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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | Oh my What a little competition will do...
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Jacksonville, FL | Re: Yeah, but... Took his comment a little personally, eh? | |
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oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| Re: Oh my said by mocycler  :
said by oliphant5 :
What a little competition will do...
What competition? Anyone can undercut the "competition" when they're a government-owned and operated enterprise
You so there are no private schools, no private security companies, and UPS, Fedex and Airborne fell off the earth recently?
Please. There are plenty of private firms in DIRECT competition with the government. This is about private firms providing SUCH crap service that the consumers are revolting.
As for you leaving, no one cares but the rest of the readers will see just what nonsense your post was.
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SweetBabyCakes
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| I hope Dalton fiber is available in my area! I can't wait to ditch Charter. The continue to mess something up no matter what it involves. I've only gotten one bill from them, yet they have managed to mess it up twice. They need competition so they will improve their customer relations. | |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | FTTH yes, BPL no. And this folks, is why we do not need BPL. | |
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jplove71
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join:2001-03-16
Colorado Springs, CO
| Re: FTTH yes, BPL no. said by Eat Me :
And this folks, is why we do not need BPL.
What's wrong with BPL? I see it as another option that muni's can use in cooperation with the power companies.
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jplove71
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join:2001-03-16
Colorado Springs, CO | Re: FTTH yes, BPL no. BPL is not bad. They just need to switch frequencies.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: FTTH yes, BPL no. even the purest fiber needs repeating at 50 to 70 miles and needs to be patched at points with a speed shifting fiber and this costs lots of money. how ever i do agree this is the best solution for the last mile.
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zabes63
join:2003-04-05
Batavia, IL
| Hey either one is fine with me. Anything that will kill the duopoly/monopoly stranglehold that SBC/Comcast holds on my community. Although I think that fiber's capacity for will allow it to remain the relevant media far longer than any copper.
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| | | alfnoid
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join:2002-02-18
| 4Mb is one thing when you have one subscriber, but what will happen when you get the whole town online?
Also if you look at Dalton on a map you will see it is pretty small. So this works for them.
Not likely however that many people reading this now will see a connection like this in their own home for years and years (did I say years?) unless you have a lot of money and move to one of the few developments in the country where FTTH is reality.
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join:2003-08-29
Eton, GA
| Re: FTTH yes, BPL no. Please remember we are talking LIGHT PULSES, Fiber Optics. Cable services can bog down quite a bit, fiber optics has room to spare. Only 30 users can be hooked to one interface from the user ONT.
Once onto the Lines back to the "plant" there is a significant amount of Bandwidth that would be still available even if they all hit Microcrap for a EXPLODER download at once.
So what will happen? Nothing or Next to nothing. Most of the customers are choosing 1.5 Mb anyway. | |
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join:2002-02-18
| Re: FTTH yes, BPL no. I am quite aware of how fiber works. This is not what I was referring to.
What I am referring to is the pipe (to the net) that the city is reselling. What do they have for capacity if the person who put this together is getting 4Mb when they are the only one online?
Anyway I don't need to debate the unknowns of a small GA town.
I think it is great that more and more places are rolling their own and I hope I can find someplace to live that will give me a fiber connection someday soon. Not likely, but hey... I can hope.
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| bobmanh2o
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join:2002-11-23
Sharon, SC | And this folks will never happen in my area..... | |
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| kb2seo
join:2003-08-29
Eton, GA
| If you care at all for the thousands of Amateur Radio Operators that freely provide Emergency Communications, Disaster assistance and Even radio Grams around the world for our Military, You'll Jump on board to say NO WAY to BPL. And by the way, If you like AM radio Service,It will be gone too. This garbage will affect Low VHF for Police Fire first aid, CB radio, Older Cordless Phones, Baby Monitors, It could even affect some garage door openers. We Hams have enough problems with bad cable RF leaks on the VHF spectrum thanks to Charter's Crummy Cable 145.000-146.900 is a mess . I can't tell you how many complaint go un-answered or they simply deny the charges. Go to the Intersection of 286 and 225 in Murray County GA and Hear the damage being done if you have the equipment!
BPL will cause much worse Noise problems than you can imagine. And the Power Company will LIE through their collective teeth otherwise. Please, If you would like the real Information on BPL go to »www.arrl.org/news/bandthreat/
This is Real engineers doing the Real Research with the REAL results. we cannot allow BPL on any frequencies, It is not shielded, it is not proven to do anything but RADIATE and as bad as the Power lines produce un-wanted noise already, who would want this added crap?
Besides, can you imagine calling GA.Power or North Georgia electric for help????? I can't get them to fix the lines near my house when it rains!
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| I EXPECT this. said by Article:
What's more, service issues (of the run of the mill variety) that aren't corrected by the next business day after being reported would qualify a customer to get one free day of service.
This really shouldn't be such a far fetched idea. If it doesn't work for a day, you don't pay for that day. You didn't receive the service, so you don't pay for it. I still don't understand why this isn't a more widespread concept.
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Zorglub
join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA
| This is really sad Here in America, the country where capitalism supposedly flourishes, we need local cities to provide broadband (a real socialist behavior) for things to move forward.
I'm sorry, but something is fundamentally flawed with the system when we need the local government to step in and provide competition.
I say: let's do line sharing with all lines and cables, and maybe we'll see some real competition going. | |
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purplejello
join:2001-08-23
Reno, NV
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| Re: This is really sad Your post is entirely innacurate.
Regarding the first paragraph: One might say, as you have said, that municipal broadband is 'socialist'. However, the city still charges for this service. No, they don't include this service with your taxes - you pay extra for it. Approximately $30 per month, it appears.
Regarding the second: And nothing is fundamentally flawed with the system when you need local government to step in and provide competition. That's a sign of the flourishing capitalism. The corporations minimize competition and avoid engaging in price wars in order to keep their profits high. Thus, they are territorial and don't often 'invade'.
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| Re: This is really sad Don't confuse the self-interest of particular businesses with a flourishing capitalist market. Just because you have a flourishing business, it doesn't follow that you have a flourishing market. The self-interest of a particular company might be served by the destruction of competition, but capitalist markets and the mechanisms by which supply, demand and price play out are not served.
Profit is the motivator in capital markets, not the purpose of markets and the ideal outcome of a capitalist market is NOT to have a single business maximizing its profit. It doesn't follow that ideal capitalist markets seek to maximize the profit of any particular company. In fact optimal capitalist markets are not about maximization of profit.
There are multiple interests hashing themselves out in a market. To do away with the interests of all but one producing company is to obliterate the very notion of a market. | |
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IronChefMoto
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join:2001-02-08
Alpharetta, GA
| Dalton FTTH? Well I'll be damned! Holy hell -- I thought the only thing that Dalton had going for it was a big ol' carpet outlet and a "premium" outlet mall where the locals go to buy Gucci and BOSE. Damn. Maybe I should move up GA400 and find me a nice 1 acre plot and some FTTH in Dalton. 
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join:2002-05-25
Dallas, GA
| Re: Dalton FTTH? Well I'll be damned! Dalton is up I-75 nearer to Chattanooga than Atlanta, and nowhere near 400 Its a very small town and very famous around Georgia for their Carpet. 
If growth in my area can be any indication, in the next 15 years Dalton could very well be the next "Super Suburbs" area for Atlanta. Land is developing at a break neck speed around here. | |
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IronChefMoto
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join:2001-02-08
Alpharetta, GA
| Doh! Evidence of my North Carolina edu-ma-cation has been presented for all to see and with which to humiliate me. My mistake.
The Vice President is still Condaleeza Rice, though, right?
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Kilkenny Kid
join:2003-05-14
Savannah, GA
|  Munis - Competitor or Regulator?
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| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| it's called competition not regulation.. each side gives thier best efforts who ever has more customers comes out on top. simple great plan.
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Ben67
join:2000-07-08
Monroe, GA
|  I got the Muni monoply here
Not complaining though 'cause when you have a request or problem it's fixed real quick and cable tv is $29.50 for 70 channel basic(all I need) and cable modem $40 for 1.5meg down/400-500k up. The speed varies I get down speeds from 2400k during off times to as low as 500k during heavy times(around 8pm)
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oolrocks
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join:2003-08-29
Eton, GA | Re: I got the Muni monoply here Wow! You moved from Dalton to NJ, I moved from NJ to the Dalton area!
Now were both being insulted by our neighbors | |
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