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join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI | Android iPhone Typing this message from my new Android iPhone right now. | |
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: Android iPhone said by firewire9999  :Typing this message from my new Android iPhone right now. Okay, I'll bite; was this meant as a joke? I know there has been some talk of running Android on the iPhone, but to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been done yet...
Please elaborate.
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cdru
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: Android iPhone I believe it was just a lame jab, trying to say that the Android is just a iPhone knockoff. | |
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join:2003-02-04
Miami, FL
·Comcast
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| Re: Android iPhone said by kfsutops :You do realize you can turn that off right??? Probably not... Who cares, I'm not dumb enough to waste my money on that overpriced crap, I'm just sick of it in my email.
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join:2003-02-04
Miami, FL
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| Re: Android iPhone Thanks, It's not that I couldn't figure it out, I don't even have one, I'm just sick of it in my inbox.
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join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | or Sent from my BlackBerry device.
I don't see why people need to know how you sent the message. as long as its sent its sent. no big deal on how its done. | |
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CoxCable4
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join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
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| said by firewire9999 :Typing this message from my new Android iPhone right now. typing this message from my xv6700 (aka htc apache) right now. your behind the curve. I was listening to mp3's and watching videos, surfing the web on evdo/wifi 2 years before your iphone came out. | |
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA | I like T-Mobile I get service in more places around my area with T-Mobile than everyone I know on the other providers. | |
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join:2002-11-29
Carson, CA
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| Re: I like T-Mobile Are you kidding me? Tmobile? haha T mobile is horrid!
my friend has Tmobile can't get internet on his phone anywhere without wifi or that hotspot whatever, going to have him switch to Sprint or Att. | |
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join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: I like T-Mobile i have better service with TM than anyone else.
And you know that ATT and TM have a partnership for wireless services in Cali right? | |
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join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
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| Maybe in californialand. Out here in the real world they have to lease from ATT, same with virgin, boost, and most other smaller operations. Verizon, att, and sprint are the 3 major players here. Sprint is a joke as far as cell phone service goes, but if you're into "looking professional" with your cheesy PTT moto then sprint is a good place to be for you. If you like sketchy billing, texts that cost you, no roll-over etc etc go with verizon. If you want a phone company that works, and not just to screw you over, hop on board the ATT train. I'll be sitting in the middle car saving you a seat.
That being said, even my worst ATT nightmare was resolved with 2 phone calls. They even gave me back roll-over minutes that i lost when i renewed my contract so i could buy a new phone when my old one had too much wear (for that first month you technically have only the base minutes you choose to start with). They really have met me in the middle more than once and have been very flexible and seem to work hard to try and meet my needs. We had verizon before i had a cell, and they kept triple billing us, even months after service ended we were still seeing bills as if we had never canceled. Sprint never works aside from PTT in most of the east coast because of foliage and their focus on data vs voice. PTT is data, not voice, if no one knew that. 
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| Re: I like T-Mobile This is a silly argument- all cellular service is different depending on where you are, and what spectrum they have... Sprint and T-Mobile are mostly on the PCS band, while VZW and at&t make heavy use of the cellular band where signals propagate better. (However, the PCS band is seen as better for data services because it requires more towers, so it's harder to have network congestion.)
Sketchy billing is really more Verizon Telecom than Verizon Wireless- never had problems with my cell-phone bill. (FiOS billing is another story...) The thing with VZW is that most people I call use it as well, while if I was on another carrier that would dig into my minutes- it all depends on your situation. | |
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join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA
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| I'm in Orange county California. You would think AT&T's coverage would be good in a county with 3 million people, but you'd be wrong. Everywhere I'd want service AT&T doesn't cover: my house, my office by interstate 5, and the areas I like to hike. I've had service with T-Mobile for over 5 years and I've never had to call CS once cause I've never had any problems.
I do use my cell mostly for work to call me, at that's not all the much. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
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| TM doesnt "lease" from anyone. they own their own network. and they only have roaming in certain areas with ATT. And its not very many. Virgin is actually Sprint-Nextel the same as Boost. VZ and Sprint have roaming agreements as well.
ATT maybe a great carrier for you but chances are someone in your city would not agree with you. | |
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join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA | Re: I like T-Mobile TM bought the tower a block from my house from Cingular/AT&T, Cingular build it a year before they bought out AT&T's wireless and TM bought the tower just before AT&T acquired Cingular. | |
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| No GSM for me (for now) I won't be changing to a GSM phone any time soon, at least not while I still have my sweet $35 SERO plan with Sprint. If that went away and a GSM provider offered a reasonably priced plan, and if their name doesn't include the initials A, T, or the "&" sign, then I'd consider the switch.
Until that happens, I'll just have to continue waiting for Android on CDMA. Hopefully HTC will get to work on a CDMA version of the Dream so my wait won't be too terribly long!
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Hybrid power
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Helena, AL
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by Done_Posting :I won't be changing to a GSM phone any time soon, at least not while I still have my sweet $35 SERO plan with Sprint. If that went away and a GSM provider offered a reasonably priced plan, and if their name doesn't include the initials A, T, or the "&" sign, then I'd consider the switch. Until that happens, I'll just have to continue waiting for Android on CDMA. Hopefully HTC will get to work on a CDMA version of the Dream so my wait won't be too terribly long! - Tate Don't worry, you will miss Sprint's great call quality if you go to AT&T. I made that mistake trying out GSM. I have a Touch on $30 SERO and 3 family SE lines with Instincts. | |
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Kansas City, MO
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) GSM isn't synonymous with ATT. I've been a happy tmo customer for a good while now, and it's nice being able to switch out SIM cards when I go overseas - something I can't do with Sprint or VZW.
Call quality on my phone is also pristine on TMO's network.
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: No GSM for me (for now) I've been with TMobile for some time. Inside major metro areas, coverage is very good. In the suburbs, it's pretty good. However in rural settings, it leaves quite a bit to be desired. At least that's been my experience. | |
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
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| said by tiger72 :GSM isn't synonymous with ATT. I've been a happy tmo customer for a good while now, and it's nice being able to switch out SIM cards when I go overseas - something I can't do with Sprint or VZW. Call quality on my phone is also pristine on TMO's network. I agree that SIM cards are extremely nice. There's no competing with the ease of being able to move your services from phone to phone simply by replacing cards. While not quite as convenient as a SIM card, Sprint has the capability to provision phones on their website, but I haven't used it yet. I believe Verizon does as well, but I can't say for sure.
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iLive4Apple
Hybrid power
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join:2006-07-13
Helena, AL
·ViaTalk
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by Done_Posting :said by tiger72 :GSM isn't synonymous with ATT. I've been a happy tmo customer for a good while now, and it's nice being able to switch out SIM cards when I go overseas - something I can't do with Sprint or VZW. Call quality on my phone is also pristine on TMO's network. I agree that SIM cards are extremely nice. There's no competing with the ease of being able to move your services from phone to phone simply by replacing cards. While not quite as convenient as a SIM card, Sprint has the capability to provision phones on their website, but I haven't used it yet. I believe Verizon does as well, but I can't say for sure. - Tate It takes me less than 2 minutes to switch from my HTC Touch to my Muziq online. Verizon does have that feature as well. | |
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like one of the ones they sell.
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by Noob :
You probably had some shitty phone on at&t
like one of the ones they sell.
As for sprint and great call quality, thanks for the laugh.
You probably had some shitty phone from Sprint; I've personally had nothing but stellar service from them for the last four years straight. My one and only complaint is the new 5 GB EVDO cap.
As for AT&T and great anything, thanks for the laugh.
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iLive4Apple
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join:2006-07-13
Helena, AL
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by Done_Posting :said by Noob :
You probably had some shitty phone on at&t
like one of the ones they sell.
As for sprint and great call quality, thanks for the laugh.
You probably had some shitty phone from Sprint; I've personally had nothing but stellar service from them for the last four years straight. My one and only complaint is the new 5 GB EVDO cap. As for AT&T and great anything, thanks for the laugh. - Tate Does your usage show up on your account ever? Mine doesn't show up yet and I am scared I have been going over the cap now. But the cap doesn't really bother me since every other provider is doing it. It still upsets me. | |
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by iLive4Apple : Does your usage show up on your account ever? Mine doesn't show up yet and I am scared I have been going over the cap now. But the cap doesn't really bother me since every other provider is doing it. It still upsets me. It does. I average less than 100 MB a month (I use it pretty sparingly), but when I'm out of town I usually rely on EVDO much more heavily for connectivity. Curiously, I never received the notice about the caps, and it's still showing "unlimited" in my data usage report...
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| All of sprints phones are shitty duh, in fact all provider phones suck, power users buy unlocked gsm phones.. oh wait you don't have that option because you're with one of the few and I do mean few cdma providers in the world.
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by Noob :At&t has been stellar here in NYC, I see you're from Ohio so that explains much I certainly can't argue that point...
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iLive4Apple
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Helena, AL
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| said by Noob :
You probably had some shitty phone on at&t
like one of the ones they sell.
As for sprint and great call quality, thanks for the laugh.
No. They had some shitty codec called AMR-Half Rate and an over loaded network. Sprint uses a good codec and technology using CDMA and the EVRC codec. Oh and after going through $100 + phones with AT&T such as an LG CU515 and AT&T Tilt and the call quality is crap + everyone else here's call quality is crap and the fact that they run Half Rate all the time proves it is complete crap. Don't even get me started on my experience with their great "3G" technology either. | |
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: No GSM for me (for now) Well, that jives with my experiences working with AT&T's leased circuit services as well; I'm often forced to deal with them on DS1 and DS3 transport issues. AT&T has to be the worst when it comes time to get anything done (followed by Verizon Business). It's hilarious when you're on a conference call with two different AT&T departments and they are arguing with each other about not being able to do something. Good times!
I absolutely dread having to deal with AT&T, for either personal stuff or because of work.
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| Fact:Amr-HR is the equivalent to EVRC
Fact:AMR-HR sounds more like CDMA EVRC
AT&T & T-mobile towers only push out Half-Rate when the tower is overloaded, They have been putting up extra towers over the past 3 years. Other than that it pushes out full rate and the call quality is very good.
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iLive4Apple
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Helena, AL
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by Noob :
Fact:Amr-HR is the equivalent to EVRC
Fact:AMR-HR sounds more like CDMA EVRC
AT&T & T-mobile towers only push out Half-Rate when the tower is overloaded, They have been putting up extra towers over the past 3 years. Other than that it pushes out full rate and the call quality is very good.
Get your facst straight and change your avatar to show people you are not a sprint shill.
Fact. CDMA has soft handoff's where GSM has hard handoff's. Fact. AT&T doesn't know how to build a 3G network along with T-Mobile. AT&T's 3G can't compare to VZW and Sprint's EVDO. EVRC sounds as good or better than AMR-FR. AT&T around here doesn't belong in the wireless network, their stupidest decision was to run W-CDMA on 1900 on a tower layout spaced for 850mhz. Truth is, each provider has it's goods and bads. Here at least, Sprint and VZW are the leaders in wireless. AT&T may be good other places, but I have not run into a time where my AT&T phone automatically runs AMR-FR. | |
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| Re: No GSM for me (for now) said by iLive4Apple :said by Noob :
Fact:Amr-HR is the equivalent to EVRC
Fact:AMR-HR sounds more like CDMA EVRC
AT&T & T-mobile towers only push out Half-Rate when the tower is overloaded, They have been putting up extra towers over the past 3 years. Other than that it pushes out full rate and the call quality is very good.
Get your facst straight and change your avatar to show people you are not a sprint shill.
Fact. CDMA has soft handoff's where GSM has hard handoff's. Fact. AT&T doesn't know how to build a 3G network along with T-Mobile. AT&T's 3G can't compare to VZW and Sprint's EVDO. EVRC sounds as good or better than AMR-FR. AT&T around here doesn't belong in the wireless network, their stupidest decision was to run W-CDMA on 1900 on a tower layout spaced for 850mhz. Truth is, each provider has it's goods and bads. Here at least, Sprint and VZW are the leaders in wireless. AT&T may be good other places, but I have not run into a time where my AT&T phone automatically runs AMR-FR. AT&T runs 3.5 G now, hspda is much better and faster than evdo, various speedtests results easily obtainable through google prove this.
Where evdo excels is broadband penetration, and that's mainly with verizon not sprint..
VZW wins is in it's broadband penetration, AT&T did not plan well as far as 3g comes, but it's not like they are not building towers.
EVRC does not sound good as AMR-FR, do you not get this part? It's the technology.. no matter what you say it will never change this fact.
HR is what competes with EVRC
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join:2002-11-29
Carson, CA
| Blah It makes sense to release it on tmobile as an experiment, when its ready for prime time it can go on a real network (evdo) Sprint. Sprint isn't great when it comes to costumer service, i had to call in a few times cause the rep out of the U.S, sounded filipinos, wasn't much of a help, but you can't beat sprint's sound quality and evdo! | |
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| Did I miss something? I thought the google people wanted this to be an "open" platform for anyone with any (capable) phone on any network???
What's the point of them putting this out for one carrier only???
Sick of all this madness. Why can't one simply buy a phone, activate it with the carrier of their choice, and just use the darn thing? Don't care if it has a SIM card or not, it should still be possible. Granted, SIM cards are nifty, and I do like the idea, but this is just an OS right???
Guess much of the world uses GSM, but I personally don't care for it. CDMA still seems far more reliable, better quality, and more coverage (in the U.S.A. anyway).
GSM is based on TDMA also, right? ...Had a TDMA phone once, don't want one again if I can help it... thing would buzz my radio speakers in the car every time it rang (kept it in the console...) and I SWEAR it gave me a headache after a minute of call time. That, and it would heat up pretty badly, even 5 minutes into a call.
Though the idea sounds nice (android OS), guess the rest of us will have to wait and see if it ever comes to other carriers.
Meantime, I'll keep my old Moto that does CDMA AND Analog. Too many places with no digital coverage that analog still handles... I've already "got more" than what T-mo can do for me at this point... | |
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join:2006-10-09
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Meantime, I'll keep my old Moto that does CDMA AND Analog. Too many places with no digital coverage that analog still handles... I've already "got more" than what T-mo can do for me at this point...
Weren't all of the analog towers shut off near the beginning of this year? Where exactly are you getting analog coverage?
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On Feb. 18, Jay Sincavage will make one last phone call to say goodbye.
He'll bid farewell to the network technology that powered his first cellphone, an old StarTac -- once considered the technologist's model of choice -- that's bulkier than his wallet. At midnight that day, wireless networks across the country will start shutting down the old analog networks that launched the cellphone business 25 years ago.
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| Re: Did I miss something? Yes, most in major cities were turned off - and I imagine it helped clear up some interference etc...
In some rural areas though, it's still active and will remain so until there's sufficient digital coverage.
Even in the town I'm in right now, I can 'force' my phone to analog and it'll still make a call... I'm in KS.
Just a preference I guess, but I'd rather KNOW that my phone can work in some of these areas where there's zero digital signal, even if it is scratchy and kills the battery quickly.
Can't activate any pure analog phones on U.S. Cellular (or any carrier AFIK), but if the phone does CDMA as well, and is specifically meant for their network, it'll work. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| This particular device is just being released on T-Mobile first, however, it'll almost certainly spread to other devices on other networks. HTC tends to release GSM devices, and T-Mobile is an OHA member which also has a very large international network using GSM. You'll probably see Android phones on Sprint by 1Q 09, possibly earlier. | |
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A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY
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| Re: Did I miss something? Useless...
Isn't T-Mobile's 3G network ONLY for voice as of now? (»forums.crackberry.com/f69/boo-t-···y-32824/) Might as well get a jailbroken first-get iPhone, as much as I hate to say it.
Now, If this was released on ST&T or Sprint, I'd jump in joy...
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Shiny
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Santa Rosa, CA
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| Re: Did I miss something? T-Mobile's 3G data network is being turned on as we speak in select cities. 27 markets (larger than cities) by October 1st.
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join:2004-09-21
Tulsa, OK
| Android is out there Over at the xda-dev site they've got Android (sorta) working on the HTC Kaiser (AKA AT&T Tilt) although from what I can see, it's not reliable in the least-still porting/activating features/etc.
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