 lawrence171
Evilly Yours - Evilness
join:2001-12-24
Canada
1 edit | Friendster sucks
Friendster sucks, and now... will suck more! | |
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matt380
Dangit, Bobby.
Premium
join:2002-06-12
Kennesaw, GA
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1 edit | huh? i don't see anything damningin HER posts. have i missed something?
edit- gender change.. sorry! dang. | |
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join:2000-10-28
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"Trout Girl" and "Joyce" should have been a give-away, but I think it's a girl.
And those blog pages look TERRIBLE in Mozilla.
I have no interest in pursuing this story any further.
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crazediamond
That's Dr. Craze to you
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join:2002-01-19
Germantown, MD | Re: huh? but i thought all those alternatives to IE were coded by god himself and made perfect in every way :P
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tcp1
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join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA | Re: huh? HA! Props to you, crazediamond. That was teh funnay. | |
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Dennis
Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL | Shitcanned If I had a friendster account I would cancel it in a heartbeat in response to this. | |
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join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA |  With a name like sASSa......
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nolancj
join:2002-06-30
Long Beach, CA
| Re: Are we hearing the whole story? First, who really cares. I have no opinion w/o both sides of the story.
2nd, she did discuss 'proprietary information'. Despite the fact that you could get this info any number of ways.... who knows.
Regardless, my guess is there is more to the story. Companies will many times use an issue like this, which isn't really an "issue", to can someone they would have a harder time canning for other reasons.
There is definately more to the story. She may not know it, but I'll bet her boss does. | |
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Live free or die
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join:2002-12-20
Seattle, WA
| said by odog  :
i think the fact that she let people know they are now using PHP was the killer. which isn't highly sensative at all, anyone in a position to abuse that info could use many other avenues to discover they switched to PHP.
You mean like looking at the extension at the end any Friendster page?
ROTFLMAO! | |
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Trakker
Danger
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join:2003-01-12
ß | And this is news how? Jesus... | |
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@161.57.x.x | Re: And this is news how? amen! | |
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Trivista
join:2003-11-11
Longview, TX
| One of their board members. John Doerr is a sun board member and may not have taken kindly to negative comments made against JSP.
John Doerr - John is a General Partner at Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. John currently serves on the Board of Directors of Intuit, Amazon.com, WebMD.com, Drugstore.com, Homestore.com, Handspring, Sun Microsystems, Google, Good Technology, Elance and Smartpipes. John holds a BS and MS in Electrical Engineering from Rice University and an MBA from the Harvard Graduate School of Business Administration. | |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| Re: One of their board members. said by Trivista :
John Doerr is a sun board member and may not have taken kindly to negative comments made against JSP.
So "saying negative things about JSP" is worse than "abandoning JSP for PHP"?
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join:2003-11-11
Longview, TX | Re: One of their board members. In the eyes of some PHB's yes, yes it is. I am not saying it's right what they did (I think it is insane) but it may be a possible motive as to why. | |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | yay i cancelled | |
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winterforge
Premium
join:2000-07-23
Seattle, WA
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| ... Thank God they fired her for telling about using PHP in her blog, there's no way I would have known if not for her. I can't even find it in this URL when I click on sign up at their site »www.friendster.com/join.php How dare her discuss such private information.
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Most companies would have disiplined her .... I mean, she goes on a public setting (her blog), identifies herself as a company employee, and makes what I'm sure are unauthorized comments about the company.
That would be a big no-no at most places. Companies hire PR and marketing people to make statements about themselves to the outside world. They can't have employees making uncoordinated off the cuff comments like that. There could even be unintended legal consequences for the company for doing so.
She was pretty naive for doing this. Firing may have been harsh, but she was pretty dumb. | |
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Cheddarhead
Ain't Nuthin But A Thang
join:2002-02-19
Hudson, WI
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| Re: Most companies would have disiplined her .... said by PDXPLT :
I mean, she goes on a public setting (her blog), identifies herself as a company employee, and makes what I'm sure are unauthorized comments about the company.
That would be a big no-no at most places. Companies hire PR and marketing people to make statements about themselves to the outside world. They can't have employees making uncoordinated off the cuff comments like that. There could even be unintended legal consequences for the company for doing so.
She was pretty naive for doing this. Firing may have been harsh, but she was pretty dumb.
/Duh, I would have shit canned her ass too
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA | There are Two Sides to every story.
We heard one side. I wonder what the other side is? | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| She gave out info. Good thing she is canned. Now other employees of that stupid company and others will think twice about discussing work on their blogs. Yea you can argue that what she gave out was benign or completely obvious, but if her company wanted to post that info, they would have done it on their main page. If businesses can't force employees to keep business within the company than the business world is going to be in trouble. What if another company with a competing page saw that and say they were using jsp too. They may have had a jumpstart on switching over to catch friendster in the speed increase that php gave them. Anyone supporting this chick is just stupid. She has a propensity to leak company info, I hope she no longer can employed anywhere. | |
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join:2003-11-11
Longview, TX | Re: She gave out info. The fact that they use php is on their front page. If they wanted to hide it they should have configured their webserver to hide it.
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Java Geek
join:2000-11-27
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| If the company did not wish their employees to discuss their work and non-confidential information about work, they should have a clear policy stating as much.
This is clearly a very poor decision made by someone who doesn't understand the dynamics of Internet communities: ie the CEO of Friendster. Kind of ironic for a company whose business is the Internet communities.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
1 edit | Re: She gave out info. You can't be serious? It has nothing to do with the CEO not knowing what a blog is. So by your thinking anything is ok as long as its on a blog. It doesn't matter how serious the information she gave out was, its the fact that she had no problems posting private company business without asking permission. If it was left to continue, sooner or later something dammning would probably have been posted. A member of this site should be fully aware of issues like this. Why do you think employees of companies will post anonymously about things. If their bosses knew they were posting company business on this site, those guys would be canned. Ignorance is no excuse! | |
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devrandom
I got a pot, full of random stuff here
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join:2003-06-28
| Re: She gave out info. Blogging works like going to a podium and giving a speech. You don't know who is listening, but you sure know that its a lot of people out there.
When you're up at a podium, you're going to try and make yourself and whatever you do shine.
Joyce has stated she loved Friendster; if you go through her posts she actually took heart to the Friendster team. If anything negative would have happened at Friendster, i'm sure she would have dealt with it on her own. She is a smart girl, and would have known what it meant to post something negative (a canning for those who are not following).
I honestly don't see anything against Friendster on her blog..up to her termination (which meant any obligations that she had became moot unless a post-NDA or such was in effect)..i'm only seeing how much she loved that company up to the point of her getting thrown out.
You can't really judge what is right and wrong since its a subjective issue-, only what your company tells you, and some of what you define; and when there is no policy, its free for all. Or so a lot of people say. Self-moderation. Abuse the freedom, get the chain yanked..yadda yadda.
I'm lucky a lot of my work set conditions for blogging. I also show some self-restraint for personal items, and projects which I partially lead.
Public speaking is like that. Self-restraint. Joyce showed all of those requirements, and still got canned. They just got rid of a fantastic engineer they didn't want to pay for. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Re: She gave out info. She didn't show anything that you speak off. And now you add as long as you love the company its ok. Simple fact is, if your place of work doesn't tell you what's ok to post online, by default nothing is. To stick up for her is just plain dumb. Its this simple, don't talk about company business without permission. | |
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join:2004-04-24
Concord, NH | Re: She gave out info. you need your sleep | |
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tcp1
Premium
join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA | Giving out info?
Telling somebody that your website runs PHP or JSP is about as secret as telling somebody standing on the side of the road that your car is red. | |
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redleaf
join:2000-09-12
3 edits | Final nail in Friendster's coffin? MySpace doesn't even have to compete with Friendster they will just kill themselves. The site's still in beta after almost 2 years. And nothing much has changed in that time. The sites been wheezing on life support since 2004 started. And looking at my Friendster network no one much has been using it since March or April. They have the best site name of all the networking sites. But MySpace has all the features one should have, and people actually use it.
The site's gotten so bad they've come to bragging about this in their "news" section as a great new feature:
»apprentice.friendster.com/appren···ash.html | |
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