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kudos:5 | Re: You forgot two.. said by Simba7:The NSA and CIA. You know they want to see anything and everything that happens through the Internet.
And the story neglected to mention the RCMP of Canada that voiced the same concerns in the linked story.
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Royal Canadian Mounted Police Staff Sgt. Marc Moreau offered a similar prediction: "We're hoping that people in the community seize the opportunity to work and to have that self-regulation, because, if not, if all of the different governments then get involved, it could get uglier."
Accurate IPv6 record-keeping does more than help law enforcement. It's useful for combating abuse. It's useful for anti-spam measures. It's useful for figuring out what's going on with distributed denial of service attacks. And it's useful for civil litigants.
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Billings, MT | Re: You forgot two.. said by inteller:when the government is worrying that's when you know your freedoms are safe. Ain't that the truth. I remember when the government was freaking about PGP. | |
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Netcong, NJ | said by Simba7:The NSA and CIA. You know they want to see anything and everything that happens through the Internet.
Think Google Fiber; Google TOS. | |
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Purchasing large quantities of weapons and armor is legal in the United States and there are many people who do it.
Holmes' behavior was no more suspicious than the typical behavior of a southerner. The problem is that we live in a society where owning a lot of guns is not suspicious. | |
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| | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? If almost all gun owners don't commit crimes, not holding them in suspicion makes perfect sense. Your "problem" is logic.
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Evanston, IL | he didn't own "a lot of guns". He owned a few guns. | |
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Los Angeles, CA | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? To hoplophobes, anyone having more than one gun is "possessing an arsenal". Anyone having more than one magazine's worth of cartridges is guilty of having a "massive ammunition pile". If books were considered just as vile in someone else's eyes, than my bookshelf is "a monstrous repository of propaganda". | |
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Evanston, IL | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? well said | |
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Why don't you go back to being a brony and let a real man speak. | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? said by Metatron2008:So we usually carry loads of guns into movie theaters now? Not exactly what he meant.
How do people know if the guns were props or not? | |
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| | | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? How do they know if they were prop guns?
The sound of a prop gun is nowhere close to the sound of the real thing.
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Billings, MT | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? said by battleop:The sound of a prop gun is nowhere close to the sound of the real thing. I meant the look of it. Some of them look rather authentic, except they don't actually fire.
The guy in Aurora is an exception. | |
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Evanston, IL | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Some prop guns are just modified real guns. | |
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| said by 09129800:Holmes' behavior was no more suspicious than the typical behavior of a southerner. The problem is that we live in a society where owning a lot of guns is not suspicious.
i dont consider that a problem. It keeps our government honest.
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| | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? You think the United States government is honest?
Your signature is very appropriate.
said by Metatron2008:So we usually carry loads of guns into movie theaters now?
How would magical spying powers on this guy's online purchases have detected that he was going to carry loads of guns into a movie theater through the back door? | |
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kudos:8 | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Dupe. | |
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kudos:8 | said by 09129800:You think the [...] government is honest? Not in pre-Revolutionary War times. Good thing the colonists had guns, lots of them. | |
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kudos:7 | said by 09129800:James Holmes did nothing illegal prior to the massacre. How many of the 9/11 hijackers, OKC bomber, or many other individuals who committed single acts of terror hadn't done anything illegal prior? | |
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Troy, NY | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? So do we start arresting all the people who haven't done anything illegal?
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Princeton Junction, NJ | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? The majority of people in this country have a clean criminal record (besides speeding and parking tickets). Can't suspect everyone. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Confidentiality has been a part of the Doctor/patient relationship long before HIPPA came along. Unless Holmes had told his doctor he intended to harm himself or others, there was little the Doctor could have done. Only an "involuntary commitment" would have flagged him in the instant check system. From what I read in the press, the materials he mailed to his Doctor outlining his plans weren't discovered until after the crime took place.
The involuntary commitment standard is pretty high in most jurisdictions and is tantamount to incarcerating someone for up to 72 hours without Judicial review. I can see some people saying anyone under the care of a mental health professional should now be flagged in the instant check system. This would be the worse thing we could do. Doing so would stigmatize anyone who seeks help for mental health issues and push people away from needed treatment.
The fact is incidents like this have been happening since the invention of the modern ammunition cartridge. Except nowadays, they receive more attention with the 24 hour news cycle and a politicaly motivated press.
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| | | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Yeah, but how well was the doctor performing? If the guy was a schizophrenic she should have noticed, and should have known that he was inevitably going to have severe problems without medication, and should have followed up, instead of being "too buy" collecting fees all day. Just because psychiatrists have a 0% cure rate, doesn't mean they have no responsibility for patient outcomes. | |
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Why should we be suspicious of someone who decides that they want to own "a lot" of guns? I personally don't see any problem with that. | |
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Princeton Junction, NJ | There are a lot of people who would purchase a large quantity of weapons and ammo for use by others: private security companies, police departments, hunters, etc. There are a lot more of those people than there are terrorists like Holmes. | |
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kudos:8 | said by 09129800:James Holmes did nothing illegal prior to the massacre.
Purchasing large quantities of weapons and armor is legal in the United States and there are many people who do it.
Holmes' behavior was no more suspicious than the typical behavior of a southerner. The problem is that we live in a society where owning a lot of guns is not suspicious.
What's wrong with "owning a lot of guns"?
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| | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Hell yes I am. | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? You're turning into a troll. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Troll: Internet code word for "I disagree with your opinion." | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? said by 09129800:Troll: Internet code word for "I disagree with your opinion."
You and I both clearly disagree with each other's opinions, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But, what you are also saying is that we are both trolls. Would you like to change your statement? | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Where was these AH's when it came to James Holmes? Nope.
Per Internet logic, we are both in fact trolls. Trolls trolling trolls. | |
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Pleasant Hill, MO | No, its to protect the mpaa and riaa. Screw the people who were murdered! The mpaa and riaa are far more important.
Granted his college is probably more at fault, he wrote a letter to a teacher telling him what he was gonna do over a week before he did it, the letter sat in the college mail room(undelivered) until after the shooting from what I hear. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | If I am not mistaken the TV has also mentioned his online profile was pretty slim outside of things like buying ammo. So unlike some of these school shootings there was no brag on Facebook first.
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Washington, DC | ARIN Policy Couldn't ARIN just work on policy that requires block holders to update all their abuse contact information per dues paid (yearly). | |
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kudos:7 | Re: ARIN Policy They already do (and have for decades.) But it's not well inforced, or inforcable for that matter. | |
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[0123]:[4567]:[89AB]:[CDEF]:[FEDC:BA98:7654:3210]
There. Happy? | |
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Evanston, IL | Re: Then... how about this? but that would only work for about 10 years. | |
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kudos:7 | Re: Then... how about this? Dude, that doesn't even work now. Physical (real world) address and internet address have next to nothing to do with each other.
And as we all know, an IP address is not a person. | |
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It could work but we all know ARIN isn't going to go to the trouble of doing it. | |
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14225-2105 | great...now PDs will have to be logged Since IPv4 and v6 will have to go through the same point (such as a router) for years to come, every time my router executes DHCPv6 for a PD for my internal network, that'll be logged...for them. It's not that I have anything to hide or want to shirk any responsibility, but still...as the article mentions (or at least implies), it seems all these authorities want to do is erode my Fourth Amendment rights. First they came for the communists, then the trade unionists,...
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: great...now PDs will have to be logged said by rchandra:Since IPv4 and v6 will have to go through the same point (such as a router) for years to come, every time my router executes DHCPv6 for a PD for my internal network, that'll be logged...for them. It's not that I have anything to hide or want to shirk any responsibility, but still...as the article mentions (or at least implies), it seems all these authorities want to do is erode my Fourth Amendment rights. First they came for the communists, then the trade unionists,...
And then the terrorists... And now they are after a far more devious person... the file sharing pirate...
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kudos:8 | Only the honest or stupid ... WHOIS???? lol
Only honest people and stupid criminals use real information and US registrars when registering domains. Smart criminals use stolen credit/debit cards and fake information to register VIA overseas registrars in countries with limited cooperation with EU and US law enforcement. | |
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join:2012-03-25 | Re: Only the honest or stupid ... said by EGeezer:WHOIS???? lol
Only honest people and stupid criminals use real information and US registrars when registering domains. Smart criminals use stolen credit/debit cards and fake information to register VIA overseas registrars in countries with limited cooperation with EU and US law enforcement.
that's it right there!. also, they use proxy chains and tor, secure tunnels, etc. to acces the internet as a user. so what the spy agencies REALLY want to do is keep up with the latest chat from law abiding citizens!. that's all they could do. | |
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