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Dish's Ergen: We've Got 80% Chance of Launching LTE Network
Notes that the Plan's Future Rests in FCC's Hands
Last summer Dish Network made it clear that the company was very seriously interested in launching a wireless network, despite previous executive assurances that the company was accumulating spectrum just for fun. Run from a subsidiary, the company is hoping to launch an LTE-Advanced network under the brand "Ollo." Dish is planning to use the spectrum they acquired from DBSD North America and TerreStar Networks, but is waiting for FCC approval.

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Speaking about the company's earnings today, Dish Network chairman Charlie Ergen stated he thinks the company has roughly an 80% chance of getting their LTE network up and running. Like LightSquared, Dish needs the FCC to grant a waiver on some of the conditions attached to the spectrum they plan to use. Unlike LightSquared, Dish's spectrum holdings won't interfere with GPS technology.

"As we get into that business, I would say we have an 80% chance of success. If so you go full bore and give your best effort," says Ergen. "If by chance we were not granted a waiver or it was kicked down the road without a decision through rulemaking, then I think that we'd have to consider the risk, and at this point, I'd say we probably don't have an 80% chance of success," Ergen said.

Dish is expected to get the FCC waiver, and had previously stated they'd accept some buildout conditions "consistent with FCC precedent and based on the buildout principles established." In Sprint Nextel's combination of its spectrum assets with Clearwire, they were required to offer service to 15 million POPs in four years and 30 million POPs within six years. Tim Farrar at TMF Associates has a pretty good idea what kind of spectrum repositioning Dish's deal with the FCC will entail.

Should Dish get FCC approval, the LTE Advanced equipment for its S-band spectrum they plan to use likely won't even be available until 2015 -- meaning any real Dish LTE network would be several years out. AT&T is lobbying hard to get Dish's build out obligations increased to the point where they'd be unreasonable, which would force Dish to sell the spectrum to AT&T. Dish would at least net the cash from their spectrum holdings, but it would be an unfortunate event given the death of LightSquared and the tenuous footing of other AT&T Verizon would-be competitors like Clearwire.

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BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Yeah right

The barriers to entry are very large. It's highly unlikely that they would ever offer very much coverage, and the spectrum would largely go to waste.

Verizon can do a much better job.
nonymous
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Re: Yeah right

We need competition or prices and caps will go up and down.

BF69
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Camden, TN

Re: Yeah right

said by nonymous:

We need competition or prices and caps will go up and down.

Actually not. Since spectrum is a finite resource there isn't going to be enough to go around and thus you'll always will have high prices and low caps to prevent congestion issues. This spectrum would be better off being sold to companies that will actually use it. I'd rather Dish sell their spectrum to at&t or verizon than spectrum get taken away from OTA broadcasters.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
What they could do though is team up with Sprint - not that it's probable. Sprint's new network rollout allows for plugin cards for other sub carriers - which they planned to do with LightSquared. No reason Dish couldn't take advantage of Sprint's new cellsite framework and do their own - and potentially share with Sprint too where they could access Sprint spectrum. Dish could essentially setup an agreement similar to how LS tried to work with Sprint.

BF69
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Re: Yeah right

Screw Sprint let me know when they bother to offer even BASIC service in my area. If you are going to ignore most of the country you don't deserve extra spectrum let alone the spectrum you already have.
mist668

join:2011-02-15
Middleburg, PA

Re: Yeah right

said by BF69:

Screw Sprint let me know when they bother to offer even BASIC service in my area. If you are going to ignore most of the country you don't deserve extra spectrum let alone the spectrum you already have.

I hear ya man sprint has no real service for at least 18 miles in either direction from me. Unless you count the 5 sq mile coverage they have from one tower in the middle of no were not connected to any other coverage.
BiggA

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Problem is that they don't have much in the way of rural coverage.

Those of you talking about more competition are delusional. Our big two don't even have universally good networks. You simply can't have a whole bunch of networks all running side by side and expect any one of them to have decent coverage, as some will have sites here, and others will have them there, etc. And that's not even to mention spectrum.

There is only room for three AT MOST world-class 4G networks in this country, and likely there will only be two, because Sprint and T-Mobile both fail to get the critical mass needed to build a good network. And at this rate, with AT&T not having enough 4G spectrum, we may only have one.

The problem with that is Verizon will own the market, and have no competition to answer to. So wouldn't it be better that we give AT&T a boost than let Verizon just dominate and charge whatever they want?

KrK
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Sure, Verizon can do a much better job duopolizing the market and ratcheting up fees and rates.

We need more competition and options, and that's a fact.
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Not Fooled

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Work for Verizon, do you? Otherwise a well informed person would not have that opinion.

IowaCowboy
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I will never do business with them again

My experience with Dish network was not a good one. They lasted three months in my house as they have horrible customer service, equipment that has too many bugs and horrible support (like when a remote went bad and the replacement they sent me looked like it came out of a dumpster). When I went to cancel, they claimed I had a commitment when they advertised no commitment when I signed up in their promotional material. I had to threaten them with a lawsuit to cancel.

A few years later, I read that the Attorney General of Massachusetts and the AGs from 46 other states had settled with Dish Network on behalf of consumers so I guess I wasn't the only one screwed by them.

I had DirecTV for about four years but I went back to Comcast after DirecTV got too expensive and I got a much better deal from Comcast. I am happy with my current setup with two TiVo DVRs and the EMTA feeding my internet and phone. Sometimes it can be a pain in the butt to get them to fix things but they don't charge $80 for a truck roll to fix their faulty equipment like the sattelite providers do.
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verizonlteda

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Re: I will never do business with them again

I dont get charged for faulty stuff from directv.

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said by verizonlteda :

I dont get charged for faulty stuff from directv.

What I am talking about is they charge for service calls (such as dish realignments and faulty wiring). When Dish Network did my install (which I ripped out a few month later), the installer cut corners by not using wall plates and violating the electrical codes by not grounding the dish. When I cancelled, they wanted the LNBF back (like I am going to risk my life going on a ladder to a second story roof to retrieve a piece of hardware) and that is illegal in my hometown of Cedar Rapids, IA as ownership of any item that is attached to the structure transfers to the owner of the structure per the building codes there (my dish fiasco happened in Springfield, MA but I am sure their building codes are similar).
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KrK
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Re: I will never do business with them again

You realize that all utilities will charge for faulty wiring and so on, as it's your property. Of course, it sucks that the sub-contractor did a crappy install job in the first place.

I installed my own Dish and cabling and always had excellent service from them, for the many years I had them (before I cut the payTV cord).
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Re: I will never do business with them again

said by KrK:

You realize that all utilities will charge for faulty wiring and so on, as it's your property. Of course, it sucks that the sub-contractor did a crappy install job in the first place.

When I had issues with my Comcast high speed internet, I had a dedicated tech that replaced all of the fittings on my inside wiring because a few were "sucked out" (which means the dilectric core was not flush with the base of the fitting). Never got charged for the service call as it was Comcast's contractor that installed the wiring in the first place (although the wiring had been detached from the outside of the house and reattached when the former landlord painted the unit prior to being sold to the current landlord), I paid to have that outlet installed (when we moved in) in the first place since the second bedroom did not have a cable outlet.
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mist668

join:2011-02-15
Middleburg, PA
said by verizonlteda :

I dont get charged for faulty stuff from directv.

I do from dish, I have to pay $6 a month to cover their crap equipment and $15 deductible every time the guy needs to come out. If I did not have this insurance I would have to pay $99 for them to come out

HappywithDis

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I've been a customer for six years and I have received excellent service even in dealing with a lightening strike that took out the entire system last year. Dish had a service tech here the next day. Verizon took a week to get one of their idiots to come repair the phone line. Then it took them two weeks to send someone to fix the DSL. I'll take Dish service over Verizon any day!!!

KrK
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If it rests in the FCC's hands...

.... then it must be their "assets" that is resting in the FCC's hand and all the FCC has to do is squeeze.

Seriously, if you're depending on the FCC for the future of your plan, I'd say you're pretty ... hosed.
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