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@sonyericsson.com
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| But you don't want one I don't know about the Kyocera, but the Sony Ericsson product was outsourced and is very unreliable  | |
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Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY | I paid $5 from T-Mobile and got 56k speeds. $80 is a bit too much in my opinion, unless your business needs require it.
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richowens
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join:2002-08-18
Oregon City, OR
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Re: But you don't want one said by Tomek :I paid $5 from T-Mobile and got 56k speeds. How did you get the $5 plan from T-Mobile? I thought it was $20, and you had to use the SIM card from you phone in the adapter?
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY | Re: But you don't want one you simply used your cellphone as an GPRS modem | |
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richowens
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Oregon City, OR | Re: But you don't want one Ok, I see where your going, but I never am able to get 56K with my phone connected via USB. The best that I get is 9600 bps. | |
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY
 ·Packet8
| Re: But you don't want one Because it all depends on your phone (modem speed) and connection. Maybe you have limited USB connection or simply your cell is set at that speed. Older Sony Ericson also don't give full 56k speed. My V600 does.
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WhoMe
@sonyericsson.com
thumbs down from:
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| Connecting at 9600 is a Circuit Switched Data connection, not GPRS/EDGE. Typically if you connect with ATD and a normal phone number you will get a CSD call. You connect to GPRS with the command "ATD*99***1#", where the "1" refers to the CGDCONT table entry that defines your network GPRS service (different for each different cell carrier) | |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
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| said by richowens :Ok, I see where your going, but I never am able to get 56K with my phone connected via USB. The best that I get is 9600 bps. You need to use GPRS, not dial into your ISP.
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Pricing kills it When you're paying per-minute, you can forget about an always-on connection. And there simply isn't enough spectrum available to make a flat rate plan viable. | |
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO | sounds like... ...another reason for me to want to beat the guy in the car next to me. | |
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loserhead
3 Billion Chinese People Can Be Wrong
join:2004-01-01
Ellijay, GA
| Re: sounds like... said by footballdude :...another reason for me to want to beat the guy in the car next to me. indeed! | |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA
 ·Comcast
| At what cost? Currently I am paying $8/month for 1 MB data access (GPRS) to my AT&T Wireless phone. I've used it as a Bluetooth modem to connect my Pocket PC, but after downloading about two ads I go over the limit and then I think it is 2c per kB. It is also consistently slower than dial-up modem and while roaming (driving around) access is unreliable.
Considering the ubiquitous open (and free) Wi-Fi access points it appears unlikely these services will ever be cost-effective. | |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
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| I doubt it. Cell phones just don't have good reception. Let's see 3mbps DSL or uncertain wireless speeds. I think I'll stick with the DSL. Cell phones are just too unpredictable and I'm not sure if I'd depend on my cell phone for internet. It might be nice while traveling if you get a hotel that does not have broadband yet.
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keason
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Ann Arbor, MI
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Flat rate pricing is avalable About $80 per month for a dynamic connection, similar to a 300/128 DSL connection with higher latency (200ms average vs 60-80ms for DSL)
Fairly reasonable if you travel or can't get DSL or cable (Lots of pockets in urban areas have this problem). Cheaper than ISDN dialup. Great for temporary areas (construction sites, etc)
Would I pay $80 for a GPRS or 1xRTT connection with low bandwidth and awful latency? Only as a last resort.
Would I pay $80 for a connection where I could drop my DSL / phone line ($50 / mo together) and not have to look around for a hotspot or an open wifi signal and not have to pay $10-15 in hotels + airports? That sounds much more appealing.
I think companies that reimburse their employees for internet service will be the first to jump on this. | |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX
| Eventually... When standards get tighter and prices go lower, 200 k - 500 k will seem appealing to the average user for $20 / month. Lets face it - the only people who actaully need/want more than that are those on these forums.
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hovno2002
join:2002-04-30
Hackensack, NJ
1 edit | Verizon Flat Rate Data I have had this plan for several months now (@ $80.00/mo), and it works great. Speeds are typically 500kbps, and in some places over 800 kbps. I travel quite a bit, so it is worth the money. No hassles trying to find WiFi spot, then paying a fortune to use it. Not for everyone, but it works great so far. | |
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Wildcards2000
@washdctt.d
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| Almost there The saying goes, "It's almost there" is so true here. Take the 300k-500k, divide it in half, then subtract 100k from it and that will be your real world speeds.
The idea is nice and the technology is maturing, but we're not there yet for cells to compete with cable and DSL. Let forget price at this point. We all know it's expensive.
We have a couple air cards. They're nice if you are on the road and at the airport waiting for a flight, and you need Internet access right now. But finding at times the signal doesn't come through evenly all the time. I could be 150k-200k then drop down to 40k and I haven't moved.
Try explaining that to your CEO when he's at the beach and can't get a go signal. I tell him to jump in the car and drive down route 1 until you get a good signal. That my biggest complaint. | |
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| I get so tired... of people bitching at me because I can't hear them on a crappy cell phone connection. It is always the same thing; Well you GD, SOB. A$$hole, I paid bla-bla for this phone and I am paying bla-bla per month *&!##! you. I tell them you can pay thought the nose for a fancy cell phone to look at your phone porn but if the signal path to the cell site sucks so will you, from then on it is total excrement deleted.:) I wish these wireless phone providers would concentrate on getting a good phone signal before they started adding crappy ding-dong services.
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owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Bentonville, AR
| Just more rhetoric A much to do about nothing if you ask me. Their prices just put them out of the ball game as far as Cable and DSL are concerned, and you can't really compare them anyway.
Cell prices have remained pretty much unchanged since the advent of PCS in 1998. The infrastructure is in place, the inherent cost of technology has fallen through the floor, yet we pay the same basic $.10/minute premium we did 7 years ago.
Mobile providers need to get their prices down. If they could compete with pots, an unlimited usage line for $14 a month plus options, and maybe unlimited 1.5/256 "DSL like" service at $20 a month, the major telcos/ISP's would disappear. Even if it cost a little more, the mobility factor would be great. But come on, they hose you so bad with their rates.
IF they could get more reasonable, you would see more and more drop land lines completely, VOIP would have been like a bad dream, and we would all be connected to each other and the internet, anywhere, 24/7, and still have enough money left over at the end of the month for a big mac and fries.
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join:2004-08-09
North Little Rock, AR | Re: Just more rhetoric too bad they are making a fortune on ripping us off. they will never change if people keep paying | |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Getting Phone Calls Through Your Cell Phone "Now all that remains is for cellular service carriers to provide reliable, clear calls using these new products and technologies"
Now THAT would be a news story.
The wireless phone industry has managed to push call quality so far down the feature list that it's not even on the list anymore. Convergence my ass. Just another way to milk the masses with substandard service.
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join:2004-06-07
Rigby, ID
| Getting Phone Calls Through Your Cell Phone I dont know what you're complaining about.
I have Verizon Wireless for my cell provider on the National plan and have used it all up and down the West with nary a dropped call except in Wyoming but I expected that.
Call quality DOES sometimes static out for a second but quickly picks up the signal.
And on those occasions I cant get Verizon's signal, I can always roam on the Extended network on U.s cellular or Sprint if I have too
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Getting Phone Calls Through Your Cell Phone Come to Chicago or any market with some people in it. If the 1/4 second delay doesn't drive you nuts, the distortion and quantizing noise will. | |
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join:2004-06-07
Rigby, ID
| Getting Phone Calls Through Your Cell Phone I have been down in Salt Lake City and also over in las vegas
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
1 edit | If you are in a service area like Wyoming you are better off with a analog phone. A digital phone is either in or nothing. At least an analog phone will get through at extreme range with a scratchy signal. This is important if you are calling for help out in the middle of no-where.
one thing you can do is this:
»www.cell-phone-accessories.com/c···and.html
This is a 3 watt booster, at 800 Mhz this would be line of sight so if you where on a mountain top with a good antenna, and a clear path, you could hit a cell site over 90 miles away, with a directional antenna 100 miles plus.
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
Premium
join:2001-05-25
Limbo | Re: Getting Phone Calls Through Your Cell Phone And if you take your 10 element Yagi array with you, I bet you could hit 200 miles. . .;)
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@199.72.x.x
thumbs down from:
Andrew J
| cellular broadband As one who rarely uses his cell phone for its intended use (talking on the damn phone) except on the weekend, I would like to see broadband speeds through wireless handsets.
In its current form it is not and will not be able to compete with cable, but watch, in about the next few years, cellular broadband WILL be an alternative, and a rather good one.
I personally use the hell out of my unlimited GRPS, and will soon pick up a smartphone for the purposes of multimedia ( audio streaming ). True, it would be nice if they nail down the voice quality first, but these companies need to introduce technology that appeals to more than the "bread and butter" voice only users that are currently holding some technologies back. | |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Is this even needed? I have a cellphone, and it's fine as it is.  | |
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@tmodns.net
| t-mobile data i have been using the t-mobile data service for several months. works ok. setup took three days of help calls.
typical speeds around 22k, though they claim "up to" 56 k.
Price is $20. for unlimited, added to the voice plan. The phone is a sony-ericsson (s-e)t610, and the connection to the computer is via usb port and special s-e $50. usb cable. There are two included cds required, one for the usb cable and one for the phone. i had also used several motorola phones that had a direct usb cable, they worked ok too, same 22k speed, but the motorola software always disconnected me after 5 minutes of online non-use.
Both the s-e and mot phones would ring and show and allow an incoming voice call while connected.
T-mobile also has a $39. plan for unlimited data only, without a voice plan. But they let you make/receive voice calls on a per-call $ basis. Requires another phone with its own # and sim card.
So far i haven't seen t-mobile offer the edge speeds around 300k, nor higher, unless you get the special PCMCIA card.
For Cingular and ATT etc unlimited, read the rate schedule carefully. For the $80. plan you get unlimited BROWSING, NOT unlimited downloads. They have limits on the downloads, and they charge for overages. | |
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I Vant Blud
join:2002-01-02
Denville, NJ
| You probably won't see much for now The chance of Cellular based mediums to even compete with DSL, Cable or other landline forms of broadband died at, least for half a decade maybe, when Nextel dumped FLASH-OFDM. The fact is cellular companies simply do not want to directly compete with other broadband solutions. They are not correctly packaged to deal with broadband nor any forms of going onto the internet for that matter, except for maybe Verizon's unlimited data transfer package for cell phones. But I am not sure if that applies to EVDO-3G and it is way too expensive to even justify its barely IDSN like speeds, in fact you say it is priced about the same as ISDN. Perhaps if VOIP catches on more with IDT getting their POT styled VOIP through Wi-Fi receivers out of trials with maybe Vonage or AT&T joining in we will not see many more WiFi cell phones. | |
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