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4 edits | Re: American Business Swine said by moonpuppy :said by TKJunkMail :Howard who?? Probably referring to Howard Hughes who started the company. Thanks. I never knew that a Hughes company started DirecTV(used to be called Hughes Electronics which came from Hughes Aircraft). They've been around longer than I thought since he has been dead so long(1976).
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_Electronics
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV_Group
Actually DirecTV came more from a merger of Delco Electronics(GM company) and Hughes Aircraft subsidiary Hughes Space and Communications division. Delco merged with Hughes Aircraft when GM owned it. It was while GM owned it that DirecTV was created in 1994.
So I guess GM had more to do with DirecTV than Howard Hughes ever did.
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by jferello :Just another wonderful American company!! We have swine running our largest companies. Man, Howard is rolling over in his grave..... Howard who?? Howard Hughes, probably.
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Corona, CA | Only for PPV That's the only thing I can think of for the phone line. Also DTV may use the phone line to see if the unit is at the same location as the account. I just wish they would enable USB for LAN like the SA S2 units have. | |
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| Re: Only for PPV My brother doesn't have have a phone line. He does have a dog that looks like yours though!
He hasn't tried PPV, but his DirecTV Tivo does work fine - except - its software never gets updated.
I just can't believe that the new software comes in over the phone line and not from the satellite.
I'm so irritated at DirecTV that I'm looking at Dish. If you don't have a phone line with them they want to charge you $5.00. Per receiver. In this day and age of VOIP and cell phones...
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| Re: Only for PPV You can still do it with the remote on some recievers. Here's the important thing though, the access card in the reciever holds the information of what ppvs you have ordered. So, if you don't have a phone line then they don't know you ordered the ppvs... for a while.
I've seen accounts come up that say they have ppv charges from two years back... they just barely connected the phone line, or had the cards switched or something.
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| Re: Only for PPV said by ablack6596 :The Tivo doesn't download updates over the telephone, it downloads them off the satellite. It just figures out whether or not to install them over the phone. What a poor design. Since the update is coming from the satellite anyway, why not just have the box look at the currently available updates and decide for itself? I assume that the current method is to periodically "Phone Home," tell the computer at the other end what version of the microcode you are running, and get told to do any update. What ever check is done by the remote computer can just as well be done by the box in the first place. | |
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| Re: Only for PPV said by RARPSL :What a poor design. Since the update is coming from the satellite anyway, why not just have the box look at the currently available updates and decide for itself? I think the idea is to provide "rolling" updates, spacing them out over time, to avoid overwhelming DirecTV's support lines just in case the upgrade goes wrong. Yes, it's lame. | |
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| Re: Only for PPV said by wmcbrine :said by RARPSL :What a poor design. Since the update is coming from the satellite anyway, why not just have the box look at the currently available updates and decide for itself? I think the idea is to provide "rolling" updates, spacing them out over time, to avoid overwhelming DirecTV's support lines just in case the upgrade goes wrong. Yes, it's lame. There is a solution to the "rolling issue". Add a "interested" check to the download check. IOW: Have some way of the box knowing if it was chosen to test the new code before it is declared "General Availability - Download it". This can be something as simple as looking at the box serial number (or some number that is unique to the box), computing a modulo value based on what percentage of the boxes you want to test on (ie: If you want 5% to test it, divide by 20 and check the remainder with some supplied number for THAT update from 0 to 19 so as to not use the same set of boxes each time), and doing the download if you pass that check.
This solution is based on the assumption that the phone call not only decides if you need the update but if it has selected you to test it. | |
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| No, the satellite is not used for the upload on DVR's, the upload is done over the phoneline. No, phonelines aren't needed for DVR's or any receiver in that case, you just can't get updates, or order ppv. But DTV is forcing Tech's to install phonelines, even if the house is not equipped with phone or if there is not active phone. It sucks, trust me. we don't want to run another stupid line for nothing just as you don't want us to, so sorry if we are a little pushy, as they suggest if you don't want another line run, "you can go for a wireless phone jack system" sure great, i'll take one...oh yeah, that will be another $85.50!!! Now you know why I'm "Ex DirecTV Tech" i was helping people out too much and cutting to good of deals!! Like this one I'm going to offer.....DTV HDDVR still in box $300.00! if in eastern nebraska around me, I'll even install it for you for free! This HDDVR goes for $600 off the shelf, first one to get ahold of me with money has it. caniemann@alltel.net | |
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| Re: Only for PPV said by Transmaster :You mean you are JUST thinking of going to Dish Network. Don't walk RUN!!!!! Software updates on Dish are downloaded from one of their satellites.  They also have the best HDTV offering out their and they have package deals for HDTV that are hard to turn down.  DISHNETWORKS is the most hacked service out there right now. I believe that has something to do with the fact NagraVision beams new codes to everyone over the dish. I think the "phone home" in DirecTV is why not many people hack it anymore. Either way, I actually posted in regards to the idea of a bi-directional LNB, but the downside to it would be the complaints from people stating "you're beaming radiation into my house". Yep, the internet, or phone line, is the only way this distant technology can talk back, and for that, it will never be as good as cable. Cable's got it beat, but it does cost more. I guess you get what you pay for, or at least I have. | |
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= phattieg but the downside to it would be the complaints from people stating "you're beaming radiation into my house".
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| said by phattieg : Either way, I actually posted in regards to the idea of a bi-directional LNB, but the downside to it would be the complaints from people stating "you're beaming radiation into my house". That isn't the downside.
Receiving is much easier than transmitting. A receiver costs a LOT less than a transmitter especially one that would have to be DEAD ON target to the satellite to which it was communicating with. | |
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| Tell Them Anything? Isn't the first rule of selling to tell the customer anything you can, even if it means making up BS from the git-go to make them buy your product? If someone who lacks a phone line wants to buy DirecTV service, wouldn't it have been in DirecTV's best interests to say that the service works without a phone line so that they get the sale instead?
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| Re: Tell Them Anything? said by Zoder :Apparently, they make a commission on every receiver hooked up to a phone line. Poor DirecTV... looks like they will never be seeing a penny from me
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| Re: Tell Them Anything? said by openmike :
thats what i dont get...WHY do they get commission? What is the point? They are upselling the service. Just like how a car salesman tries to sell you more car then you want/need, or how Best Buy tries to sell you a $30 extended service plan on a $20 phone. The company makes more money off of a item with a higher margin. Satellite companies pay for installs really isn't that much, especially if it's a more complex install, so they try to sell the extras where ever they can.
What I'm not 100% convinced on is if charging the $5 penalty to the installer is a DirecTV company policy, or the contractor's policy. I can easily see how an over zealous contracted company might try to upsell by any means, but have a harder time imagining DirecTV has that same policy. There is a difference between requiring a line for full service and actually lying to the customer that their receiver will blow up.
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| The initial call is all that is needed to ACTIVATE the receiver. After 30 days, he will get a DAILY nag screen. If anyone purchases Pay Per View and the receiver can't make a phone call it will STOP working until the PPV info can be transmitted.
Now imagine the CSR telling the land-lineless consumer this, "You can take your receiver to friends house to activate it with their landline. You will get a daily nag screen which will never go away and you have to tell everyone in your house not to every order PPV with the remote. They can only order it through the web site and if you don't have internet you can pay $5 to order it over the telephone"
or "You must be plugged into a landline for our receiver to work properly"
What is simpler? DirecTV makes huge money from PPV and expecting non-tech savvy consumers to jump through all these hoops to buy a movie means less revenue from those purchases. They could fix the problem but they have already introduced their own DVR (which they don't have to pay Tivo to license) and DirecTivos will never be updated again. | |
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| I think you are confused on who DirecTV's real customers are. They are the stock holders of the company not us. The people who use their service are just there so they can make a profit and keep the stock hold.... I mean real customers happy.
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| What's wrong with a software update? If corporate REALLY wants a phone line hooked up, why not just push a firmware update to the receivers that check for the phone line? If it doesn't successfully call back within a few days, shut down the box. I think that's a little better than telling your installers to LIE about something. | |
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| Re: What's wrong with a software update? Good point but the design itself is wrong, firmware and updates even PPV should be sent directly through the dish instead of having the receiver calling home.
This is also a good method to find the people who modify the Directv cards in order to get all the channels without paying a dime. Since when it calls home it also verifies that your dish card is valid.
the phone line should be completely removed in my opinion but while there at it making receiver changes I will also like to see some price drops and the cost of a additional receiver just an extra dollar instead of 5 dollars. With so many customers you guys are really banking. | |
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| Re: What's wrong with a software update? You can't remove the phone line. The only other way the receiver could phone home is to have a 2 way satellite. Well the FCC mandates the only a certified tech can install a 2 way dish. This mean the people like us could not install our own dish and this would cost DirecTV to much money.
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Manassas, VA | Misleading headline The headline is incorrect. It should say that Mastech advocated lying. DirecTV just wants the receiver hooked up to a phone line, it is the local install company that is docking the $5.00 and advocating the lying. | |
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Jafo232
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| Well, sort of. It is quite possible I believe that there could be a situation where the phone line is needed. I left one of my units unplugged from the phone line for a long time. I noticed it didn't have the latest software (it wasn't grouping shows, and the version # was different). Once I let it dial in, it updated the software.
Although unlikely, it is possible that a future update might usher in a change that could be required for the machine to run properly due to some other changes (i.e. format of channel data).
I suppose if it ever did happen, BBR would have an entire feature on how DirecTV intentionally broke DirecTivo by not telling their customers to keep their boxes plugged into the phone.
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| Re: Well, sort of. said by Jafo232 :It is quite possible I believe that there could be a situation where the phone line is needed. I left one of my units unplugged from the phone line for a long time. I noticed it didn't have the latest software (it wasn't grouping shows, and the version # was different). Once I let it dial in, it updated the software. The phone call (or internet call if you've hacked in support for networking) is where the Tivo sends some info to find out if it needs to upgrade. The upgrade itself comes down over the satellite though.
The DTivos are a bit wacky - you have two processes that want the phone - the DTV PPV stuff and the Tivo stuff (sw check, send in viewing data, ??).
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| Re: Well, sort of. said by sporkme :said by Jafo232 :It is quite possible I believe that there could be a situation where the phone line is needed. I left one of my units unplugged from the phone line for a long time. I noticed it didn't have the latest software (it wasn't grouping shows, and the version # was different). Once I let it dial in, it updated the software. The phone call (or internet call if you've hacked in support for networking) is where the Tivo sends some info to find out if it needs to upgrade. The upgrade itself comes down over the satellite though. The DTivos are a bit wacky - you have two processes that want the phone - the DTV PPV stuff and the Tivo stuff (sw check, send in viewing data, ??). Right, but in order for the update to be downloaded, a call is needed. Eitherway, it won't get the update without a call. It is completely possible for the box to stop working wihtout the phone plugged in, even though it is probably unlikely.
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join:2000-08-21
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| Now what moron would support this? Tell me what idiot would support this at any company?
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The group said supervisors have ordered them to do or say whatever it takes to avoid a deduction on their paychecks, the report said.
"Tell the customer whatever you have to tell them," technician Frank Martinez said. "Tell them if these phone lines are not connected, the receiver will blow up."
"You've been told to tell them that?" Alvarez asked.
"We've been told to say that," Martinez said. "(And say) whatever it takes to get that phone line in the receiver."
Being ordered to do "whatever it takes."  Telling the customers that the receivers will "blow up." If the first part is advocating lying then the second part does.
Fifty dollars to plug in a receiver into a phone jack?!?!?!?!
And why not use a high speed connection if possible? Faster than dial up.
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Local 6 News reported that statements from the Mastec and DirectTV corporate offices make it clear that the policy of deducting money from employees' paychecks will continue.
This is stupid. Deducting money because employees won't lie. This isn't salesmen-ship, this is out right deception. I wonder how many of these guys will lose their jobs now because they "blew the whistle" on a deceptive and, more than likely, illegal practice.
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Last year, DirectTV paid out a $5 million settlement with Florida and 21 other states for deceptive practices.
Now, because of the Local 6 News story, the attorney general's office looking into this newest issue, Alvarez said.
OOOPSIE! Got caught once before?
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| Noooooo I thought only cable companies did such things to their customers? In just one week we now realize that Verizon is using predatory pricing for FIOS, and DirecTV urged CSR's to lie to customers.
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| Re: Noooooo said by BillRoland :I thought only cable companies did such things to their customers? In just one week we now realize that Verizon is using predatory pricing for FIOS, and DirecTV urged CSR's to lie to customers. Yes my friend, the evil is everywhere. I tell you this much, it doesn't surprise me one bit. I have worked customer service for 9 years now, 4 at my current job, and the rest at 2 others, and all were major providers. This crap goes on everywhere. It's when people start pissing off the employees that all the leaks come out. Consider the AT&T whistleblower incident the result of a pissed employee. I love this info though, because considering DirecTV has contracts and all, I think it's rediculous. I, though, enjoy DishNetworks without a contract, not even from day one, I own my own reciever, and I put my own software updates on the box if I need them. Thats all I gotta say. | |
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| Cable is different Cable does not have to have a phone line to do what the Directv recievers need the phone line for, remember there is 2 way communication between the box and the network, cant do that with a little dish.
I can forsee Directv going the route that if the recievers are not plugged into a phone line, you will have to pay full price for each one. I cant blame them for doing something like that, to take care of people splitting a bill and the recievers ending up in different houses.
As for the arguement that what if they dont have a phone line? Well, I guess they have to call their cable company.
Just for the record, I had Directv for years, and loved the service, and the only reason I switched back to Cable was I bought an HD tv, and I got a really good deal for switching back to cable and signing up for the complete package. | |
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| I have run into this issue a couple times with DTV... I don't keep the phone line plugged in because it literally drops my actual connection speed of my dial-up connection from 22kbps to 7-9kbps. Once I unplug the phone line it goes back up to where it usually is. plug it back in and right back down it goes, unplug it again and well you get the picture. My Fax machine doesn't do this and I can leave it plugged in at all times. What ends up happening is if you order PPV through your remote, after a time you are no longer able to using the remote as the movies seem to build up. I would use their website, but when that happens it only goes to the 2 non-DVR receivers in the house and not to the DVR itself. I have called up DTV about it, and they don't know why PPV doesn't go to the DVR if ordered off the Website.
So, I usually wait till I can no longer order movies via the remote, plug the phone line in, let it call in and then unplug it can so it doesn't cause issues with my internet connection.
Just so you know, I did call about the DVR messing with my internet connection when I first got the DVR, I was sent to their special division people and they told me that they have never heard of this before and that it has to be on my end and they won't do anything about it. My response to them was, there is always a first time. They just didn't say anything after that comment. | |
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How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28
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| Go with Dish Network or Cable For the past 5 years I have not had a home phone, and just recently for the past year had VOIP, which doesn't work with the recievers. I had Dish Network from mid 03 to mid 05 with a PVR and a standard reciever, never had them hooked up to the phone line and never had an issue. I also never got charged $5 per month and they never had an issue of upgrading the recievers over SAT. I laugh when directv requires a phone line for their PVR's. Now that I have cable, obviously you don't need a phone line. All I would do is tell Directv that you are going to leave and watch that $5.00 fee magically disappear (plus you probably can get a month free out of them too.) | |
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| Re: Go with Dish Network or Cable We actually get a couple dollar discount on our phone bill and DirecTv because of a partnership. So we will stick with DirecTv because of this. we have the highest package that DirecTV has as far as programming goes, so we don't get charged the $5 DVR fee.
I wish I could get cable TV, but it's not available here. If it were I would jump at the chancce to ditch DirecTv and Verizon and go with TW's Cable/Internet/Phone deal. Would save us probably close to $100 a month total. | |
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| I remember this when first installing... When I first got DirecTV about 5 years ago, I ran a 20 foot telephone line just so that the installers would not say anything. As soon as they left, I unplugged it. I have never plugged my receivers in and I have no use for PPV. Where my receiver is now, the closest phone line in the house is 40+ feet away. And due to the layout of my family room, the closest power and coax jack is about 15 feet away.
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31 | Re: I remember this when first installing... Sounds exactly like what I did. | |
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join:2004-08-02
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join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| Phone My DirecTV DVR needed the phone line... not sure where the lie is here... The first couple weeks after I got mine I had to constantly force the thing to call in to get guide data. It eventually figured out that it should do the calling itself at 2am... not to mention if you order Pay Per View... the phone connection is what reports those purchases to DirecTV.
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| Re: Phone You can order Pay-Per-View online, and if you do, then the Pay-Per-View access happens for all of your receivers.
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join:2003-10-20
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| said by Jmartz :My DirecTV DVR needed the phone line... not sure where the lie is here... The first couple weeks after I got mine I had to constantly force the thing to call in to get guide data. It eventually figured out that it should do the calling itself at 2am... not to mention if you order Pay Per View... the phone connection is what reports those purchases to DirecTV. The guide data comes over the satellite. My DTiVo box has been unplugged for 325 days and all the guide data is there for 2 weeks out, every day. It still records all of my SPs. If yours doesn't you have another issue. | |
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join:2000-06-14
Rialto, CA
| Possible Reasons From when I had DirecTV back in 2000 I remember the Phone line was need for PPV as stated earlier, but another reason, if IM correct, was the receivers had to be on the same phone, allowing them to confirm that all the receivers are in fact located at a single address. I had a friend who had three receivers, during his time one of his receivers was not hooked to the phone line, later he was billed the full price of the service for that receiver rather then the additional 5 dollars, It makes sense, lets say you signup to 4 TVs and you only need 2, and say another family member also want DirecTV, all they need is to get the dish installed, then after you had the installation of your receivers you hand over the other two receivers to your family members and split the cost of the bill.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: Possible Reasons Good idea. I could get satellite for 5 bucks. | |
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Joe123456789
join:2003-11-24
Des Plaines, IL | Use the SAT way can't they things send the data over the SAT. They have SAT internet so why is that not in the DVR's. New cable boxes don't need a phone line as they use the cable line. | |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | Re: Use the SAT Two-way dishes are not nearly as cheap. | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
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| And now... {sarcasm}These employees that are making these comments are employed by the cable companies in which they are told to tell their customers how much BETTER cable is over satellite or their paychecks will be reduced.{/sarcasm}
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HFCoupler
@147.177.x.x
| Everyone is a Nielson Family No one has picked up on the fact that TiVo, DirecTV, ReplayTV, etc. sell their subscriber base's viewing habits to ratings firms? How else did TiVo show that nifty graph of their subscribers pausing during the Janet Jackson Superbowl slip? With no other back channel other than a phone line, how is that info supposed to make it into their databases? No phone line == lost revenue. | |
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| blacksurfer
join:2002-07-14
Sherman Oaks, CA | 3 Families share DTV with no phone lines I share a DTV account with two other family members. We all have Tivo's and pay about $20 each and have never plugged the phone in. Of course we have hundreds of emails on the Tivo reminding us to plug it in. | |
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| trnsfrguy
join:2005-01-21
Bronx, NY | Re: Everyone is a Nielson Family Not exactly....
Tivo and ReplayTV requires the phone line to operate. Directv doesn't. | |
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| | RiftReaper
join:2002-02-21
Vancouver, WA | Re: Everyone is a Nielson Family I found out after I had already ordered DirecTV that I could of ordered direcTV through my Qwest phone service! What is up with that ?! | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: Everyone is a Nielson Family They are just bundling service. One bill to pay for "cable tv", phone, and possibly internet. It is kind of a stop gap measure to compete with cable companies that offer triple play service.
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard. | |
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