  Tomek Premium join:2002-01-30 Brooklyn, NY | Nice Since everybody loves football in Europe, it will spread faster than Anna Kournikova. But 4%? That damn a lot. -- Semper Fidelis | |
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| Re: Nice Well, it's clear that many users in the US still fall for emails that read "Your password" or "Your mail was rejected" and click on the attachment. Especially when there's also a message in some of them that read "No virus was found". -- SMTP: Spam and Malware Transfer Protocol. Also used on rare occasion to transmit e-mail messages. | |
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join:2000-09-16 West Boylston, MA | No viruses around here. The only activity I have seen is from my firewall stating the there was a sober variant attacking or something but no attachments on any work or home e-mail of friends, family or coworkers. | |
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  Jim Gurd Premium join:2000-07-08 Plymouth, MI | Terminology Maybe I'm confused but don't worms spread by themselves? If you have to click on a file and open it then that's not a worm but a virus (spread by social engineering).
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 |  ossito16
join:2004-07-31 Whiting, IN | Re: Terminology to add on a question, is zip file basically a trojan horse. don't u have to click on file after it has been unzipped. | |
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 |  kpatz MY HEAD A SPLODE Premium join:2003-06-13 Manchester, NH
1 edit | It depends on how you define terms like "worm," "virus" and "trojan".
If you assume that a worm spreads itself and a virus has to be launched in order to spread, then Sober could be considered a virus.
However, the classic definition of a virus is code that spreads by infecting other code, e.g. executables, documents, or the boot sectors on floppy and hard disks, and is propagated via the sharing of infected files or disks. Worms on the other hand don't infect other executables, instead they proactively spread themselves over a network (which can including mass emailing). So by that definition, Sober is a worm.
A Trojan Horse, by its classic definition, is a program that does something malicious while claiming to be innocent. A classic Trojan would be one that claims to be a cool game or screensaver but it does bad things when you run it. By that definition, pretty much any email worm can be considered a Trojan as well, but by definition Trojans don't spread on their own. -- SMTP: Spam and Malware Transfer Protocol. Also used on rare occasion to transmit e-mail messages. | |
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| Re: Hmmmmmmmmmm You could take a file virus.exe and zip it up as virus.zip, email it as an attachment in a message that says "VIRUS ATTACHED, DO NOT OPEN!" to everyone you know and someone will still open it.  -- SMTP: Spam and Malware Transfer Protocol. Also used on rare occasion to transmit e-mail messages. | |
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL | Love the Title! Just love the title! | |
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| Annoying, but not fatal I've received 4 "sobers" in the last couple of days, all caught by NAV. A couple of them were in PIF attachments - sheesh, pretty easy to catch. 
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| Re: Annoying, but not fatal I have recieved about 75 of them from my work's email, avg didn't catch it while it was zipped, but as soon an I tried dropping it on the desktop to inspect it further it dissapeared. (yes I like to tinker with things, and I pulled my computer off my network to check out the virus) | |
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@cox.net | Bill Gates wants this Stop running windows!
F*cking idiots! | |
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