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@rr.com | It's Grand Central Terminal. Not Station. Just an FYI. | |
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@verizon.net | Re: It's Grand Central Terminal. Not Station. Maybe they are really going to Grand Central Station (across the street) | |
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join:2005-10-18
Phoenix, AZ | But Will they fulfill this promise or reneg on it... I would hope fulfill | |
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join:2000-10-28
| Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? I don't understand why anyone is excited about FiOS TV. Verizon has already made it clear they will charge more money than the satellite TV providers and very close to the obscene cable TV provider levels.
The real action, of course, is FiOS Internet.
2014 for both homes and business throughout NYC is going to be a very, very big deal.
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join:2002-08-26
New York, NY
clubs: | Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? At this point, I don't care if I have to pay a bit extra than what I am right now. Service around here stinks from Time Warner.
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? I left cable TV behind long ago. And while cable TV service is about as bad as it always was, Time Warner and Earthlink have shown no interest at all in competing with FiOS Internet on price or speed (even when asked), so again I think FiOS Internet is a very exciting proposition for homes and businesses in NY.
You would not believe what Time Warner charges for low speed business cable Internet.
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? said by B  :You would not believe what Time Warner charges for low speed business cable Internet. -- B Is someone interested in a T1 with no SLA for the same price as a T1 with an SLA? | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| FiOS TV touts superior image quality- having switched from Comcast, it's certainly noticeable in my opinion, though of course local conditions are everything.
The internet is the big thing for the average BBR user and the biggest distinguishing factor from cable, but to Verizon Corporate, it's all about entering the TV business... | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? Which is fine for them. But they are charging top dollar, and I don't see why any actual consumer would be remotely inclined to jump ship unless they REALLY hated their cable company. Have you seen how FiOS implements TV? It's really rather a flimsy affair what with its dependency on cheap and flaky router connections.
It's nice that there's some competition with incumbent cablecos for TV (especially if you can't use satellite) but the "value proposition" for FiOS TV, in complete contrast to that of FiOS Internet, just isn't there. All in my opinion, of course.  I'm glad you like your service...
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? One thing Verizon does have is the whole-home DVR, which they're only able to do because of their "flimsy" implementation... cable companies for now can't match it. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? Oh I've tried it. I wouldn't comment if I hadn't. All the various cheesy routers they've deployed for FiOS are scarily "lowest bidder" affairs, particularly the models with coax connectors for TV. And on the LAN side I don't understand why more people aren't complaining about the electrically loose and wobbly RJ-45 ports that seem to be standard issue on some models.
We've already run into the hard limits on number of POTS lines, TVs, etc. (some more a function of the ONT and the network than the router though, I think).
This doesn't even touch on the well documented incompatibilities with VoIP, the forced firmware upgrades even when auto-updates are "off", etc.
If they work, great, but to terminate such a great network with such pieces of lowest-bidder outsourced crap is sad.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Who Cares about the TV Service Anyway? From what I've heard, it's because of the MoCA connection, at the time Actiontec was the only one making MoCA and WiFi routers so they had they didn't have much a choice. (Or they could get new set-top boxes with an ethernet connection, and rewire every single house with cat-5e, but I doubt that'd be cost-effective) | |
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join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
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| It completes their data service offering, thus allowing them nearly full control over how they service their communication market.
The positives are that they can offer anything, including TV, without having to pow-tow to some weirdo about it; they're simply allowed to do it. Thus, they can now offer it to you for $1,000 for all channels in 1 year or $100,000 per month per channel or $100 per day per group of channels or $1 per year for absolutely everything or whatever they want. The point is, regardless of whether there is any decent TV to deliver to you, they can do it, so if there is something to send you, and you want it, perhaps they can make a deal with you.
The negative is that there isn't much competition, so what they choose to do with their ability is something that you'd have to negotiate very strongly with to get it into a position you want. Considering how big The Phone Company is compared to the average customer, that can offer some resistance to the customer. Many give up and take an attitude of looking at what They Offer, and then redefine "offer" to mean "final offer". For many, that offer being final may even be the case.
So, perhaps it isn't a big deal to you, but it is to the general market position of the company, and it makes sense that they made full implementation contingent upon full range of data delivery. Now that they've passed that hurdle, let's hope TV transforms into something useful for the customers. | |
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@jillyred.net | B, just cause u don't care about fios tv does not mean others don't. it's an added option to those in manhattan that can't get satellite and are sick of time warner cable. and the will have 100 hd channels. | |
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join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA | They don't use hyper-compressed images, and their signal doesn't freak out in weather.
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Ron Paul - I Didn't Vote For Either
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NJ, USA | . Why not the Port Authority Bus Terminal?  | |
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join:2005-01-18 | Re: . Homeless persons urine affects the TV signal. | |
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Princeton Junction, NJ
clubs: | What's so bad about Port Authority? | |
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join:2005-01-18 | Re: . said by NickD :What's so bad about Port Authority? What isnt? | |
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Bobcat
1.20.09 - The End of an Error
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | Grand Central TERMINAL Can't you read a simple press release? It says "Grand Central Terminal" four - count 'em - four times. It's in plain English.
Grand Central Station is a post office. | |
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join:2006-12-28
Union City, NJ
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July 27th, @04:20AM
| Yawn Who gives a flying f*ck? They're advertising service most people can't get anyway so what the f*ck is the point? City by wired by 2014? LMAO. With Verizon's redlining and the bureaucratic bull$hit that goes along with it, I wouldn't be surprised the city wasn't complete until 2020! And I wouldn't be surprised if certain areas like the South Bronx and East New York, Brooklyn never get it!
Cablevision is far from perfect but at least they dont redline and it sure beats the hell outta Comcrap and Time Warner! I never experienced any throttling on my connection nor was I capped either. My speeds have also been consistent as well so those bitching about problems with OOL are full of shit. They're just falling for the hype due to a 'new' product. That's all. It's the out with the old in with the new syndrome.
I seen FIOS in action and it's nothing to get excited over honestly. The only thing I'd say was better was the GUI interface used for their TV service. But the speeds were identical to OOL. Those saying FIOS is faster again are so full of shit. It was the same damn thing as OOL's Boost service | |
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A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY
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| Re: Yawn Glad to hear that OOL works for you. However, in other parts of their service footprint, they suck rhino balls. So please shut up. And the only reason cablecos were able to buildout this much is b/c they essentially got a guaranteed monopoly from the local gov't. A monopoly that, after ~ 30 yrs, is being broken up by the deployment of FiOS. And THAT is what has their (the Cableco's) panties in a bunch......... | |
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FiOS Hits Grand Central Station On Monday
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