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| Bad soap opera material »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Fumo
"Senator Fumo has represented South Philadelphia's 1st Senatorial District since 1978 when he succeeded Buddy Cianfrani, who had been convicted of racketeering, bribery and obstruction of justice. Fumo was the Democrat ranking Member of the Senate appropriations committee until his federal indictment in February 2007. He also serves on the Communications & Technology, Consumer Protection, Game & Fisheris, Rules, & Urban Affairs & Housing Committees. [3]
In addition to his State Senate work, Fumo is associated with the Philadelphia Law firm of Dilworth Paxson LLP. He was the Chairman of First Penn Bank. The bank was originally founded as Pennsylvania Savings Bank, by his grandfather. Fumo took over control after his father was convicted of bank fraud in 1976. " -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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| Business As Usual In Philly »www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20···comments
It's just another day of business-as-usual in Philly politics. Fumo is the devil and has been extorting money from citizens and businesses for years.
Whelan was a pussy for not coming forward to the FBI when the shakedown began. Willard Rouse, a developer and civic leader, was shaken down by the mob many years ago and he directly went to the FBI who brought down the whole of Philly's crime families. Whelan went to other tainted councilmen to ask what to do when Fumo tried his shakedown and was told to work it out with Fumo. -- Don't blame me...I voted for McCain
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1 edit | Off-topic observation Why is it that when a scandal involves one party, you almost never see party affiliation mentioned in the article? The other party usually is stamped in the first few words in similar reports.
You pretty much can tell the party just by the omission. You guys know what I'm talking about.
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join:2004-03-19 Here | Re: Off-topic observation IIRC Philly was the city that passed a law to get rid of the bottom 2 council members... who just so happened to be 2 of the only 3 members of the minority party. | |
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join:2002-03-27 Northfield, MN | I agree whole heartily. I knew better than to search to see his party affiliation because of what it would show. You and I were correct on his party afflilation. | |
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| Re: Off-topic observation said by Mac Bridger :What does party affiliation matter? Both parties are full of corrupt scumballs. Does it really matter which way they lie to you? We are making a commentary on the media coverage, not the party. You are right, both parties are full of crooks. | |
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| Re: Off-topic observation said by N O Y B :It does not matter, except that it demonstrates the media bias which the media denies. Media bias is not so much about which stories are reported but how they are reported and the inferences made and those omitted, so as to taint the readers view in the direction desired by the media. I recently pointed this out to some co-workers in a local news paper article about a scandal where the politicians political party affiliation was not mentioned until near the end of the article. But when it is the other party which the media is opposed to most of the time, the political affiliation is usually in the first paragraph or even part of the headline. They just have to have that bashing effect. It is sort of like asking a question with the desired answer embeded. For example, so and so did not talk to you about such and such did they? Exactly. The media in general seems to think this "selective fact reporting" bias is okay. Our local paper, the Orlando Sentinel, is particularly bad (way worse than Karl could ever dream to be even in his most biased moments which are rare). They report on the merits, morals, and virtues of building red light cameras every week at least once, yet fail to mention the numerous studies disproving their "safety" despite many comments and emails and letters to the editor notifying them. Every story mentioning a murder does not include a physical description of the suspect unless they are white. They spam the front page with stories about how a light rail train will save Orlando's economy while omitting the fact that many similar projects in the USA fail and the train is likely to be a huge revenue loss (they already spent 300,000 consulting for a name and logo for this train that has yet to see approval from the legislature). I'm not picking on the left-wing biased news agencies either, the Union Tribune in San Diego was pretty bad with "fact omission" bias with a very right-wing political slant to nearly every article.
In general the editors here do a good job of keeping the articles unbiased, although this "fact omission" slant appears from time to time. It's just the way things are in today's times, I guess. I can't really think of a truly neutral news agency for any type of news. | |
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1 edit | Re: Off-topic observationTell you what. Subscribe to a major news paper and start a database to track politician scandal articles and log their party affiliation and how prominently it is revealed in the article.
Within article headline. Lead off sentence of first paragraph. Within first paragraph. etc. Also log which page the article is run on and if it continues to another page and if the party affiliation is buried in a subsequent page.
Report back next year and let us know your findings.
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join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR | Re: Off-topic observation If you want data, go get your own. I have my data. It is not just a theory, it is a fact that I have witnessed many times in person.
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| said by KoolMoe :I would like to see direct examples of this. Here's one.
Remember Mark Foley? Of course you do. He was a Republican. The media made sure the sick things he did in his personal life were national news prior to the 2006 elections.
His replacement, Tim Mahoney, a member of the Democrat party, was accused of giving campaign money to a mistress. While these events were reported in local media in Florida, they did not make national news in most mainstream media outlets. Thankfully, the voters in this district came to their senses and voted this guy out in 2008. -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! | |
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| Dude, come on.
It's the STINK-quirer. Of course it's biased.
I've lived in the Philly area my whole life. Everyone around here knows the Democrat machine runs Philly, and the Republican machine runs Delaware County. Has all my life.
Fumo is a wart on the ass of progress. John Street and his brother belong in Federal prison. Philly has to be one of the most corrupt cities in America.
Pennsylvania is rather corrupt, but I think that's by osmosis. Sharing that long state boundary with New Joisey has it's price... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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| Re: Off-topic observation said by N3OGH :Pennsylvania is rather corrupt, but I think that's by osmosis. LMAO. Who are you kidding - Anything north of Philly and east of Shittsburgh is Alabama comprised of 70% elderly, 25% white trash, and 5% tax payers. That is my professional opinion based on having had the misfortune to have lived in the State for 2 decades. Fortunately I escaped corrupt Philly in favor of San Diego where corruption of public officials is not quite so obvious and dysfunction is not quite so pronounced. -- The Toll
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join:2005-05-17 | Endemic corruption Of course Pennsylvania is known for its corruption. But then, I'm not really aware of any state that's known for its unfailing honour and honesty.
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join:2004-02-23 Winter Park, FL | Re: Endemic corruption I thought the same thing. Why isn't he sharing a cell with Bubba right now? Is he already in deep enough crap to where it won't matter? | |
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Seems like that's the way of all crooks... Madoff comes to mind lately. | |
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| said by Sabre :Of course Pennsylvania is known for its corruption. But then, I'm not really aware of any state that's known for its unfailing honour and honesty. Is there one? NO! -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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| ... I'm reminded of Rodney Dangerfield's character in the movie "Back to School." He plays a comical, well seasoned, and very successful business man who goes back to college. While in a business class he is entertained by the professor's outline of the costs and process of starting a business. Rodney's character goes on to explain what is really involved - containing details like found in Fumo and Verizon's arrangements.  | |
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| trains to nowhere The earlier comment about a ligh rail train reminds me of that episode of the simpsons where homer got a job running the monorail train lol. The whole episode was about how trains like that always fail, if people don't understand that by now then it's incredibly obvious how dumb they are. | |
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