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Erring on the side of copyright protection
(old news - 02:40PM Saturday Dec 08 2007)
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Western Digital got into some hot water a couple of years ago when customers realized that their storage hard drives didn’t store as much material as their advertised capacity suggested. Now the company’s capacity matches what it advertises but you might not actually be able to do what you intended to do with their storage devices. That’s because they have installed software into their devices to prevent audio and video file-sharing. This defeats a significant amount of the purpose that many people use the devices for.
“"Who needs a 1Tbyte network-connected hard drive that is prohibited from serving most media files? Perhaps somebody with 220 million pages of .txt files they need to share?"”
That quote comes from a user who believes that Western Digital is caving to the demands of Hollywood for copyright protection at the expense of the rights of consumers to do what they wish with their own technological devices.

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why?

Why would anyone buy one?

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Re: why?

I know this is beyond stupid. your average joe would toss his music on the drive but it wouldnt work, say "fuck it" and return it from the store he bought it from.

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Their drives are crap anyway. I used to only use WD, then a few years ago, they dropped the warranty down to 1 year or somesuch.. and low and behold I had 2 200 GB drives die while very new.

I use only Seagate now due to the long warranty.

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Re: why?

said by KrK See Profile :

Their drives are crap anyway. I used to only use WD, then a few years ago, they dropped the warranty down to 1 year or somesuch.. and low and behold I had 2 200 GB drives die while very new.

I use only Seagate now due to the long warranty.
I have the opposite experience, my seagate and maxtor drives have failed, but the WDs and IBM (deathstars) still going strong.
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Re: why?

WD is garbage...that they are pulling theses stunts come as no surprise...

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Yes, I'm sure with Hard-drives, it's a "Luck of the draw" type deal and you can find people who swear up and down by a particular brand.

However, for me, the deciding factor is warranty.

If one Manufacturer offers 90 days, and the other 3 years, (or better, 5) well, I'm going with the 3 years. I feel that if the manufacturer is worried enough about the quality of their product to not stand behind it for long then I should be worried as well. Also, I notice some manufacturers will warranty high end drives for a decent period, but then have a short warranty on their "Consumer grade" type drives. To me that suggests: Good quality control for the high end, but low quality/rejects for the "Consumer". Either way, I call it on warranty.
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WD drives always worked fine for me.

However, this is rather disappointing, and would just ensure my switch to Seagate.

If I felt like sharing from my network, whether it be approved or not, I should be able to do so without interference.

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Already covered over at Slashdot

Slashdot covered this a few days ago. It's not the drives that prevent sharing of data. It's the MioNet software that's included with the drive that prevents the file sharing. MioNet is basically VPN-line software that allows remote access to your files.

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Re: Already covered over at Slashdot

from your link

Update: 12/07 03:28 GMT by Z : To clarify, it actually seems as though this is a bad summary. The MioNET service that WD packages with the networked drives is responsible for the rights of users via the network. There are a few (obvious) ways to get around that.

Maybe WD make a mistake in choosing MioNET for their software...
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Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

Or for that matter any hard drives distributed in US. Order overseas and have shipped if this is an issue for you.

IT is for me because what I do with my hard drive is my business. If I want to break the law than that is my choice to make, not Western Digitals.

There are also some legal uses that this technology might prohibit. No thanks, will stay away from WD.

Sad thing is most people buy their computer pre-assembled so how will you know?

cdru
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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

said by raye See Profile :

IT is for me because what I do with my hard drive is my business. If I want to break the law than that is my choice to make, not Western Digitals.
While I agree with you, the US judicial system doesn't quite. See references to Napster, Limewire, Grokster, Bittorrent, et al.

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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

Agreed! Consumer trust is gone.
Western Digged their own grave with this treachery as far as this buyer's dollars are concerned.

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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

I didnt see such indignation on these forums when it was proven that comcast was blocking torrent. All people have to do is NOT install the optional software and the drive is like any other normal drive. Big deal.
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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

Isn't it pre-installed though?

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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

I think it does come with the anywhere access software installed. It is not installed on your local OS.
WD gives instruction on how to use the drive without the mionet software.

"Can a WD My Book World Edition hard drive be used without using WD Anywhere Access?
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Can I use a WD My Book World Edition hard drive without using WD Anywhere Access?
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A WD My Book World Edition hard drive can be accessed and used for Local Network access (LAN) through SAMBA connectivity methods without using The WD Anywhere Access program.
If data has already been added to shares on the drive using WD Anywhere Access (MioNet), this data will need to be copied or transferred to the internal computer's drive(s) or other SAMBA shares BEFORE MioNet is to be disabled or uninstalled. Data contained in shares under MioNet's control will not be accessible if the program is uninstalled. Once you've moved the data from the MioNet protected shares to the internal computer or another location, you can proceed creating SAMBA share(s) on the drive."
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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

Thanks.

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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

Sorry now Im changing my mind again after reading the quick install instructions say you must install the anywhere access, but it runs on Linux, so that isnt true
Going to read the full instructions and then edit this.
Thats what I get for repeating things i read on /. without verification.

Ok, it is unclear wether it is installed on the drive, it doesnt matter, theres a web interface preinstalled and the root name/password is "The default user name is admin and the default password is 123456"

So you would be able to setup Samba shares without having to install that software on your computer.

The web interface is independent of the service, mac users cannot use the mionet software so they configure it that way. Apparently there are hacks to make it a server since it has its own ARM processor. And its all GPL opensource, the source is at the WD site.

They have 2TB My Books now, think I'll get a 1 tb when the prices go down.

Found the "modification" site >> »mybookworld.wikidot.com/hacks-and-howto

"fold Re: SSH Access
floris 21 Oct 2007, 09:38 -0-700
If Martin did not know what was inside the box, I don't know. I is however noticable he has opend it and posted some internal info before he created the the ssh hack by looking at the dates he posted information about the box. It is not that hard to hook up and mount the disk by use of sata cable. (the nasty part is opening and closing the box without damage ) The best part is that Martin found a security flaw in the firmware upgrade functionality that can be used to hack the box and own it. Fundamental for easy hacking. I think many people are very happy with that work. Now let's make it better then WD wants."

Lol they already have a lot of linux server functionality working, and an eggdrop IRC server. They are saying it hangs on large files for the bittorrent server.

dgb2007

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LOL, I beg to differ, if theor drives were like others they would happily back them with a 5 year warranty...1 year on a hard disk drive is pathetic....but givem my past experience with them they are likely to faul before that time anyway.

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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

My WD drives have at least 3 year warranty. I just bought them earlier this year. If you want a longer warranty then buy a drive with a longer warranty. WD does offer them.,

I have never had a WD drive fail. I have a closet full of old ones that never died. On the other hand, I also have several Maxtors in the closet all of which died. This is going back 20 years.

My choice is clear.
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There never was any consumer trust.

The difference today is that "business" can do something about it... not that I think their efforts are worthwhile.
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So to use your analogy, the RIAA and MPAA can sue WD, Dell or any other hardware maker or reseller for that matter unless they take steps to stop piracy, rather than the sites you mention who actively facilitated it.

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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

That's what the ehtertainment "industry" would have you believe.... ain't it shit?.... however if any of the Hardware/Middleware/resellers/OS/etc. wanted to they could challenge the shills and win with little effort. Problem is, Ol' Billy Gates wants to get into entertainment too, so he's trying to pad the books and fix the game BEFORE he even enters.... by him programming M$ Windoze, he quasi-forces hte HW/MW folks to capitulate...
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Re: Don't buy Western Digital Hard Drives

Since when is Gates the devil in this story? Yeah the part about mpaa getting a part of zune revenue... But how about Jobs wanting you to pay to be able to rip YOUR OWN dvds to an iPod?

In the end the real devil is the MPAA/RIAA

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I agree. I spend my cash on something, I will use it how I please and no software would stop me.

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Agreed. Note to self:
Avoide buying any WD product.

Let the consumer vote with his money.

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Let me get this straight

They are shipping the drives with pre-installed software on them. So, shouldn't you just do what I do with any new drive and FORMAT it?
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Re: Let me get this straight

That's what I was thinking. No one says you HAVE to use the included software.

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Re: Let me get this straight

said by TheMG See Profile :

That's what I was thinking. No one says you HAVE to use the included software.
Well if they don't trust us, they can go screw themselves because they aren't going to see a penny from me again!
And who the hell thought up this bright idea???? Didn't they realize that they are just hurting themselves and helping some other company that doesn't give a shit about WD?

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Couple of comments to be made here:

1. The reason why you wouldn't format a western digital world drive, is because therefore it is no longer a world drive, rather just a extremely expensive USB hard drive.
2. Western Digital, consider this a boycott, I have bought close to 25 drives from you (I have 19 computers), and they should not think for one minute that I won't move to an inferior product just to boycott them.
3. All of these restrictions are bound to catch them, as soon as the very consumers and companies that buy their product realize their crippling effect on a product that is unrestricted.
4. Movie Companies: You realize, because you say I can't, I most definitely will!

Need an uncorrupted somewhat knowledgeable congress man soon!

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said by coold8 See Profile :

Need an uncorrupted somewhat knowledgeable congress man soon!

Here I am, put me in office. Willing to serve U.S. citizens/individuals interests.


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said by N O Y B See Profile :

said by coold8 See Profile :

Need an uncorrupted somewhat knowledgeable congress man soon!

Here I am, put me in office. Willing to serve U.S. citizens/individuals interests.

two votes for you!
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Good point, however if you get one of those pre-built PCs and the main drive is a WD then well, you could be in a pickle if you don't know what you are doing or don't know how a computer really works. Unfortunately for the most part people who buy pre-built PCs fall in that category.

The sad thing is that I used to be a loyal WD guy and I would recommend WD drives to people. But now Seagate looks so much better and from now on I am going to recommend Seagate. It's a good company that has been making hard drives for as long as WD. In fact, my next computer build is gonna have dual 500GB SATA Seagate drives.
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i would classify the drive in question as NAS. all that is a specailized computer with a huge hard drive. i'm sure it has some sort of operating system running some special server/program that allows the drive to be accessed from computers on the network. the server portion (basically some program by WD) is the part restricting the drive access.

as for formating, i doubt it is possible. i don't know the implementation, but it would depend on where the software (OS and server) is stored. if it is on the hard drive itself, formatting the drive is probably impossible and would be equivalent to trying to format C: in windows. if it (OS + server) is on FLASH (which i'm guessing is the case), formatting the drive, if even possible, won't get you anywhere. in general, you would have to hack the firmware somehow to remove this anti movie and audio file 'functionality'.
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Re: Let me get this straight

Ok, it is unclear wether it is installed on the drive, it doesnt matter, theres a Linux kernel with ethernet access preinstalled and the root name/password is "The default user name is admin and the default password is 123456"

So you would be able to setup Samba shares without having to install that software on your computer.

The web interface is independent of the service, mac users cannot use the mionet software so they configure it that way. Apparently there are hacks to make it a server since it has its own ARM processor. And its all GPL opensource, the source is at the WD site.

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WD

Glad I bought a Seagate.
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Re: WD

said by Elite See Profile :

Glad I bought a Seagate.
No kidding, I bought a Seagate External 500GB and almost 2 years later it's still kicking.

I think my internal is also a Seagate.

Wanna bet this'll boost their stock?

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Re: WD

I'd bet customers won't understand what the problem is and either return it to the store or flood WD customer support with questions before returning it to the store.

ontheotherhand

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Network

It seems that the block function part of the software that allows access via the internet. Format the Drive, Don't access the drive via the internet or best of all DON'T BUY the drive in the first place.
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Don't forget that...

...this only applies to their external network drive product and only affects off-network file sharing (through the web).

There will likely not be any such restrictions implemented into internal hard drives or plain USB external drives. It simply would be impossible to implement such restrictions at the hardware level without cooperation from the software layer (operating system).

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Future?

I wonder what else down the pipe line the AA's will have restricted?

I think they have gone WAY to far, but thats just me.

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Software

It's just the software, don't install the sofware..simple as that.

I buy a hardrive that performs well, saying never to buy WD ever again is ignorant.

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said by The Flash See Profile :

It's just the software, don't install the sofware..simple as that.

I buy a hardrive that performs well, saying never to buy WD ever again is ignorant.
No it isn't... This company just gave the virtual finger to all of us who don't want Big Brother telling us what to do on the internet. They can go screw themselves.

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Unacceptable

My dollars will go elsewhere.

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Re: Unacceptable

I own 3 WD My Books. The drives come with some software to share the files easier and junk but I just format the drive and make a network share.

Just don't use the software and you are fine.

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Re: Unacceptable

said by Chiyo See Profile :

I own 3 WD My Books. The drives come with some software to share the files easier and junk but I just format the drive and make a network share.

Just don't use the software and you are fine.
By purchasing those drives, you in effect have said that it is "OK" for WD to screw their customers over... In this world, we can vote each day with our wallets..

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I bought them in the last year and half, My crystal ball must be broken.

Seriously people are blowing this way out of per portion. WD it seems locks down THEIR software and cripples the drive but gives the consumer the OPTION not too use the software.

Now if the software was mandatory and the device didn't work without it then I'd be upset.

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said by Chiyo See Profile :

I bought them in the last year and half, My crystal ball must be broken.

Seriously people are blowing this way out of per portion. WD it seems locks down THEIR software and cripples the drive but gives the consumer the OPTION not too use the software.

Now if the software was mandatory and the device didn't work without it then I'd be upset.
Well, the simply fact that they would even include such software shows that they are out to get us... What do they benefit from having this software packaged with their drives? Most people will install it and NOT know that it cripples their drives.

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I honestly doubt that the features have been implemented up to a year and half ago. For one of the drives I did install the software and sharing worked fine.

This must be a new version of the software is all. I think your looking too much into this.
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I wonder...

... how intelligent the software really is. For example, what would happen if the media files were zipped up in some sort of archive format (zip, rar, etc) or encrypted. Does the software do deep packet inspections?

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All or nothing approach

WD is taking the all or nothing approach. Absolutely correct, why would your average user need a 1 or 2tb hard drive. If WD did care about it's customers, then they wouldn't of done this.

Would also like to add is this will only work for WD if the other hard drive makers follow suit. If they don't, WD will have a hard choice to make. What happens to the people who have there own works or copyrights that have expired?

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Bone heads!

Let 'em cave to Hollywood. This won't last long. I'll be happy to buy drives from another company.
Just the idea that they would even try such BS, puts them on the bottom of my list. I'm not saying that I won't buy another WD drive, but I'll look to the other companies first. I just bought 4 WD 500 GB drives a couple of months ago. To bad I didn't hear this before. Seagate drive were only a little more. I would have went with them. I'll remember this next time around.

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Western Digital's Death

Western Digital SUCKS... I will never buy another one of their hard drives again... NEVER.....
Anyone here interested in economics? Watch this company, it'll be failing soon.

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Re: Western Digital's Death

said by Tzale See Profile :

Western Digital SUCKS... I will never buy another one of their hard drives again... NEVER.....
Anyone here interested in economics? Watch this company, it'll be failing soon.

-Tzale
Their 1TB drives are excellent. They are very quiet and run much cooler than other 1TB drives.
I have two WD 1TB drives and two Hitachi 1TB drives. I will be purchasing 2 or 3 more in the next few months and they will be the WD Terabyte drives.
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Re: Western Digital's Death

Just so long as you don't want to share you music or videos with - YOURSELF!

Buy away - If quiet is more important than functionality, I'm sure you'll be quite happy.

Cheers!

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We get it, you aren't buying WD drives anymore, saying it once is needed, NINE TIMES is just excessive.

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Re: Western Digital's Death

said by Paulg See Profile :

We get it, you aren't buying WD drives anymore, saying it once is needed, NINE TIMES is just excessive.
I'm never purchasing another WD drive.... There, 10 times...

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western digital sucks anyways

just get Seagate or Fujitsu, they are better anyway :P

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just get Seagate or Fujitsu, they are better anyway :P
Already have... I haven't purchased a WD drive in a while after having two of them fail on me... I have several Seagate drives going strong 5+ years later.
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Re: western digital sucks anyways

Wow! I haven't heard anyone recommend a Fujitsu drive in a decade. I won't touch the things again.

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I'll still buy their drives

I'm not going to stop buying any of their drives. I'm using at least 9 of their drives right now. Two 1TB drives, three 750GB drives, one external 750GB drive, and several smaller capacity drives. I still have a couple of Terabytes of HD TV shows I recorded between 2001 and 2004. I used to have even more.
I'm not going to stop buying their products.

If you have any problems with what they are doing, get a Buffalo NAS. I have a couple of them and they work fine. They have gigabit connections too.

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Re: I'll still buy their drives

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I'm not going to stop buying any of their drives. I'm using at least 9 of their drives right now. Two 1TB drives, three 750GB drives, one external 750GB drive, and several smaller capacity drives. I still have a couple of Terabytes of HD TV shows I recorded between 2001 and 2004. I used to have even more.
I'm not going to stop buying their products.
Do what you want.. No one is going to tell you to stop using their drives today, but I wouldn't recommend you give money to a company that is basically fucking us all over.

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said by aaronwt See Profile :

I'm not going to stop buying any of their drives. I'm using at least 9 of their drives right now. Two 1TB drives, three 750GB drives, one external 750GB drive, and several smaller capacity drives. I still have a couple of Terabytes of HD TV shows I recorded between 2001 and 2004. I used to have even more.
I'm not going to stop buying their products.
Do what you want.. No one is going to tell you to stop using their drives today, but I wouldn't recommend you give money to a company that is basically fucking us all over.

-Tzale
That would apply to many companies.
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Re: I'll still buy their drives

said by aaronwt See Profile :

said by Tzale See Profile :

said by aaronwt See Profile :

I'm not going to stop buying any of their drives. I'm using at least 9 of their drives right now. Two 1TB drives, three 750GB drives, one external 750GB drive, and several smaller capacity drives. I still have a couple of Terabytes of HD TV shows I recorded between 2001 and 2004. I used to have even more.
I'm not going to stop buying their products.
Do what you want.. No one is going to tell you to stop using their drives today, but I wouldn't recommend you give money to a company that is basically fucking us all over.

-Tzale
That would apply to many companies.
Not just many.I would say ALL companies.

Transmaster
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What a shame I liked WD. Well I have purchased my last WD drive. With all of the other brands out their I have lots of other choices. WD you just lost a long time customer.
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We're losing storage companies!!

Maxtor, Western Digital, and Seagate are the only retail available drives. You can get Hitachi, IBM, Toshiba, and (I think a few other generic ones).

Seems like Seagate are the only ones worth buying anymore...

I have two WD's, two Maxtors, and one Seagate. I am slowly trying to get rid of the Maxtors, and now the WD's...

On a side note, Maximum PC did a review of the MioNET software, and found it to be a major PITA. I believe they found that you can use the drive w/o the software, and it works a lot better...
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dgb2007

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Re: We're losing storage companies!!

IBM sold out to HITACHI years ago...so even if it has IBM, they are HITACHI drives...

The Flash
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Funny..

How everyone is saying WD sucks without any evidence...

Seagate synthetic benchmarks and AAK firmware anyone?
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Re: Funny..

Screw the benchmarks. People don't use specs, they don't use benchmarks - they use DRIVES. If the drive doesn't do what its supposed to, IT SUCKS. Specs are irrelevant.

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said by The Flash See Profile :

How everyone is saying WD sucks without any evidence...

Seagate synthetic benchmarks and AAK firmware anyone?
I don't go by benchmarks... I go by how long the drive actually lasts and the company's customer service. I don't care if the drive is the fastest in the world, it doesn't do very well if the drive only lasts 13 months w/ a 12 month warranty.

WD has good hardware, but their customer service is a little lackluster. Never have had to deal with Seagate. Maxtor used to be the best, but they have also gotten worse....
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Re: Funny..

I used to be quite the WD supporter as well never had problem with their drives. Then I lost a few drives and now i have a few seagates (and a cheap maxtor, which might not have been my best idea) in my computer.

It wasn't that WD's customer service was bad though, they RMA'd my drive for me, allthough I had to pay to ship it there out of my own pocket (Which what made up for shipping a 250gb back), but since the 120 died as well and was only 2 years old (i have stringent standards), I thought I'd try other brands.
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We need more forward thinking companies like this!

I think Nike should make their shoes less comfortable so it is harder to run away when someone commits a crime.

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I don't care WD your HDs aren't as fast as Hitachi

I will take a 1 TB Hitachi any day over any Western Digital hard drive. I don't care if you all even release a new Raptor I won't be getting it. You all haven't for a while and doubt you all ever will.

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Re: I don't care WD your hard aren't as fast as Hitachi

said by imtim83 See Profile :

I will take a 1 TB Hitachi any day over any Western Digital hard drive.
hitachi was the manufacturer of the IBM Deathstar[deskstar]
i'd never buy hitachi anything
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Re: I don't care WD your hard aren't as fast as Hitachi

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by imtim83 See Profile :

I will take a 1 TB Hitachi any day over any Western Digital hard drive.
hitachi was the manufacturer of the IBM Deathstar[deskstar]
i'd never buy hitachi anything
said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by imtim83 See Profile :

I will take a 1 TB Hitachi any day over any Western Digital hard drive.
hitachi was the manufacturer of the IBM Deathstar[deskstar]
i'd never buy hitachi anything
yes and the Deathstar was a "hardware" flaw, this software problem is like the end of WD for some people.

Remember when Intel said they would put some Identification crap in their CPUs? I'll never buy Intel again

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The Death Star drives are history. Don't compare those turkeys
with what Hitachi makes these days. I think I will try a Samsung drive next they have good ratings at a very good price. Samsung also has a interesting HD which has on board flash memory where it keeps frequently accessed files to improve the drives search times.
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said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by imtim83 See Profile :

I will take a 1 TB Hitachi any day over any Western Digital hard drive.
hitachi was the manufacturer of the IBM Deathstar[deskstar]
i'd never buy hitachi anything
I know and I made a big fuss about it at storagereview at the time. Heck you can ask them yourself if you really want to. I remember that. I almost bought a deathstar! Luckily I found storagereview and read about all their problems right before buying one! Thank god for storagereview. Glad they didn't go offline like they could of a few years ago. Such a great niche hard drive website!

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Re: I don't care WD your hard aren't as fast as Hitachi

Finally got sick of my Deathstar 120 gb, either that or it decided to make my PC randomly freeze whenever it pleases. They're quite loud ( constant high-pitched squeal ). Took it out, and replaced it with an older, Maxtor 40 gb HD I had laying around. Much quieter and actually feels a little faster.
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