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 |  FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | Re: "Interwebs" that's how you know they are legit. | |
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 vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Can't comment Can't comment now, being capped, but be sure to check back here between the hours of midnight and 5:00 AM. | |
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| | | Re: Can't comment LOL.. good one. | |
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| micwa
join:2009-01-13
Seminary, MS | said by vpoko:Can't comment now, being capped, but be sure to check back here between the hours of midnight and 5:00 AM.
That's funny since the Data Allowance Policy hasn't been in effect since the service launched in March. | |
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|  antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| said by vpoko:Can't comment now, being capped, but be sure to check back here between the hours of midnight and 5:00 AM.
How did you just comment? :P | |
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| | vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Re: Can't comment said by antdude:How did you just comment? :P
D'oh! | |
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| | | antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Can't comment said by vpoko:said by antdude:How did you just comment? :P
D'oh! Busted, Homey.  | |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
·KCH Cable
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| wonder... how well it'll handle the onslaught of people wanting to download tons of crap.
If it were my only connection, I'd find a way to schedule all manner of things during those hours. Updates alone will probably bring the poor bird to its knees. ...can't imagine what a torrent would do, let alone several at once... | |
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| FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | Re: wonder... probably not much. | |
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| | clone
join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN | Re: wonder... I agree. I mean, hey, my Verizon 3G connection handles torrents just fine! | |
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| | | i'v pumped 10 though it back when the DAP was not in effect and it handled it well even got 1MB/s on on of them | |
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| | Good idea. If you have a cap, it sure seems like a good idea to be able to schedule downloads during the a.m. to avoid going over, but I'm sure people will complain about this too... | |
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| | | Re: Two good a deal for all other ISP's to offer! Some mobile companies in other countries do that, just not in the US. | |
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| | | Humm. I've been scheduling my update to happen at 3:00a for the last 10 years. Not sure what kind of system you are using.. a Mac? | |
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|  skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
AA169|170
kudos:2 | Re: The sad part is...... The question is crappy compared to what. No one is going to go SRS over cable HSI. If your alternative is dial-up, what else are you going to do. As "crappy" as it may be, it isn't nearly as crappy as dial-up. | |
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| | | said by buddahbless:FREE???.... Am I not paying you for service in the first place, so this is hardly free. Free as in no charge against your cap.
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·AT&T DSL Service
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
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| Re: The sad part is...... said by footballdude:said by buddahbless:FREE???.... Am I not paying you for service in the first place, so this is hardly free. Free as in no charge against your cap. I understand what you and they are trying to say, however Free is not how it should be described. Bottom line is you the customer are still paying for it one way or another, they would have little to no complaints from me if they would have worded it " unlimited grace periods" or something along those lines but "Free" my good man, it is not.
The devil is always in the details...... | |
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| | | | | Re: The sad part is...... Just because you want to pretend there is only one meaning to the word "free", doesn't make it so.
Their claim is fine, and completely clear to anyone with more than a handful of working brain cells. | |
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| | | so why are you commenting if you don't have the service? | |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Proxy Server? Just connect a proxy server up and have it update between midnight and 5a. For a multiple computer household with a satellite connection, this would make perfect sense.
I'm surprised the CSU/DSU doesn't include a USB port to connect a hard drive (250GB should be enough) so you can cache content locally in the first place. If they were so worried about capacity, wouldn't this make sense? | |
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| | This won't end well It's obvious what's going to happen here. Everyone is going to set up large downloads during these times, so capacity is going to be strained to the breaking point. | |
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| | | Re: This won't end well said by ISurfTooMuch:It's obvious what's going to happen here. Everyone is going to set up large downloads during these times, so capacity is going to be strained to the breaking point.
Not a big deal. The goal is to encourage downloaders to time-shift to the unmetered window, so that interactive users can have a faster connection during the day. | |
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| | | Saturation at night isn't going to affect service quality for most critical customers who operate during the day. | |
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| micwa
join:2009-01-13
Seminary, MS | HughesNet has done it for years. This is nothing new and nothing "bad" is going to happen because of it. | |
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| | | | Re: This won't end well Are you sure the satellite won't get overloaded and fall from the sky? I can say after having both, WildBlue is the better of the pair for sure. I had Hughes back when they were DirecWay and stayed with them up to the end until I couldn't take it anymore and had to jump ship. WildBlue, for what it's worth, has been a definite improvement over the past three years despite their growing pains. | |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Doesn't help with streaming services like Netflix or HBOGo or Hulu Plus or Amazon Prime. None of them have a "download now, watch later" function as far as I know.
It's a start and puts them more competitive with Verizon's HomeFusion that gives you 30 GB for $120. Still they have along way to go. | |
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| | | Re: Doesn't help with streaming services It's a bit of a trade off. More usage compared to HomeFusion, but much more latency. So there is no clear winner. | |
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| | | | Re: Doesn't help with streaming services Not if your a gamer homefusion hands down wins. i play ncaa 13, cod: black ops try that with sat haha. | |
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| | | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Doesn't help with streaming services said by verizonlteda :Not if your a gamer homefusion hands down wins. i play ncaa 13, cod: black ops try that with sat haha.
30 GB doesn't get you much gaming when combined with your other uses too. I wouldn't game with either. | |
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| | | said by BF69:like Netflix or HBOGo or Hulu Plus or Amazon Prime. None of them have a "download now, watch later" function as far as I know. You could rig a caching proxy (start the movie at midnight, immediately pause it, the cache continues to fill, you watch the next evening).
Or, record the movie to your DVR, then watch the next day. | |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Fail Unless this "uncapped" window is subject to throttling, it will be quickly absorbed by the same type of folks who brought down VMUSA's "unlimited" service, intentionally downloading - for the sole purpose of saturating the channel, making the service unusable for everyone else.
I give it six months. | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| This is good... I pity those who only have satellite 'net access, but a meter-free period like this definitely softens the blow. Now folks with exede can actually think about backing up their computers online; it might take awhile to seed the initial backup over a connection that may or may not hit 3 Mbps during the free period, but it's better than not being able to back up due to super-low caps.
As a side note, a connection pulling at 12 Mbps for the full five hours of cap-free time could download 27GB in one night. On the upload side, 3 Mbps over five hours would be 6.75 GB per night. So you can download more in one cap-free period than ViaSat's highest-end package allows in a month...this goes to show how tightly ViaSat is controlling peak capacity, but on the flip side you could actually download more over ViaSat without incurring overage charges than you could on Comcast! | |
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| | Download zone Good move by Viasat. How what will Hughesnet's response be with Gen4? | |
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| | more than 12Mbps.. I took advantage of the Late Night Free Zone. I was getting about 26Mbps. So it works well with me.. downloaded about 15GB in 4 hours. | |
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 mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | So what happens When all those PC's using this service update Windows at 2 - 3AM (depending on your versions default settings) and then everyone the bird from 5AM - 7AM pretty much can't use the internet? Will they remove this?
Or, what happens if they see a huge increase in data usage at those times, and there's no slow down at all? Does this mean that they will up the caps if they realize the bird can handle it? I'm just curious, personally if I were the company, I'd use this as a trial to see, but they probably won't, and instead will just keep adding subscribers until everyone is paying for 12Mbps and only getting 5Mbps..... /sigh
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| jpgrWAR
join:2011-08-18
Clyde, OH | Re: So what happens YA this is awsome I got DSL right know from frontier my sppeds are 1.5 with ping of 34. but Im gonna get exede just for the late night since I work 4- midnight . If I want to download a game or watch some movies I can do it . just unhook and hook. 110 and ten dollars a month luckily I don't pay rent and just utilities . Thank God my dad gave me an acre and I bought my own mobile home . things are working out for me after all | |
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| | bn1221
join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY | Re: So what happens I think for the 110 you speak of you might just get a second DSL line. 2*1.5 on DSL might outpace your "12 mbit" on Excede - i figure will everyone scheduling huge downloads to the FAP free zone the link will be saturated | |
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join:2011-08-18
Clyde, OH | Re: So what happens well i considered that an option but all i get is 1.5 and even if exede is saturated it willo still out pace 1.5 even at 345 m will be good compare to 1.5 speed . But then again you might be right ,but hell I got the money to burn people need to sleep ! | |
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| | Sounds familiar Skyway Internet or skyfx used to do this, they called it midnight madness.
It's nice they offered this, doesn't hurt them but helps people have a reprieve from the cap. | |
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bn1221
join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY | 128Kbs 128K is still faster that dial-up and ISDN. I figure roughly 3 times a 56k modem and up to 2x the speed of ISDN (which is not full duplex so the 64K D channels are used for uplink) | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: 128Kbs and the 128 kbps limit is lifted from 12 Am-5Am. | |
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| | | Sad thing is they say 128 kbs. But it really doesn't function that well. When you are capped and restricted the internet is nigh well unusable. (have had Wildblue and currently on Excede) | |
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| micwa
join:2009-01-13
Seminary, MS | said by bn1221:128K is still faster that dial-up and ISDN. I figure roughly 3 times a 56k modem and up to 2x the speed of ISDN (which is not full duplex so the 64K D channels are used for uplink)
This is from a WB employee on the forum:
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We begin enforcement (slowed speeds) at 100% of data usage. The speeds will drop to 256 kbps and the customer will be notified automatically via email. After an additional .5 GB of use, the speed will be slowed to 128 kbps. Your speed will remain slowed until your monthly billing date, when your usage total will be reset to zero and your speeds will be returned to normal.
You can also get more data with Buy More.
In addition, you will still get normal speeds during the Late Night Free Zone even if your speeds are slowed to 128 kbps during the day.
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