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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
02101 | Re: Economy will slow down Fios rollout Ding. Smart man. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Economy will slow down Fios rollout There is not $20 FIOS internet plan, like there is with DSL. Sorry, Verizon sees ultra cheap DSL as only a temporary solution to get the most profit out of old equipment before it goes bye bye when FIOS comes (you can't order Verizon DSL once FIOS is turned on, business decision by Verizon). | |
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Tzale
Ron Paul 2008 - Proud Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
NJ, USA
 ·Verizon FIOS
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| said by TK Junk Mail  :With people spending less, Verizon will see less revenue, which will impact how much money can be used for capital expansion. I expect that Verizon, for the time being, will slow down their whole rollout plan. Hmmm, that is an educated guess... Though I think FIOS is sort of exempt from that... People won't go out and buy new cars or go on vacations, but most people already have some sort of TV service / broadband service and the FIOS triple play pricing is attractive and much cheaper than Cable TV if you are switching from Cable to FIOS..
I know I am saving over $60/month for 2 years by having switched to FIOS over having service through the cable company... And service quality is much better, plus I get a free TV. 
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Tzale
Ron Paul 2008 - Proud Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
NJ, USA
·Verizon FIOS
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| Re: Economy will slow down Fios rollout said by chakey :said by Tzale : plus I get a free TV. You hope! Why should I hope?
I got this letter a few weeks ago and a bunch of people have already received the TV.
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Tzale
Ron Paul 2008 - Proud Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
NJ, USA
·Verizon FIOS
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| Re: Economy will slow down Fios rollout said by chakey : said by Tzale :Why should I hope? I was supposed to get one, however, due to many billing errors, I'm still working on it. Since you got the letter, you are good to go! Congratulations! Verizon billing sucks... But there service is IMHO, high quality.. It can't be beat.
This is why I recommend people purchase the service online and make no changes until after installation. Otherwise, you have to deal with the billing bullshit. Verizon really needs to do something about that.
-Tzale
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Neoconservatives (G.W.B) are not real conservatives. A conservative believes in defending the Constitution. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - RON PAUL 2008 »www.usconstitution.net/const.html
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| cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| i wouldn't think so much since there FIOS is more like a service than a product (continually payments vs. one time large purchases). depending on how bad the economy slows down and how desperate people need more money, my guess is that internet access will be determine how slow the revenue will be. i wouldn't be surprised if wall street has more to do with reducing capital expansion than revenue impact. from what i've seen, FIOS is a pretty good deal. | |
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY
| NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy VZ so far has not indicated any revenue hits because of the so-called 'slow down". No installation slowdown has been hinted at either. It is the politicians as usual that is holding things up. The Pols are the usual 'command and control" types who want their hands on it (and hands out for it). | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy They have to touch the money, savoring every billion ... | |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy So i guess the whitehouse owns verizon? | |
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join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA | Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy Other way around. | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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January 23rd, @06:19PM
| said by brooklynman4 :So i guess the whitehouse owns verizon? NY City is not the Whitehouse, it's much more provincial.
I'm picturing the mayor and his hot intern on one side of the table, V reps on the other side holding superbowl tickets and sneaking strippers into the room.
On the table are stacks of cash that the mayor keeps jumping into and throwing wads into the air in glee.
He lets each of the district representatives come in, one at a time, so they can jump in the cash too.
Disclaimer; this post is pure fiction created by a cynical imagination.
This part isn't, in CA the Brown Act is supposed to protect us from these kind of things, but our city's have also subverted the public interest ;»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Act#···nactment
"In enacting this chapter, the Legislature finds and declares that the public commissions, boards and councils and the other public agencies in this State exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business. It is the intent of the law that their actions be taken openly and that their deliberations be conducted openly.
"The people of this State do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people insist on remaining informed so that they may retain control over the instruments they have created."
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join:2007-08-19
| Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy said by gaforces :Disclaimer; this post is pure fiction created by a cynical imagination. Not nearly cynical enough. You forgot the free blow, booze, hand jobs, lap dances and rolling around in the money naked and lubed. A veritable orgy of sex, drugs, booze and cash. The next day these very same KY cowboys politicians will put on a suit and tie all respectable-like and talk about "family values." | |
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join:2006-01-03
New York, NY
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| Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back! | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | There is a fine line between vulgarity and cynicism, I try to stay above the line most time.
Your post has clearly dropped way below that line, thus detracting from the message. | |
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join:2007-08-19
| Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy said by gaforces :There is a fine line between vulgarity and cynicism, I try to stay above the line most time. Your post has clearly dropped way below that line, thus detracting from the message. 100% your opinion not necessarily accurate. | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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| Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy Of course 
By having secret meetings, any kind of wild rumors can circulate about what happened there. I'm sure there are a lot worse things being said about them. | |
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| said by garmst :VZ so far has not indicated any revenue hits because of the so-called 'slow down". No installation slowdown has been hinted at either. It is the politicians as usual that is holding things up. The Pols are the usual 'command and control" types who want their hands on it (and hands out for it). That's because the results for this quarter, the quarter in which the economy started to slide, are not out yet. Your statement is based on insufficient information. | |
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join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | Re: NY City politicians will slow down FIOS mor than economy As I said, there is no indication of a slowdown. The assumption that there must be has no basis. If there is a general slowdown, which is not the case, not all companies or sectors of the economy are affected equally. | |
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join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY | So nyc will get fios tv before town of babylon? So this means that nyc will get fios tv before the town of babylon does? | |
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join:2002-12-04
USA | Re: midwest ? They're already there in Indiana... | |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Why is FIOS TV Franchise blocking FIOS Phone/Internet? The subject says it all. They are talking to the City about a FIOS TV Franchise but I fail to see what the lack of this Franchise TODAY has to do with rolling out FIOS itself (ie: The use of FIOS to deliver Phone and Internet with the TV being "Coming Soon" once the Franchise is granted). It seems to me that the refusal to roll out FIOS NOW is a bargaining chip to get the TV Franchise (ie: Give us the Franchise or we will not offer any FIOS). | |
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| Re: Why is FIOS TV Franchise blocking FIOS Phone/Internet? The article claims that FiOS Internet is being rolled out in several areas- Staten Island, for one. The question is the TV franchise.
I've noticed that Verizon is somewhat duplicitous about the franchises- in my hometown they offer only Internet, and when I asked when TV was coming, they said to lobby the local municipality- the town government has already sent several requests to Verizon to apply for a TV license, they haven't done it yet (probably waiting for "franchise reform") | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| Pro-Government Goals Achieved For those who want government heavy-handedness to be intertwined with broadband connectivity, I submit that the mess in NYC regarding FIOS is the ultimate result of this meddling. The government of NYC has succeeded in its effort to ensure an equal level of service to everyone, even if that level of service is 0.
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Pro-Government Goals Achieved The key word is revenue. | |
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join:2006-09-18
Nashua, NH
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| Better the level of service be ZERO than it be unfair. Isn't that the american way? Better 1000 crooks go free than 1 innocent man convicted. That's why the scales of justice are not even.
Granted, that's not the real reason. The real reason is corrupt politicians, but the end result is the same. Force verizon to live up a standard, or don't let them roll it out at all. Remember what they did to the state of PA, where they got tax breaks of billions and billions, and failed to deliver. Why should NYC cave into the profit motives of Verizon.
Verizon is NOT BEING STOPPED from offering FIOS. They ARE being stopped from offering TV over FIOS until they come up with a 'fair and balanced' plan to roll it out to EVERYONE in the city (ironic I can quote FOX on that).
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: Pro-Government Goals Achieved Verizon should do like ATT, set up an IPTV subsidiary and set up an exclusive bandwidth agreement, then go running around with the case law that ATT has made for Uverse. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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| Nail right on the head! This guy knows what he is talking about....
"Any large carrier with a cap below 100 gigabytes and a price above $30 is abusing market power. Their bandwidth costs are less than the marketing budget, and the customer is profitable.
I believe Time Warner's interest in bandwidth caps has little to do with its own costs and a lot to do with the emergence of movie downloads and streaming television programs over the internet. "The smart people at Time Warner are scared of people watching TV directly over the internet. 'Lost' and 'Desperate Housewives' look better over the internet than they do on digital cable."
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Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ
| Re: Nail right on the head! TWC is also scared of things like appleTV and iTunes movies hurting their on demand service, sure VOD is instant but you could basicly order on itunes before leaving for work that day and even full DVD quality would be done by the time you got home from the office. and i bet VOD makes them a ton of money since cost of deliver is nearly zero.
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| tw_backlash Maybe there will be some backlash over Time Warner starting to put in download caps down in Texas. Would be nice to see them lose customers in NY over that idea, that and the piss poor bandwidth they give to metro NY. Time Warner commercials seem to make much 'light' about Verizon not having a video franchise in it's footprint. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: tw_backlash Havent seen anything about TWC commercials talking about Verizon TV in NYC. Have seen the FUDing of FTTP ones tho. | |
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@rr.com | Re: tw_backlash Have you heard about.....
the FIBER?????....????!
Not in my town..Fresh Meadows, NY (Queens/NYC) | |
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contsole
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join:2003-12-30
Bloomfield, CT | Closed Door Years ago, when the City Council and cable company in my home town had a closed door meeting about cable rates - rates went up and all the members of city council got free cable. | |
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