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Dish Unveils Plans For LTE Network
Asks FCC For Waiver Similar to LightSquared's
by Karl Bode Tuesday 23-Aug-2011 tags: satellite · business · wireless · bandwidth · wireless
Dish network has been on a bit of an acquisition spree recently, acquiring satellite operator DBSD North America for $1 billion, then grabbing TerreStar Networks. When asked back in February what Dish was up to and whether or not they'd be engaging in a wireless play Dish CEO Charlie Egen essentially stated they were simply acquiring spectrum for fun. Fast forward six months and Dish is now making it clear that they very much want to jump into the wireless market using these spectrum assets, proposing a hybrid satellite-terrestrial mobile broadband network using LTE-Advanced network technology. Dish saw the waivers that were granted by the FCC for LightSquared and essentially wants in, and is promising the FCC they'll deploy LTE in a semi-ambitious fashion:

In return for the waiver, Dish said it will commit to a "substantial terrestrial network deployment" intended to increase wireless broadband competition, including in rural areas, using LTE-Advanced network technology. Dish said it is prepared to work with the FCC "to develop a reasonable, attainable buildout schedule keyed to commercial availability of the LTE-Advanced standard," and that it is committed to developing a buildout schedule "consistent with FCC precedent and based on the buildout principles established" in Sprint Nextel's combination of its spectrum assets with Clearwire. According to BTIG Research analyst Walter Piecyk, the Sprint buildout requirements were 15 million POPs in four years and 30 million POPs within six years. "That is materially short of LightSquared's commitment to build 100 million POPs by the end of next year and 160 million POPs by the end of 2015 in order to obtain its waiver to offer terrestrial-only services," Piecyk wrote.

You can expect this waiver to be granted, given it provides an interference-free-though-less ambitious alternative to LightSquared's plan. Even if the network never materializes, it also provides the FCC the competitive justification they need for their inevitable approval of the AT&T T-Mobile deal. In much the same way BPL was used by the agency to justify cable and DSL deregulation, either LightSquared or Dish's plans can be used as a justification to let AT&T proceed, even if the competitive reality never materializes.

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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Broadband

This is the only real way Dish and DirecTV can deploy true VoD and other services. Currently they rely on the customers current HSI connection and are limited to the caps that are in place with ATT and Comcast and other soft caps that are NOT enforced.

But as we seen before their HSI (sat) and DSL (DirecTV) networks never really made it to anything and always end up being sold off. This would be another one of those and LightSquared will gobble it up for pennies when it fails.

cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3

Re: Broadband

Yeah your right. The only way to control that experience with VOD or potential SDV/IPTV is to control the last mile.

Broadcast bandwidth from sat's are a limited resource. IPTV/VOD or a switched digital multicast potentially adds unlimited capacity. It can't be trusted for linear TV delivery if they can't control the last mile along with an uncapped service.

If they do use this for video services down the road it's an answer to the bandwidth crunch. You can't really do VOD/IPTV or SDV form a satellite because even the most narrow focused spot beam hits too large of an area.

Hopefully this works out for Dish, however to cover the entire US is going to be a VERY expensive operation.

Linklist
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Longport, NJ
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Good news if no GPS interference in Dish's network

This is all good news, if the Dish plans use frequencies not affecting GPS devices. Maybe Dish and Lightsquared can combine investing dollars and rollout a non-interfering service.
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Oh_No
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join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL

Re: Good news if no GPS interference in Dish's network

This is 20 Mhz in the S-band (2 to 4 GHz)
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_band
The S-Band is broad and is used for Wifi, communcation satellites, weather satellites, NASA, TV, cordless phones, Sirius XMradio, etc.

DBSD is 2010-2020 MHz and 2180-2190 MHz bands.
They are under the FCC requirement to be low powered satellite only. There has to be a reason for that, but there might be no interference problems.
sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

Re: Good news if no GPS interference in Dish's network

said by Oh_No:

This is 20 Mhz in the S-band (2 to 4 GHz)
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_band
The S-Band is broad and is used for Wifi, communcation satellites, weather satellites, NASA, TV, cordless phones, Sirius XMradio, etc.

DBSD is 2010-2020 MHz and 2180-2190 MHz bands.
They are under the FCC requirement to be low powered satellite only. There has to be a reason for that, but there might be no interference problems.

Ouch that's pretty high frequency. They're not going to be providing much rural coverage on those bands.

Oh_No
Trogglus normalus

join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL

Re: Good news if no GPS interference in Dish's network

Why?
HIPAR

join:2005-11-10
Tannersville, PA

Re: Good news if no GPS interference in Dish's network

Because signal attenuation from foliage, rain and walls increases with higher frequency. The best bands for wireless are in the 700 MHz range.
decifal

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Bon Aqua, TN
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usual

As usual, i'm skeptical till I see the actual product on the market.. Probably just another awesome piece of technology that will be overly capped and throttled.. Honestly, i'm not even sure why they are bothering with the lte networks with the caps i've seen.. Shut that down and burn it, its pointless for the amount your charged for what you get.. And don't give me the limited spectrum bs. They haven't even made a dent in the available spectrum out there...

In greed technology fails...
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Sprint

They should partner with Sprint, and do some rural build-out where Sprint isn't going to.
HIPAR

join:2005-11-10
Tannersville, PA

Re: Sprint

Did you ever look out the window when flying over the rural great plains? Do you think anyone is going to construct and maintain a network of towers to cover wheat fields? The only practical way to service those isolated farm houses is by satellite. Don't expect 4G service from that.

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BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Re: Sprint

They desperately need real boradband, and satellite isn't that. A lot of areas have some sort of wireless now, who knows whether this will help them or not (probably not).

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