sweeps, reindexing, etc). The linux box sitting between 99% and 100% idle - of course an ftp server running on a quad Xeon 3.40GHz AS 3 box is WAY overkill
Of course, for DB, I prefer a real box
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1 edit | Re: Open Source Chrome OS said by en102 :Windows by default has a significant amount of services running, and most 'builds' toss in a whole ton of junk, many consuming a lot of RAM while sleeping. I agree that that is a problem. Especially all the extra junk put on a new computer by retail outfits.
And the 1st thing I do with a new system is uninstall all the junk; stop services that are not needed; and modify many default settings for performance reasons. Mostly I blame the retailer for this problem more than I do Microsoft. It is they who could deliver a system built & tuned for performance instead of trying to impress users with all the useless freebies they add on to the system. It is a shame really, because the average user could be sold a Windows system that can fly, instead of one clogged with junk.
Some tuning guides:
»www.microsoft.com/Downloads/deta···ylang=en
»www.pctipsbox.com/speed-up-windo···-tuning/
and there are lots of others.
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS Most people I know uninstall the preloaded crap that comes on laptops...or desktops for that matter. But Vista still had too many processes running for my comfort. Even after I butchered vista, it was still running 60 some processes. Then the switch came real easy for me....I installed a windows update and it put my 4 week old Vista laptop into a shutdown/start up cycle that made it unrecoverable. I switched to 7 and have been running 7 on that laptop ever since. Fully loded with the apps I use, 7 is running with 28-30 processes. Getting rid of Vista was a blessing.
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| Vista can run decently with less than 3 GB of RAM; it depends on what you do with it. The biggest problem with Windows has not been core-bloat (or even code-bloat), but an insistence by users on underpowering their systems for what they do, because they are thinking back two OS generations or more. For the past several iterations of Windows, system memory has been at historic lows (in fact, each current generation of RAM has seen it's price fall below the lowest price of the generation before it!). Generic DDR2-800 is now under $20/GB, and every operating system has grown to use more of that now-cheap system memory (I run a triple-boot system (all 64-bit) of Windows 7, Kubuntu, and OpenSolaris with a Celeron Dual Core and 3 GB of RAM; 3 GB is more RAM than I have ever had in a personal system, yet all three operating systems are quite willing to use every bit of that 3 GB, and I don't do system development). | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS Other than games (MSOffice runs flawlessly under Wine)
I really don't see why anyone would chose any windows if you were starting from scratch.
When Hi-Def became more common and I wanted to upgrade from my iMac G4, I went PC for cost, but I certainly didn't go to windows... I took about three months to become proficient with Ubuntu and then I realized where true computing bliss lay...
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS said by El Quintron :Other than games (MSOffice runs flawlessly under Wine) I really don't see why anyone would chose any windows if you were starting from scratch. ... Two reasons:
1) Software - there is still a huge advantage Windows has in software both in categories & in the number of apps in each category both over Linux & the Mac OS. And a lot of them are free. That lead may be shrinking (its certainly not as big as it once was, especially with all the cross-platform apps coming out), but its still there.
2) Hardware - there's a better chance that I can run a given piece of hardware on XP than on Linux (wireless adapters spring instantly to mind) or on mac OSX. Almost all hardware comes with Windows drivers.
I've used Ubuntu and came close to replacing XP (on my main box) with it, but the lack of a good video editor (I'm using Sony Vegas Studio) held me back. Maybe I could get it to run using Wine, but really, with Windows 7 on pre-order for $50, its easier, more straightforward, and less hassle to shell out the Mr. Grant and not have to worry about ndis wrapping, or getting it to work under Wine. I'll still keep Ubuntu on a secondary box, and will keep trying it out the Live CD, but there are valid reasons for Windows. | |
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| Re: Open Source Chrome OS I can't help you with the video editing apps, because I haven't done video editing since about 2004, but the two most common ubuntu bugs (wireless drivers, audio drivers) were put to rest as of 8.04.
As of this writing on 9.04, we've seen major speed gains and (almost complete) hardware compatibility.
I think again it really boils down to OS comfort, which is the driving factor for windows...
Besides as of April 29, 2009 CNET declared 9.04 as polished as Win, and OS X
»news.cnet.com/ubuntu-9.04-as-sli···ac-os-x/
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| said by en102 : (i.e. don't get Vista with less than 3GB of RAM) I don't particularly like Vista, but that is complete bunk. I had a 2GB Vista machine and it ran well (memory-wise, Vista still being a bit prone to large problems otherwise). Recent one of the RAM chips went out and I'm down to 1GB - no difference in day to day tasks. Slightly slower transitioning out of Age of Empires 3 is the only time the lack of that extra GB seems to show, and even that's very minor. | |
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| said by cornelius785 :I'm far from impressed when it comes to linux attempting to mimic features of more polished desktop (not server, as that is a different story) OS like Windows (and probably Mac OS, which I haven't used, but those that use it seem to like it). I find the gnome and kde a bit confusing and slow to navigate through, thus back to the much over used commandline to do anything at all. I'm looking for something that is as simple to setup that is just as fast as Windows RDP. Guess I'm expecting too much (based on all this hype on linux vs Windows) from a bunch of unpaid programmers with questionable background and abilities to create something that rivals Windows. What a bunch of crud. The truth is most of the core developers of Linux are in fact full time paid professionals. They work for companies like Red Hat, IBM, Intel, Oracle, etc. Very little of the core OS is developed by amateurs. | |
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| said by mlundin :AND, if someone other than Apple can design even a half-friendly user interface for it, it'll spread like wildfire. That's the problem with Linux: most people are not computer savvy or patient enough to jump through all the hoops required to make linux dance like Windows or OS X does. Can Linux do everything that Windows does? Yes. Is it a royal pain in the ass to do so? Almost certainly. Dead on it's about the GUI | |
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| End of an Era? said by stevephl :There is already a mature stable open-source operating system available for free for PC's, called Linux. If you read the article, you'll see it uses the Linux kernel and adds a new windowing system to run the Chrome browser.
I would guess that it's not designed to run arbitrary local applications, like a "normal" OS. Rather it's a purpose-built platform to run the Chrome browser. The browser and the Web is the app platform. Offline/local use is managed by Google Gears.
This is much more like a consumer electronic device than a PC. It puts the PC at the high end of the smartphone food chain.
We may have just seen, on July 8, 2009, the announcement that marks the end of the PC era -- started by IBM with their original IBM PC announcement on August 8, 1981.
By the way this is open source but I would not call it "open". It's not designed to be flexible and changeable by the consumer. This is a feature -- no malware, no crapware. RMS is going to hate it, I guarantee. | |
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More likely, this is the OS that will run in my next refrigerator. | |
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| Re: End of an Era? said by rdmiller :More likely, this is the OS that will run in my next refrigerator. Now that I can see. It may also be an option for scaled down, "not quite dumb" desktops in large corporations as they move more of their processes to web-enabled applications. Think thin-client on steroids. MS Terminal Services exists, but it does have its limitations. | |
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| said by MyDogHsFleas :said by stevephl :There is already a mature stable open-source operating system available for free for PC's, called Linux. If you read the article, you'll see it uses the Linux kernel and adds a new windowing system to run the Chrome browser. I would guess that it's not designed to run arbitrary local applications, like a "normal" OS. Rather it's a purpose-built platform to run the Chrome browser. The browser and the Web is the app platform. Offline/local use is managed by Google Gears. This is much more like a consumer electronic device than a PC. It puts the PC at the high end of the smartphone food chain. We may have just seen, on July 8, 2009, the announcement that marks the end of the PC era -- started by IBM with their original IBM PC announcement on August 8, 1981. By the way this is open source but I would not call it "open". It's not designed to be flexible and changeable by the consumer. This is a feature -- no malware, no crapware. RMS is going to hate it, I guarantee. EXACTLY!
Being a Linux user, and a former Google employee, they already use a form of Ubuntu internally called GooBuntu, and its a choice on company desktops and laptops. This ain't gonna be GooBuntu. All GooBuntu is , is Ubuntu, with security crap set up to live inside the Google Borg.
It's gonna be the Linux kernel, with a different Window manager...and it's not gonna have Open Offiice installed, like the various ...buntu distros. Its gonna rely on Google Docs, and all the other crap they have hanging out on the web.
No IT department in their right mind would deploy a Chrome OS.
If they do to this what they did to radio station automation software, I'll keep my current distro thank you very much. | |
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|  Companies that will work with Google OS
Sundar Pichai said the company is working with a variety of PC and chipmakers, and another software company. Those include Acer, Adobe, Asus, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Qualcomm, and Texas Instruments.
The one that is notably missing is Dell. Dell is the second-largest PC maker in the world (though Acer is close at its heels), but didn't indicate it was actively working with Google on this when contacted earlier today.
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| Regulatory and Privacy Concerns? said by Karl Bode :Tying an OS to their online applications will certainly get the attention of regulators and privacy advocates If it's open source, the regulatory and privacy concerns should be minimal....at least no worse than the attention that Google already already receives on those fronts  | |
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| Re: About time said by GoodDog : This OS will be for low end consumer machines to pimp Google apps and ads. Why in the world would any corp IT departments deploy it? Clearly some don't appreciate the conservative nature of corp IT when it comes to security and manageability. You think it will snap in to domain polices and AD out of the gate? I don't. The net book market has cooled off as consumers are realizing that for another $50 they can get a capable machine with a larger screen. Netbook's max 10 inch screen makes it a struggle to use for more than a few minutes. If people have to lug around a machine in a tote bag, a small laptop and a netbook are the same schlep factor. Why suffer? Nitch market for the Google OS just like linux The 10" screens are great. Some netbooks are too small, but anything with a 10" to 12" wide screen is perfect.
All you need to do is run windows xp and you have a ultraportable work machine.
I run xp, office, and autocad on my netbook.
Windows XP would be much better than google OS or linux unless the software your company uses does not have to be on windows.
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| said by GoodDog : Why in the world would any corp IT departments deploy it? Because how much are corporate clients playing yearly for Microsoft licenses and support plans. It's a huge burden for most companies (especially smaller ones).
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| Re: Ok said by dcurrey :Ok they have a complete OS about ready but still no completed chrome web browser for linux. I'm assuming that chrome for linux will be done by the time the os is out.
Don't forget that chrome basically uses webkit. So it's essentially like running Safari but with different bells and whistles.
I think it's a really great idea, they could literally replace the rendering engine of X in linux and replace it with web rendering and at this point the technology is mature enough to support it.
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| Windows is a set of poorly debugged device drivers This reminds me of Mark Andreessen's remarks that Netscape was going to reduce Windows to a set of poorly debugged device drivers. Ahh! those were the days...
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Orange, CA
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| It's just another Linux distro.... ....with Googles name slapped on it. I doubt it's going to be all that exiting. Might as well stick with your current Linux distro if you are already running it. And if you run Windows, you didn't want Linux in the first place, so you won't want Chrome OS.
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| | jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| Re: It's just another Linux distro.... said by maartena :....with Googles name slapped on it. I doubt it's going to be all that exiting. Might as well stick with your current Linux distro if you are already running it. And if you run Windows, you didn't want Linux in the first place, so you won't want Chrome OS. I run XP on my 2 desktop machines, and Ubuntu 9.04 on my 2 laptops.
The only reason I haven't switched completely is because my husband refuses to give up Windows and MS Office.
Google is out to make a buck, and like any other gazillion dollar corporation- they have no scruples.
I don't want their toolbar, I don't want their browser, and I surely don't want their OS to be poking around in my business and phoning home constantly.
No thanks. I'll stick with Ubuntu. | |
| ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| Will it be accepted? For those who wonder if it will be widely accepted, if it can be easily managed from a central admin station, you damn well better believe it'll be accepted, and I'll be watching it like a hawk. Give me an OS where I can easily manage all the desktops in my organization, and I'm sold. Right now, I'm stuck with a bunch of computers running Vista Home Basic because that's all we could afford. I've created standard accounts for the users and an admin account for me to do maintenance. That's fine, except that all programs don't get updates when admin isn't logged in, but I don't have time to run around all day making sure everyone has their updates. Yes, I know that some of the versions of Vista for businesses handle central management much better, but I simply don't have the budget to upgrade all those machines. As for switching to Linux...I have enough trouble showing users how to do things in Windows. Many are in a bit of shock moving from XP to Vista.
Just give me something that I can manage centrally without breaking the bank, give me something that's not intimidating to the users, and I'm sold. | |
| | voip_user
join:2006-06-14
Middletown, CT | Re: Will it be accepted? Hey !!!!!
Yet another Linux Distro | |
| | | ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| Re: Will it be accepted? said by voip_user :Hey !!!!! Yet another Linux Distro I know it is, but what I'm concerned about is ease of use for users and ease of maintenance for me. The user doesn't need to know it's Linux as long as they don't freak out over it. | |
| | lvlorpheus
join:2008-02-17
Eureka Springs, AR
| "For those who wonder if it will be widely accepted, if it can be easily managed from a central admin station, you damn well better believe it'll be accepted..."
I always love to have more choices but, why would Microsoft just lay down and take this. As soon, if not before, Google comes to market with this I would bet Microsoft will come out with a nice little update that will almost look like a dual boot, and will give users a choice to click on "simple windows" of "full windows" at boot-up. I would think it would be much more comparable with most of the popular apps out there than "Linux based Chrome" program.
That my two cents. I know it's not worth much, but I just don't see Microsoft just sitting back and taking it. | |
| | lvlorpheus
join:2008-02-17
Eureka Springs, AR
1 edit | "For those who wonder if it will be widely accepted, if it can be easily managed from a central admin station, you damn well better believe it'll be accepted..."
I always love to have more choices but, why would Microsoft just lay down and take this. As soon, if not before, Google comes to market with this I would bet Microsoft will come out with a nice little update that will almost look like a dual boot, and will give users a choice to click on "simple windows" or "full windows" at boot-up. I would think it would be much more comparable with most of the popular apps out there than "Linux based Chrome" program.
Sorry for double post. please remove if it can be. | |
| raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| Supportabilty Is where others have failed and (hopefully) Google will succeed. Many corporations would like to move away from Microsoft but cannot because of support contracts. Microsoft supports its software, albeit with a very heavy price tag. Businesses both large and small like the security of being able to call up for software support. User Groups are great (IMO sometimes better) than the paid support, but when something goes wrong (ie financial or IP loss) I would not want to be the CEO on the witness stand.
Windows may be everyone's favorite whipping boy, but it is the one you know. I personally find Linux/BSD distos more secure and realatively easy to use as servers. I still stick with Mac/Windows/Office for client because of need to communicate with others on same platform
The PC was first adopted by the single user, then spread to corporations. In the netbook and smartphone arena, Google OS has potential to be the dominant platform, if it ever gets out of beta. If they can find a way to centrally manage thousands of them (like Active Directory does) Microsoft will have some serious competition on the desktop as well. | |
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Supportabilty said by raye :Is where others have failed and (hopefully) Google will succeed. Many corporations would like to move away from Microsoft but cannot because of support contracts. Microsoft supports its software, albeit with a very heavy price tag. This is true.
The military is replacing most of their Unix and Linux based systems with Windows based ones, albeit a very specially developed version of Windows XP that is supposed to be super-secure.
One of the main reason of doing this: Microsoft is the ONLY company that has the resources to have support engineers (albeit indeed for a big pricetag) on the ground in Iraq, Afhganistan or in the middle of the Pacific Ocean on an aircraft carrier within 24 hours of the call.
Of course the military would have provided the transport anyways, but even the biggest commercial Linux distro that HAS support contracts - Red Hat - does not have highly qualified engineers that can be on-site, GUARANTEED, even if half the world is going to shizzle because of a huge war. Microsoft has, and can pull qualified engineers from virtually any country.
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AnonDOG
@rogers.com | Re: Supportabilty Well, you gotta respect those assets. | |
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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth
clubs:
| .. Google Announces PC Operating System
If by "OS" you mean a Google app layered over Linux...
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Apple Announces Mac Operating System
If by "OS" you mean an Apple app layered over Unix...
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Fixed it for you..
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| | impala
join:2008-03-08
Clemson, SC | Re: .. yeah, apple did that 10 years ago | |
| | sbcretired
join:2006-01-07
Scottville, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| If Linix Distros had better support, and could run many of the "programs" of Windows Uncle Bill Gates would have retired much less wealthy.
Ive tried wine and got a couple things to work, but the Linux stuff is a whole nuther deal to convert to. Fun to play with, but not very user friendly. | |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28
·magicjack.com
| 2014 Everyone has a netbook that runs the Google Chrome OS which connects to the Google Cloud over free, ad-supported white-spaces broadband and does little more than run the Google Chrome browser to enable all of the Google apps, which is all that anyone needs 99% of the time.
Meh. | |
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Ioweyou
@comcast.net
| Google Shmoogle.... So what! There have been numerous release of Linux for PC'a and they have all failed. Why? No Support! If Google wants to take over the universe they need to do what Microsoft did. Call EVERY device manufacturer on the planet and hev then develope a driver so when the operating system is loaded onto a PC it will pick up the USB ports, the video card, the parallel port, the serial port, a firewire card, your printer, your mouse and keyboard, etc, etc, etc.... Then software companies will have to get on board and make a program like Photoshop work on it and video capture software will need to be developed. How about .DOC and .XLS software for Microsoft Office compatibility.
You can already see this will take Google years, and Microsoft already has the inside track.
This new operating system is going nowhere! | |
| | chimera
join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC
| Re: Google Shmoogle.... So what! ...and it should be noted that doing this leads to just the kind of bloat that these vendors want to avoid. Now it is possible to save space if you push most of your drivers to the cloud so they can be downloaded real time and only keep your generic ones stored locally, but you need to make damned sure that these generic drivers work 110% of the time otherwise you will hear about it nonstop. | |
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