 
wifi4milez
In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | They do offer faster speeds The link above leads you to a page that says they do offer a 10Mbps download option, however there is no price listed. | |
|
 | jesseb_66
join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ | Re: They do offer faster speeds 128kbps up on FTTH? that is freaking horrible... even for $25. | |
|
| | EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: They do offer faster speeds Hm- is this a technological limitation (used old technology in deployment and now can't afford to upgrade to a modern system) or just the provider refusing to provide higher speeds? | |
|
| | | |
DoRight
join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA
 ·Comcast
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Amish love it.. Kutztown is a rural area with little need for anything more then what they are offering. There are two things in that area Kutztown University and Pennsylvania Dutch.. And there is nothing wrong with that. I wish more areas would have local competition like this. | |
|
thevorpal
join:2007-11-16
Endicott, NY
| This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. The fact that Kutztown has fiber at all is pretty damned amazing. The area, even today, is very rural.
While it isn't the heart of Amish country, you have to admit that any place getting fiber that is also known as an area with a large Amish population is pretty amazing.
It does show that something like this can exist. The prices may be higher, but they aren't so high as to be out of reach from the average resident. | |
|
| jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
 ·ViaTalk
| Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. The fact that you're getting all excited about it just because it's fiber says a lot too. The speed is crap, the price is mediocre, so what does it matter whether it's being delivered over fiber or barbed wire fence?
This might as well be a story about how evil broadband providers cheat customers by only offering 128k up, and leave off the bit about the layer 1 media completely. | |
|
| | jgantert
join:2004-06-02
Columbia, MD
| Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. Well, fiber is going to be a lot more reliable than copper for starters.  Plus, I'm sure that can upgrade in the future if there is a need. Still, pretty amazing that such a rural area is wired as it is! Way to go! | |
|
| | | |
| | | | 
NetAdmin
join:2008-05-22
| Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. said by espaeth  :The thing fiber really has going for it is the lack of susceptibility to EMI/RFI, otherwise copper and fiber are on-par for reliability with a slight edge actually going to copper. (no optics to burn out, copper wire is less fragile than glass, no reliance on power utility for functionality at the residence, etc) They're both affected by backhoe fade / trucks hitting poles, attached equipment failure, etc. You forgot that copper installations act as conductors in the event of lightning and the occasional high voltage electric arcs/wires down/crossed wires/etc. Copper also suffers from environmental issues more - water intrusion and related shorts and unintentional grounds, temperature related contraction and expansion, etc.
That slight edge you talk about has also been erased by some of the new products coming out.
--
---
Over ten plus years of carrying The Clue Bat... | |
|
| | | |
| | |
| | | jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
·ViaTalk
| Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. As a former resident of Murrysville, DuBois, State College, and the Philly burbs, I'm pretty familiar with the demographics and geography of Pennsylvania, and the fact that I'm on the internet and can type means I can belittle anything I want to. Even in Mechanicsburg (isn't that where the famous wing place is?) you speak English, so you'll note that nowhere in my post did I bash Kutztown or belittle anyone.
I'm not suggesting that the fiber network isn't nice; simply that if their main offering is 2M/128k service, it's not all that exciting.
If they have a long term plan to leverage the infrastructure into something worthwhile then it would be exciting. At least for Kutztownians. | |
|
| | | | DoRight
join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. Not sure about any famous wings around here... We have the awesome 80's hairband Poison.. So there.. | |
|
| | | | | 
heat84
join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. said by DoRight :Not sure about any famous wings around here... We have the awesome 80's hairband Poison.. So there.. Considering what the lead singer has been doing latley (a shitty reality show on VH1), I wouldn't be to proud of that. | |
|
| | | | | | DoRight
join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: This IS amazing. It is Kutztown afterall. Did you even live in the 80's? | |
|
| | | | Rexx
join:2002-12-02
Kutztown, PA | wow, kutztownian, I've never been called that.
As for the speeds and price, I have Verizon dsl now but with the removal of most newsgroups I dont think that will last long... | |
|
majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY | hmm I am guessing the problem is money. They probably dont have the money for a big enough conenction to the internet to support giving their subscribers faster speeds. | |
|
Boricua65
Oye, chico
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico
|  Oh so good
--
Yo te digo, el mundo esta jodido | |
|
ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| . I would expect muni-fiber to be slightly more expensive because the municipality has to serve everyone in their geographic boundaries.
OTOH, with the exception of a few token deployments, telecoms often practice redlining and service only lucrative areas.
--
Comcast has spoiled me rotten! | |
|
Selenia
join:2006-09-22
Pittsfield, MA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Has the point been missed? I think this article conveys the viability of fiber as infrastructure for even a town like Kutztown. This kind of infrastructure is not only about speed, but also cost and flexibility. If you're wiring from scratch, fiber infrastructure gives more than the alternatives dollar for dollar. These rates are really low for a local company wiring for 1 community. We have a local company delivering dsl over Verizon's lines(but with their own CO). $60 a month and a $175 install charge nets you 1.5 mbit down, 384 kbit up. oh, and you have to buy your own modem. They don't do loaners. | |
|
|
| Selenia
join:2006-09-22
Pittsfield, MA
·RoadRunner Cable
edit:
July 9th, @11:11AM
| Re: love the FUD lol since when have ISP ads ever made intelligent claims(some of Time Warner's and Comcast's are just beautiful /sarcasm)? What really matters to us is that fiber can carry more bandwidth load(though many underestimate high quality coax). The velocity factor would be not perceptible by human beings, or even online games.
quote:
Our FTTH has built in "intelligence" to control the balance of Internet bandwidth
PS-Nice way of saying you use traffic shaping(although it's not always an evil thing, like some ISPs' implementations)? | |
|
| |
| | 
odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs: | Re: love the FUD second link about refractive index of light in a given medium. | |
|
chrisoverly
@mchsi.com
| Give the company a break Personally I would love a 3.0 upload speed, as the max I can get here is a 1.5 with SDSL that would cost me $250 a month, and even then it is not guaranteed.... and I pay $60 a month for 6 Mb down and 512 kbps up.... I would gladly pay $80 for a 3.0 upload speed... and sometimes smaller ISP's cannot afford
the backhauls for higher speeds, the big guys can because they have millions that float around doing nothing... perhaps that is why this company does not offer higher speeds... give the little guy a break, nobody even needs a 3.0 upload speed yet... and if you do you are more than likely running a server.... | |
|
| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Fredericksburg, TX | Re: Give the company a break Or uploading photos to a photo sharing site, in full-blown glory. Heck, even high quality JPEGS on a 7 megapixel camera take FOREVER to upload...on a T1-powered WiFi hotspot! I'd pay extra for 1, 2, 3 or 5 Mbit upload if I could get it. | |
|
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Wake me up 2000/128 for $80 while subs on fios get 20000/20000 for $65.
Hmmmmmm. * y a w n *
--
When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
|
slayerd59
@metrocast.net | Kutztown more than 500 residents Kutztown may have only around 5,000 permanent residents but when college is in it soars to over 20,000. And those students want/need higher d/l and u/l than that. | |
|
|
|
|
Fiber To The Home In Kutztown, PA
