 RDC17
join:2011-05-15
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1 edit | Minorities love this deal! Who wants to see a combined AT&T - T-Mobile? So far hispanics, cattle ranchers, and the gays do! Its just a matter of time until the NAACP slaps their seal of approval on this one..... | |
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 |  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: The minorities love this deal! said by RDC17:Who wants to see a combined AT&T - T-Mobile? So far hispanics, cattle ranchers, and the gays do! Its just a matter of time until the NAACP slaps their seal of approval on this one..... Apparently "the gays" don't want to see that. | |
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| ackman
join:2000-10-04
Atlanta, GA | Yours was a pretty ignorant, hateful, and demeaning remark that added nothing to the context of the article. Well done. | |
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| | RDC17
join:2011-05-15
Baltimore, MD | Re: The minorities love this deal! Huh?
It's a DSLR fact that hispanic cultural groups, cattle rancher associations, and now GLAAD have either said they are or wanted to say they are in favor of the deal, probably in exchange for a nice monetary gift from AT&T.
AT&T knows how to play their cards. If the government strikes down the deal, they can say that the government is against minority interests. That will surely rustle some feathers!
Sorry I'm not as politically correct as you are, but I'm not wearing a white robe and hat. | |
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| | rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | I think you drew conclusions that aren't there. I see the OP edited the post so perhaps I didn't see what you did. Based on the current, edited post, how is it hateful to lump Hispanics, cattle ranchers and gays together with the NAACP in the context of being pro merger? The reply is in context to an article that claims many groups are supporting causes that have no connection to the real reason they exist. Considering the typical interest these groups represent, the OP is drawing attention, with sarcasm, that these groups alone seem to support AT&T's position and how that means there is probably very little real support. Not because these groups are irrelevant but because it's pretty far-fetched to believe these groups support something that's so drastically disconnected from their core causes. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: The minorities love this deal! They are lumped together because they've accepted monetary compensation in exchange for publicly voicing pro-AT&T views.
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: The minorities love this deal! Is that really the issue? If these groups have genuine reasons to support the merger, having AT&T pay them to be vocal and even motivate their base is not a disservice to their members nor does it have any ethical implications. Although it might be hard to defend, there's nothing improper.
In my opinion, the real connection is the suspension of incredulity required to accept that they have genuine reasons to support the merger. Sans the Cattle Ranchers, these groups are typically pro regulation and watchdog large corporations for rights violations. They generally oppose large mergers because of lost jobs that they believe might unfairly target their base.
Regarding Cattle Ranchers, they usually own lots of ground and a portion of their members may actually profit from leasing ground to cell towers. The consolidation of the two companies will likely negatively affect these leases. At best, this is an extremely weak connection but it's a con, not a pro. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: The minorities love this deal! Really?
If a company pays an auditor to cook the books, that's ethical?
The emphasis is that these pro-merger organizations are not QUALIFIED to make any vocal or motivational claims.
There's a reason you cannot give legal advice without licensure... | |
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| | | said by RDC17:Who wants to see a combined AT&T - T-Mobile? So far hispanics, cattle ranchers, and the gays do! Its just a matter of time until the NAACP slaps their seal of approval on this one.....
O heck ya we (cattle ranchers) down here in texas want to see the merger!!!!!, NOT!!!, for one i live in texas and ive been here for my whole life, all i can say is im pissed.., AT&T covers texas like no other, got great coverage, and for them to say that they need T-mobile to finish thats complete bull | |
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| | | Huh? Where are you getting this? I don't see anything in the article that talks about whether or not anyone likes this deal. What it says is "the gays" weren't too happy with the lobbying and unfounded endorsement that was going on. In fact, it makes it sound like "the gays" are the first group to stand up against such lobbying.
You seem to have completely missed the point of the article. | |
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| | RDC17
join:2011-05-15
Baltimore, MD | Re: Minorities love this deal! It doesn't say, but the president endorsed the deal on behalf of his organization, and now GLAAD has decided that the money isn't worth supporting a deal that has nothing to do with the mission of their organization.
»allthingsd.com/20110620/support-···his-job/ | |
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| | | | | Re: Minorities love this deal! said by RDC17:It doesn't say, but the president endorsed the deal on behalf of his organization, and now GLAAD has decided that the money isn't worth supporting a deal that has nothing to do with the mission of their organization. Exactly. The president of a single gay and lesbian oriented organization endorsed the deal. Then when others got wind of it, they questioned it, to the point of his submitting his resignation. One man does not equal "the gays". In fact, one single organization does not equal "the gays". The fact that this resulted in his resignation shows how much he does NOT speak for the group, much less the entire gay and lesbian community.
Again, your take from this article is baseless. | |
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| | | I'm hispanic and I don't support this deal! Stop type casting me! | |
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | A consumer group to watch out for this stuff? DSLR has been good about keeping tabs on the shilling (at least in the technology space) but what about big pharma and the rest?
Maybe there needs to be an advocacy group whose mission is to keep tabs on this stuff and to put pressure on the groups that are shilling.
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| cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: A consumer group to watch out for this stuff? said by PhoenixDown:DSLR has been good about keeping tabs on the shilling (at least in the technology space) but what about big pharma and the rest? The site caters to the broadband, wireless, and related industries. I don't see much of a reason to keep tabs on other very unrelated industries. Perhaps you could start MedicineReports.com or DrugReports.com... | |
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| | | | Re: A consumer group to watch out for this stuff? This is part of the larger issue of big powers masquerading as Grass Roots. It is a major force for deceit, usurpation, and disenfranchisement of the general populace. And it's not just big corporations. Take for instance the far-right pretending to represent the Republican mainstream. | |
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| openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | said by PhoenixDown:Maybe there needs to be an advocacy group whose mission is to keep tabs on this stuff and to put pressure on the groups that are shilling. There's no money in consumer advocacy. As soon as some true motivation pops up for "consumer shilling", then the playing field can level out. Don't count on that happening though  | |
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| | | | Re: A consumer group to watch out for this stuff? said by openbox9:said by PhoenixDown:Maybe there needs to be an advocacy group whose mission is to keep tabs on this stuff and to put pressure on the groups that are shilling. There's no money in consumer advocacy. As soon as some true motivation pops up for "consumer shilling", then the playing field can level out. Don't count on that happening though What is "consumer shilling"? | |
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| | | openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | Re: A consumer group to watch out for this stuff? What is corporate shilling? | |
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| | patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | said by openbox9:There's no money in consumer advocacy. As soon as some true motivation pops up for "consumer shilling", then the playing field can level out. Don't count on that happening though
The USSR will support consumer shilling websites for a glorious people's revolution in the USA. | |
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Thanks for the laugh! | |
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| | Minor Incident For AT&T AT&T will probably treat this as a minor incident. Heh heh.  | |
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| | | Re: Minor Incident For AT&T but are they taking it seriously? | |
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| | | | Re: Minor Incident For AT&T AT&T does not care if GLAAD leaders are taking it seriously or not. AT&T enjoyed what they have gotten from GLAAD regardless of that. AT&T only cares about money. | |
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| | | | | Re: Minor Incident For AT&T It was a joke on AT&T, was AT&T taking it seriously, a typical responce when something AT&T is doing and gets complaints, the PR firm responds towards the end that "they are taking this seriously" | |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 |  Stick to Gay rights advocacy?? I doubt it
GLAAD, but that the organization may need to further clean house and revisit its advocacy for causes unrelated to gay rights.
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| | | Re: Stick to Gay rights advocacy?? I doubt it said by Linklist:I'll believe that when I see it. They will still advocate for other liberal causes. The uproar over AT&T is because they are supposedly the deserved to be attacked EVIL corporation.
Of course they will. That is because liberal causes tend to align with gay causes. For example, support for the homeless is a big liberal thing - gay youth is significant portion of the homeless population. Drug rehab and less harsh drug laws are a liberal thing and there is a drug problem in the gay community. Sex education is a liberal platform and is absolutely vital for the health and welfare of gay youth.
This is not because AT&T are evil, it is because AT&T making more money and having more power isn't of direct benefit to the gay community. Last I checked, a significant portion of AT&T stockholders or upper management was gay. | |
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| |  ThespisI'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX | Re: Stick to Gay rights advocacy?? I doubt it said by HappyAnarchy :Last I checked, a significant portion of AT&T stockholders or upper management was gay.
Where did you check this? Link?
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join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Group Comments I spent some time on the FCC website reading comments from various organizations and it is really sickening. They also basically parrot the same AT&T talking points almost to a letter in some cases. The FUD they are spreading is mind numbing. Hopefully more members of these organizations will wake up and realize they are being sold out by their leaders. One of my favorites is that the T-Mobile spectrum will allow AT&T to expand rural coverage (as if they didn't have more spectrum than god already) and that prices will be lower due to economies of scale (AT&T and VZW customers want to chime in on their lower bills?).
I would love to believe the FCC would see through all the garbage in the comments filed by these organizations and instead pay attention to the thousands of comments from individuals deriding this merger. Sadly, money talks and BS walks.
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| | | Re: Group Comments actual in some cases tmobile had the better coverage in bum puck nowhere than AT&T did | |
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| | About to cancel T-mobile I will be cancelling my T-mobile service the second this actually goes through.
I wonder how many others will be doing the same? | |
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| | floating peices of poo, in the pool! Back when I was an SBC/at&t employee, 'the company' would regularly send out e-mails to EVERY employee with e-mail access, urging them to click some link, which would send a pre-written e-mail to designated representatives in the Congress. Often, you were not even able to read the e-mail you were sending to elected representatives!
oh yeah, and let's not forget, at&t is the company that threatens to fire you, if you do NOT donate some percentage of your paycheck, automatically to United Way ... so 'the company' can boast near 100% employee contributions.
at&t is clearly crossing some lines, in my opinion. If they're willing to pimp out employees in this manner, why should we expect 'the company' to act in an honorable fashion, when it comes to local/state/federal activities?
When my employment was threatened, because I chose NOT to let my employer dictate or even know/track my charitable contributions, I told my boss at the time, "If you think this is appropriate, you've got another thing coming! Go ahead! Fire me!" He didn't ...
The fact is, at&t is a dinosaur from the 19th century, that DOES NOT act in an honorable manner, in it's business practices. They frequently abuse employees, AND local/state/federal regulations. So long as it either generates revenue, or saves 'the company' money on something, they'll do it!
I'm SO thankful I don't do one iota of business with at&t! If/when the T-Mobile deal goes thru, I'll be additionally thankful I don't do business with T-Mobile either!
Death to Ma Bell!
down with at&t!
Lerch and Darth Felo can eat my shorts!  | |
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| | GLAAD Members Should be Commended I'm surprised that nobody has given the members of this organization kudos for removing officers that would act against the interests of their members. I wish more organizations had a membership engaged enough to know what their leadership is up to. | |
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| | | Re: GLAAD Members Should be Commended i have no issues with gay/lesbians.i have some friends who are same sex,my art has some fans who are,and they are still human beings like the rest of us.
good to them for taking the right stance.we do not want to see this BS Merger go thru. | |
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join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
kudos:1 | how do you send the news in for a tip. i had this linked in the old article and wasnt sure who to send it to. | |
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| | | Re: how do you You could just PM Karl Bode | |
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| cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | said by slckusr:send the news in for a tip. i had this linked in the old article and wasnt sure who to send it to.
Click here: »/news
Or click on the link clear at the bottom of the homepage that says "got some news?". | |
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| | | Re: Communications Workers of America they all are but those are Unions and they wouldn't lie. | |
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