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story category France Votes Down Three Strikes Law
Idea voted down 25-15 by National Assembly
(old news - 08:37AM Thursday Apr 09 2009)
tags: legal · Fileswapping · business · legislation · world
In what the AFP calls a "surprise set-back" for French President Nicolas Sarkozy, France's Parliament has voted down a plan that would have forced ISPs to terminate the connections of broadband users who the industry accuses of repeatedly transmitting copyrighted material via P2P. Few lawmakers showed up to vote on the measure, which was voted down 25-15 after several heated months of fighting over the idea. The music and film industry had supported the bill, and hope to see similar measures passed in countries worldwide.

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swhitney2003
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Take that Bono

Glad so see this was stopped. Labels have no right to play with someone's interweb connection. They should go to the proper authorities, and the authorities go to the ISP, and the ISP makes a decision on what to do with the subscriber.

"country's worldwide" Didn't know the world was part of France. :-P
permalink · 2009-04-09 08:42:14 · Reply to this

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Re: Take that Bono

The isp doesn't have to do anything with the subscriber.

If the AAs have proof they need to contact proper authorities. Authorities look and said proof and then get proper subpoena/warrant .
The authorities contact isp get user info with above subpoena/warrants.
Authorities go back and get new warrants to search users home.
If evidence is found authorities take proper action.

Last time I checked the AAs are not any sort of authorized legal authority nor is the ISP. Although the AAs seem to think they are.
permalink · 2009-04-09 09:47:52 · Print · Reply to this

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said by swhitney2003 See Profile :

Glad so see this was stopped.
Sorry, but it wasn't stopped. They will just reintroduce it amd make sure enough legislators show up next time for the vote.

»tech.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090409···rightlaw
But the government played down the bill's defeat in the National Assembly, saying an amended version would be put before parliament in the coming weeks.
P.S.>> French have a strange legislature. For many votes, hardly anyone ever shows up to vote.
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permalink · 2009-04-09 11:00:06 · Print · Reply to this

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Re: Take that Bono

It's not strange at all. If you have no idea what the bill is about and you do not understand the theory behind it why would you blindly vote on it. For example, if you’re a finance minister in France then you are not expected to vote on nuclear weapons proliferation issues, etc
permalink · 2009-04-09 11:45:13 · Reply to this

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 Of course the government has to say this is a temporary setback, otherwise they might as well call for new elections if they can't get their own party to pass their agenda.

Sounds like a minister revolt. Don't be surprised if this isn't taken up again by the current parliament.
permalink · 2009-04-09 15:58:03 · Reply to this

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said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

P.S.>> French have a strange legislature. For many votes, hardly anyone ever shows up to vote.
not really surprising when you factor in the french hardly do any real work either
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permalink · 2009-04-09 20:10:04 · Reply to this
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proof

they should ALWAYS have to show proof before terminating your connection... it should not be you having to prove you did nothing... no law should be passed that does not include burdon of proof by the acuser way beyond the "we think they did it" excuse
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Good

France most likely has laws similar to those in the USA which would allow for content owners to pursue legal action against people who infringe on their copyrights.

I am sick of the content industry trying to outsource the costs of the enforcement of their copyrights to ISPs, taxpayers, or any other third party.
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permalink · 2009-04-09 08:51:10 · Reply to this

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clubs:		 Shows both AA's where to go. Go job France for not bowing down to the AA's feet to kiss it.
permalink · 2009-04-09 08:58:50 · Reply to this

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I wonder how long before they finally cave in to the AA's?
permalink · 2009-04-09 09:40:00 · Reply to this

jhboricua
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clubs:		 Wasn't he praising this legislation yesterday?
permalink · 2009-04-09 09:59:54 · Reply to this
chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23		 get a VPN , have those records subpeona'd and hten YOUR 100% tied legally. YUP i seen the light of truth and all MPAA goes gets vpn's and records IP's
unless each VPN is dynamic.....
permalink · 2009-04-09 10:00:54 · Reply to this

Dubon

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Re: get the VPN

Or unless your VPN outside and real IPs pairing are not stored or logged.
permalink · 2009-04-09 10:07:56 · Reply to this

insomniac84

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Schererville, IN		 Hopefully the PR from this vote and the embarrassment of no one showing up sways them to kill it on the next vote.
permalink · 2009-04-09 10:38:52 · Reply to this

No to ESPN

@sbcglobal.net		 Of all places it appears that there may be intelligent life in the political bureaucracy.
permalink · 2009-04-09 13:42:22 · Reply to this

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1 edit		 HAHAHA.. Jeez, I know something like that would happen.

Man, I bet the **AA's are pissed now. I'm sure the U2 manager just got pwned by his comment.

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U2's long-time manager applauding France's new "three strikes" piracy law, which terminates the connections of users who are repeatedly accused of transmitting pirated P2P content.
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