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story category DirecTV Unveils DirecTV2PC Beta
Satellite carrier expands functionality for HR2x series DVRs
04:28PM Wednesday Oct 22 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: satellite · Video · business · hardware
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Users in our Cable & Satellite TV forum note that DirecTV has released the beta version of DirecTV2PC, which will let owners of an HR2x series DirecTV HD-DVR stream video to their PC. The program is a customized version of commercially available software from Cyberlink, and is free (for now). DBSTalk has an interesting first look (pdf) at the new system, which so far is Windows only, and obviously works best with 802.11N or an Ethernet connection. It looks like DirecTV and Cyberlink have crafted an advisor software that will check your network & PC for compatibility (though the link appears broken at the moment).

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wifi4milez
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Only on home network?

It appears as if this is only meant to allow streaming over your in home network, its not a Slingbox type of service. However, I cant imagine it would be that hard to open a port on your router or use a VPN to watch the stream from elsewhere.....
gworkman7

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Re: Only on home network?

It is intended for home use only. It requires a tremendous amount of bandwidth and I doubt there are many folks who will have the upload bandwidth to use this app outside of the LAN. Cyberlink and DirecTV must play by the rules on this app. As a matter of fact, unless you have HDCP compatible connection for your monitor, you can't view HD broadcasts even over the LAN.
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Broken Link

The only way to get to the CyberLink apps is through
www.directv.com/directv2pc

Any attempts at circumventing this will result in broken links.

This is a great app that functions well on a decent machine. A trick I enjoy is starting a recording then watching it on my PC after the buffer gets a minute or two into it.

phr3ak34

@cox.net

Re: Broken Link

Direct link for the handicap:

»www.cyberlink.com/prog/event/200···isor.jsp
iSEPIC

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San Jose, CA

Re: Broken Link

direct link that works:

»www.cyberlink.com/prog/event/200···isor.exe
pcme2000

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Re: Broken Link

Question I clicked on that you that you posted and it told me that it wouldn't acces the download?
kontos
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Kinda pointless to me

Is it just me or is this backwards. I mean once I get my XX" plasma/LCD and HD DVR it's a downgrade to send the video to my puny LCD on my computer.

On the other hand, an easy way to get the video content I've stored on my computer to display on my TV screen. That's a Killer App. Any video service provider that wants to sell me that box, I'm an instant subscriber.

I know There are boxes that can do this for me already, but really, how may video decoders should I need to hook up to my screen? KISS.

Simba7

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October 22nd, @05:22PM

Re: Kinda pointless to me

I couldn't say a computer monitor is "Puny".. It was "High Def" before there was High Def. Even the CRT's.

..and with laptop monitors doing 1920x1200, I'd go for it.
sabatcj
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Check out TVersity or even XBMC.

The second is my fav because I can stream HD content.
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said by kontos See Profile :

Is it just me or is this backwards. I mean once I get my XX" plasma/LCD and HD DVR it's a downgrade to send the video to my puny LCD on my computer.

On the other hand, an easy way to get the video content I've stored on my computer to display on my TV screen. That's a Killer App. Any video service provider that wants to sell me that box, I'm an instant subscriber.

I know There are boxes that can do this for me already, but really, how may video decoders should I need to hook up to my screen? KISS.
DirecTV HR2x DVR's have been able to play media content from PC's for quite some time. Now PC's can play content from the DVR's. You can go either way as of last nights HR2x firmware update.

I'm much more interested in streaming video content FROM my DVR's than streaming content TO them. However, streaming content TO these DVR's has been possible for quite some time.
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October 23rd, @09:46AM

Re: Kinda pointless to me

said by pandora See Profile :

DirecTV HR2x DVR's have been able to play media content from PC's for quite some time.

... streaming content TO these DVR's has been possible for quite some time.
»www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/co···vtype=-1 says that they'll only do pictures and music, not video. And that's only if you have an Intel based PC. If you're right, they have a funny way of advertising it.

samiran

@comcast.net

Re: Kinda pointless to me

No, he's correct.

It's a standard UPNP DLNA client. You can watch Audio, Video, and Pictures from any DLNA server on any HR20/21/22 DirecTV box.

Video formats are a bit choosy, however. I'd recommend H.264, with a maximum bitrate under 7 Mbps (probably best to stay closer to 5).
kontos
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Re: Kinda pointless to me

said by samiran :

No, he's correct.

It's a standard UPNP DLNA client. You can watch Audio, Video, and Pictures from any DLNA server on any HR20/21/22 DirecTV box.
I'm still a little cautious. Since they don't advertise that fact, or mention it anywhere that I can find, I wonder if we're just a firmware update away from the capability being taken away.
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said by kontos See Profile :

»www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/co···vtype=-1 says that they'll only do pictures and music, not video. And that's only if you have an Intel based PC. If you're right, they have a funny way of advertising it.
You can do a lot with a DirecTV HR2x unit - »forums.directv.com/pe/action/for···10446778

I'm new to the forum - I'm pleased with using media share. Have an hr22 hooked to my laptop using Intel core 2 duo processor and windows vista. Installed Tversity (very easy install) and did the network connect on the hr22. It worked first try. My wife is from Germany and I have a number of German TV stations streaming with a pretty good picture and very few problems. I also have streaming radio stations. My music from window media player works fine. Also stream youtube sites and pod casts. The only problem I have is with my pictures. They play fine and look good on by 52" LCD . However, the only way I can get them to play is using the shuffle function. I have thousands of photos in one sub-directory. So I guess I have to go through them all and make many sub-directories. I really like Tversity.
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DTV boxes already support displaying Windows media content on your TV from your PC.

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said by kontos See Profile :

On the other hand, an easy way to get the video content I've stored on my computer to display on my TV screen. That's a Killer App. Any video service provider that wants to sell me that box, I'm an instant subscriber.

I know There are boxes that can do this for me already, but really, how may video decoders should I need to hook up to my screen? KISS.
It's called an "Xbox 360". It's from Microsoft? Came out a few years ago. Let's you play WMV files as you care to. Add TVersity, and you can play 95% of your movies on the big screen.

trparky
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Not getting my key!

Is anyone else not getting their serial numbers via email?
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Re: Not getting my key!

My emails with serials came in ~30 minutes after I requested them.

I had to turn off my mail server's firewall and security to get the emails to deliver. One was delivered by 203.73.25.212, the other from 203.73.25.214.

First problem, 203.73.x.x is assigned to SeedNet in Taiwan. My server's firewall normally drops SMTP traffic from Asian and Eastern Europe IPs. I don't know anybody out there and all they send me is spam ergo I normally drop their traffic.

Second problem is much bigger though. Neither IP has a reverse lookup (PTR) record. This is going to cause problems with ALOT of ISP's mail servers. Many ISPs will refuse mail from servers with no PTR.

So.. I recommend you try having the serial sent to an email address at different domain names until one works. Try gmail, hotmail, etc.,.. and keep in mind they may immediately flag it as spam and deliver it to your spam/junk folder.

Sucks. Hopefully, Cyberlink will get a clue and hire someone who knows how to run mail servers.

johnnyc

@comcast.net

I have sent out multiple requests to get the serial number to all of my different email addresses and have never received a serial number back. in fact I set up a gmail account yesterday, changed my directv account to that email account, requested the serial number again and I still haven't got a serial number. Is there any way to get this serial number????
prosenba

join:2006-09-19
Seattle, WA

Re: Not getting my key!

Same Problem, hotmail doesn't allow it either.
directv customer service doesn't seem to get it either, they basic told me to re-register to get the key. No mail ever arrives.
jpfreimuth

join:2003-05-21
Mayville, WI

HDTV on PC

This could be a good thing. I have put off getting satellite service because there is no way to get an HD feed from the box to my computer.

With Cable TV, I can just send the coax directly into my HD TV tuner to get all of my locals in High Def. There is no other type of HD input to a PC that I can find.

The reason I prefer watching on my computer is that I have a projector hooked up through the VGA port that is capable of a true High Def signal. Watching football on a 15' diagonal screen beats the "tiny" HDTV in my living room. This could open up other (non-internet) viewing options.
azjerry

join:2002-12-04
Phoenix, AZ

limitations

It gives an error if you have more than one monitor connected. I've read, but haven't tried yet, that turning off one monitor in the driver software will then allow the remaining monitor to work. A number of users at DBSTalk report other problems with app lockups and crashes, and incompatibilities with PowerDVD software.

Cheese
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Is it me...

Or are the downloads horribly slow from DTV/Cyberlink?
jester121

join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL

Re: Is it me...

Not you -- they're probably getting hammered today.

Cheese
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Re: Is it me...

said by jester121 See Profile :

Not you -- they're probably getting hammered today.
That could very well be the case, it also may explain why it can't activate the "key"
jester121

join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL

Re: Is it me...

Same here, couldn't activate until this morning.
mbuonaccorsi

join:2001-08-15
Waukesha, WI

Old News

This is old news... the beta has been going on for months now. I've had this software installed on my PC for at least a month now.

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Re: Old News

said by mbuonaccorsi See Profile :

This is old news... the beta has been going on for months now. I've had this software installed on my PC for at least a month now.
Great for you It's not OLD news for everyone
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I like it

I do have TVs in a lot of rooms, as many Americans do anymore.
But there are times I want to watch stuff on my HD DVR in a different room.

Also, I like the interface, it is very easy.
I can watch TV and work/play.
Plus, it is in high-def (though I am not sure what resolution yet).

I did not know about it until today.

Looking at the bandwidth it uses, yes, I can do it but probably not in too many locations. I have not tested how it adjusts for network problems or anything but on your local LAN or on a high speed network, works well.

I also have a slingbox and it has its advantages as well.
For example, a slingbox I can watch at my camp in the middle of the woods at 768k, the Directv app I doubt it.

The Directv app, perfect for moving around the home with and watching what is on my main DVR. I cannot afford a high def DVR in every room so some are SD or just HD receivers.

So, 8 stars out of 10?

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Re: I like it

DirecTV now has:
1 - the ability to 'play' (act as a client) media over the HR2x series from Windows Media acting as a server on a PC. (Note: TVersity also works). Music/video/pictures.

2 - the ability to send (act as a server) media from the HR2x series to a PC with the DirecTV2PC software client.

Logical folks come to the conclusion that it will soon give the HR2x the ability to act as a client for another HR2x acting as a server - i.e. true MRV (multi-room viewing) capability. Whether this is true or not remains to be seen - but it seems to be the single most asked for 'enhancement' on the HR2x (next to 'stability' )
sgs66

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Re: I like it

When I start the software, I cannot activate the software. Any Ideas.

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Re: I like it

Firewalls can screw up the ability for the app to access the internet and your DVRs. Depending on what firewall software you use, you need to add the .exe file that was installed to your "allowed" list.

The app installs in \Program Files\DirecTV\DirecTV by default (or \Program Files(x86)\DirecTV\DirecTV for Vista 64) and is named DIRECTV2PC(TM).exe

parker29

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Although it e-mailed me two separate activation keys, both come back with "Invalid Activation Key"
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edit:
October 22nd, @11:31PM

In the dbstalk.com forums, it seems multi-room viewing is in the cards for these devices.

It appears multi-room viewing via ethernet was a design goal for the DirecTV HR2x series units. My hats off to the developers who sat down a few years ago and decided to create a series of DVR's with so much capability.

The firmware could not provide these features unless the hardware was designed to support it. DirecTV engineers were far sighted.
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Joe12345678

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Re: I like it

Will be nice to ad play back for the non drv H2X ones as well.
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October 22nd, @10:02PM

Trying to regain the market share ... obviously necessary

This is obviously a good idea.

A lot of us don't have TVs anymore, but have lots of computers laying around.

This is perfect for the modern world, and actually about half a decade past its largest initial usefulness, and a decade past when it should have been introduced.

I caught someone say "when [he] buys [his] plasma TV" ... yeah right, well, sure, yeah, for him this is pretty much moot AFTER he buys it. It's as if we have to own a new TV just to watch TV. Some of us had money to invest into the betting game at Wall Street (and bet against liar loans and won big), but a lot of us never had any money in the first place, and are just waiting for housing prices to go down (way, way, superway way way down). DirecTV saw the light, and realized they better jump on board or get steamrolled by us downsizing our expenditures on useless redundant content delivery companies when the Internet is so much more standard and reliable.

Whoever stopped running DirecTV did a great thing by getting out of the way (Robert Mudock?).

I am aware that some people have put in the necessary investments in the latest version of legacy HDTV architecture to keep up to date with the current CableCo/SatelliteCo setup, but I'd say most of us young people haven't. I saw this all first hand at one of my recent jobs.

Lately, my income has become much, much healthier, but I certainly haven't decided to start wasting money on things I already realized I don't need.

We will get a projector when we can afford it, but there's no guarantee we're plugging it into anything but our computer. That's the idea. That's where all the content is for us, anyway. If it's free, we might augment it a smidgen from other sources, but only if the cables don't look ugly.

That might change when we can afford BluRay. That might change everything ... BluRay might be the savior for old fashioned TV. We'll need a competent 1080p set before we bother with a BluRay, though, and the prices on those 1080p sets are still pushing that item down on the budget priority list, even if we consider the best good quality set deals on Amazon.com. (The BluRay player is cheaper than the set, and as far as I'm concerned, they're a matched pair, so get bought at the same time, and returned at the same time if they don't work. I still want them componentized, though, so no BluRay inside my set (ew) (but come to think of it, that might be an ideal way to control quality production (yes, there are things that the player has to do for picture quality)).)
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Re: Trying to regain the market share ... obviously necessary

This service compliments HD TV. For example, in my living room is a nice 47" HD 1080P LCD TV. Currently it is being used to play an awesome PS3 game. Usually the DVR that is attached to the set would be useless during PS3 game time. Now it can be used to view saved content on any PC in the house.

This allows an unused DVR to be used, it allows a PS3 user to not take away the DVR from video users.

Various DVR's in our home have different types of content depending on who their primary users are. Now any user can watch content from any DVR on our LAN without having to control the set or be physically in the room where the DVR is. If someone is watching another program on the TV via DVR, another can watch a different program via PC on the same DVR.

This update allows greater utilization of our DirecTV DVR's, and makes it easier for users to see what they want, when they want, where they want.
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Joe12345678

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Re: Trying to regain the market share ... obviously necessary

HDCP IS NOT NEEDED FOR NON PPV PLAY BACK OF SHOWS.

But do you need a Service Called CLHNService3 Running with a unknown Manufacturer.
Binary

join:2007-12-29
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eh

If they give me a receiver PCI card on my computer then I be happy.
luciano

join:1999-10-21
Mesa, AZ

H20 not going to work - no Ethernet on H20

So it looks like a choice between HD/OTA on H20 or HD/Ethernet on later models of non DVR H2x boxes.
Ame I right here - or they will make some use of the USB connector on H20?
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