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Magically ties network neutrality to Fairness Doctrine...
09:41AM Friday Aug 15 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: fcc · Op/Ed · net-neutrality
Former telecom lobbyist turned FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell has been on a bit of a tear the last year. First he declared that America really has no broadband coverage issues, followed by claims that the Internet would collapse if Comcast was held accountable for throttling upstream P2P traffic and lying to customers. His latest gem involves the Commissioner claiming that support for network neutrality will lead to the return of the "fairness doctrine," a highly-criticized former FCC policy that demanded "honest, equitable, and balanced" coverage of issues:
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"This [presidential] election, if it goes one way, we could see a reimposition of the Fairness Doctrine...I think it’ll be intertwined into the net-neutrality debate...and I think the fear is that somehow, large corporations will censor their content, their points of view. I think the bigger concern for them should be if you have government dictating content policy -- which, by the way, would have a big First Amendment problem -- then whoever’s in charge of government is going to determine what is ‘fair’ under a so-called Fairness Doctrine."
Of course network neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with the Fairness Doctrine, a policy long ago shot down by the Supreme Court which was impossible to enforce anyway. And despite McDowell's assertion, neither candidate supports the Fairness Doctrine. But the idea that enforcing network neutrality will result in the rebirth of hated policies helps McDowell paint a very scary picture of net neutrality on behalf of AT&T and Comcast.

Perhaps more useful than the Fairness Doctrine would be a law requiring that FCC Commissioners be technologists and visionaries instead of partisan lobbyists?

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RayW
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Never happen

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Perhaps more useful than the Fairness Doctrine would be a law requiring that FCC Commissioners be technologists and visionaries instead of partisan lobbyists?
Politicians do not like us, we (as a group) do not get caught up in the lies that most professional politicians live with day in and day out but instead call things like they are. That is like bringing flood lights to a seance.
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Re: Never happen

said by RayW See Profile :

... we (as a group) do not get caught up in the lies that most professional politicians live with day in and day out but instead call things like they are.
heheh.. that's pretty funny for a Friday.

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Perhaps more useful than the Fairness Doctrine would be a law requiring that FCC Commissioners be technologists and visionaries instead of partisan lobbyists?
Yes, that will work. A government agency that doesn't care about costs or taxes or what the people want, but just wants the best broadband internet that taxpayer money can buy.
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Re: Never happen

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

Yes, that will work. A government agency that doesn't care about costs or taxes or what the people want, but just wants the best broadband internet that taxpayer money can buy.
well, the current FCC sure as hell doesn't give a sh1t what "the people" want.

the current FCC also seems not to care about costs or taxes given what "the people" are charged for inferior broadband and that the telcos/cablecos are allowed to pass along any taxes and even make some up that they can charge for.

all in all, I'd say we are already the way you describe.

what's being asked for is people to execute the charter of the FCC, not posture for political or monetary gain or push a personal or party agenda.

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Enough said
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Re: Never happen

Efficient? just sufficient!!!

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Success

McDowell has served his party well. Always climbing the ladder of success. Proudly representing was has made America great these past eight years.

Oh yes, he was (legal) counsel to the Bush-Cheney Florida Recount Team in 2000. Thank god.

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Re: Success

That's funny, Martin was on the recount team as well.

It looks like they were paid off well for their service to the Bush-Cheney ticket.

Now we have the same strategy that Bush-Cheney used to sell the war, tell lies to support their agenda.
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Blockbuster

Blockbuster does censor their content today.
From what I have read, Blockbuster movies are edited to meet blockbuster standards. I don't know what those standards are.

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August 15th, @10:19AM

Re: Blockbuster

Despite rumors, blockbuster doesn't edit movies, they just refuse to carry any movie over an R rating.

EDIT: Probably part of the reason netflix is beating them at their own game.
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August 15th, @10:38AM

It's Wal*Mart that only sells movies edited for content.

They also edit music CD's.

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Re: Blockbuster

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said by b10010011 See Profile :

It's Wal*Mart that only sells movies edited for content.
Just because it's Friday, I'll poke playfully at you and point out that it's now been changed from "WAL*MART" to "Walmart*".
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rubbish

I think this guy is an idiot, but I think it's obvious to everyone with half a retarded brain cell that Obama would sign into law the fairness doctrine of given half a chance.

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Ugh...

I'm so tired of hearing how so called free market economic policies are better for the consumer and that somehow Govt. intervention of any kind is always anti-consumer. Well, from where I sit as a consumer the so called free market economy has made things worse for me (increasing rates, less competition and deteriorating customer service). While it sounds nice in theory, IMO free market economic policies only benefit one group of people in this country, the rich and powerful. Such policies enable them to manipulate things more to their favor so that they can become even more rich and powerful.
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Re: Ugh...

You miss one key point--the "rich and powerful" use government all the time to prevent entry and stifle competition.

The problem isn't that we have too little government, but rather far too much of it.. In a genuine free market, one without artificial entry barriers and tightly regulated business practices, we might actually have some genuine competition. Unfortunately, every time somebody says "we need a new law," corporations think of ways to use that law to enhance profits at the expense of freedom.

Having trouble besting a competitor? Brand them a "natural monopoly" and push the FTC to stop them from getting any bigger.

Worried about your business model falling behind? Easy. Make up some public interest rhetoric so the FCC will encumber the airwaves with rules that benefit your bottom line.
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Re: Ugh...

said by jaminus See Profile :

In a genuine free market, one without artificial entry barriers and tightly regulated business practices, we might actually have some genuine competition.
And therein lies the problem. We have no free markets. All markets are under control of the rich and powerful. Sometimes they use Government as a tool, sometimes why use other means, but no real competition is possible. To have free markets we would have to severely restrain the ability of the rich and powerful to control the markets. So, IMHO, the Free Market is just an illusion.

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cross your fingers

obama YOU HOPE WOULD SIGN INTO LAW.......

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Hack attack...

said by partisan hack Karl Bode See Profile :

Perhaps more useful than the Fairness Doctrine would be a law requiring that FCC Commissioners be technologists and visionaries instead of partisan lobbyists?
The president and/or the ruling party control much of the bureaucracy; that's the way it is. The dems under Clinton had their turn, the repubs under Bush had their turn. Geez...I almost forgot...everything will be perfect and Washington DC will be partisan and corruption free under an Obama administration.
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Re: Hack attack...

Please look up the definition of a "strawman argument".

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Re: Hack attack...

said by EPS See Profile :

Please look up the definition of a "strawman argument".
A fine example of the strawman argument is Karl's article/OpEd.
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Re: Hack attack...

said by drslash See Profile :

A fine example of the strawman argument is Karl's article/OpEd.
Please explain how Karl's OpEd is a straw man argument.

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Re: Hack attack...

said by funchords See Profile :

said by drslash See Profile :

A fine example of the strawman argument is Karl's article/OpEd.
Please explain how Karl's OpEd is a straw man argument.
I won't spoon feed when it is in front of everyone to see for themselves and form their opinion about it.
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No such thing as a "perfect economy".

Pure market forces only work without intervention in a "perfect economy." But there is no such thing. Therefore, some government regulations will ALWAYS be required. This is straight out of Economics 101.

There is no question that there can be too many regulations. It is a balancing act and not always an easy one.

After reading McDowell's comments he appears to be a total idiot that spews FUD instead of truly informed ideas.

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Prove it

"The Internet would collapse if Comcast was held accountable for throttling upstream P2P traffic and lying to customers."

PROVE IT!
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Fairness Doctrine

Wait a sec... the fairness doctrine was what?:

"a highly-criticized former FCC policy that demanded "honest, equitable, and balanced" coverage of issues"

What?! It most definitely was NOT that. The fairness doctrine didn't affect things like news coverage, nor did it have anything to do with an 'honest' coverage of anything. It simply required that all radio stations give the same time to opposing view points. If you put on a show with a right-leaning slant, the fairness doctrine required that you give the same amount of time to a left-leaning voice. That left-leaning voice didn't have to talk at all about the issues that the right-leaning voice did (hence the idea of 'balance' is simply silly).

I can't imagine much that's more un-American than the fairness doctrine. It was an abridgement of freedom of expression - no more, and no less. The only reason that liberals want it back is because they can't seem to get a foot-hold in talk radio. It's not enough that they have virtually every news room, most papers (including those with the largest circulation), and most major 'news' magazines. They can't make their drivel palatable to a radio audience, so the left thinks it's a-ok to simply squash that speech.
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August 16th, @04:07PM

Re: Fairness Doctrine

said by JPL See Profile :

Wait a sec... the fairness doctrine was what?:

"a highly-criticized former FCC policy that demanded "honest, equitable, and balanced" coverage of issues"

What?! It most definitely was NOT that. The fairness doctrine didn't affect things like news coverage, nor did it have anything to do with an 'honest' coverage of anything. It simply required that all radio stations give the same time to opposing view points. If you put on a show with a right-leaning slant, the fairness doctrine required that you give the same amount of time to a left-leaning voice. That left-leaning voice didn't have to talk at all about the issues that the right-leaning voice did (hence the idea of 'balance' is simply silly).

I can't imagine much that's more un-American than the fairness doctrine. It was an abridgement of freedom of expression - no more, and no less. The only reason that liberals want it back is because they can't seem to get a foot-hold in talk radio. It's not enough that they have virtually every news room, most papers (including those with the largest circulation), and most major 'news' magazines. They can't make their drivel palatable to a radio audience, so the left thinks it's a-ok to simply squash that speech.
NO! The Fairness Doctrine was put in place back in 1949 as a response to President F.D. Roosevelt's "Fireside Chats" which frequently were nothing but partisan rhetoric. They also helped him get elected to four presidential terms.

Roosevelt learned early on the power of mass media. He used it to manipulate public opinion, etc.

That said, I actually oppose the Fairness Doctrine. I believe it's an intrusion of free speech.

However, anyone who believes that the media has a liberal bias today should also believe in Peter Pan! I work in the media and fact is, the media is HEAVILY BIASED in the CONSERVATIVE direction, both in what they DO report, but even more by what they DO NOT report!

They SPIN things to make the public believe in "The liberal media", when the fact is that most major broadcast companies and networks today are owned by big corporations with big time connections to the Republican party.
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August 16th, @03:57PM

In other news...

In other news, FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell said there is no recession, $4.00 gas prices really don't exist and that the tooth fairy will be leaving every American a thousand dollar bill under their pillow next Sunday night.

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Re: In other news...

said by qworster See Profile :

In other news, FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell said there is no recession, $4.00 gas prices really don't exist and that the tooth fairy will be leaving every American a thousand dollar bill under their pillow next Sunday night.
Because we can't afford dental insuranc?
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