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MarkyD
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| Re: UGH said by ptrowski  :said by MarkyD :Neither are 90% of the forums on here. This place is about a lot more than broadband, get used to it. On topic now, the update didn't make my reception issues any better or worse. GPS, on the other hand, is broken. It takes MINUTES to locate me outside in the middle of the city. Responsiveness in the contacts app is better. You mean the Home Improvement forum is not broadband related?  Sure it is. I got advice on how to run my very own network cable in that forum! | |
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| Re: UGH said by MarkyD :said by ptrowski :said by MarkyD :Neither are 90% of the forums on here. This place is about a lot more than broadband, get used to it. On topic now, the update didn't make my reception issues any better or worse. GPS, on the other hand, is broken. It takes MINUTES to locate me outside in the middle of the city. Responsiveness in the contacts app is better. You mean the Home Improvement forum is not broadband related? Sure it is. I got advice on how to run my very own network cable in that forum!
Oh I know, was just using that as an example. Anything can be broadband related, like the 7 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. | |
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Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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Philly burbs | Re: UGH Not a whole lot of experience with the interweb tubes, there??
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| Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01
| said by aciddrink :Iphone is not broadband! What's that whole 3g thingy all about, then? *boggles at how the browser works without internet connectivity* | |
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| Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent "What? Problems you say? Thats unpossible! It's Apple. See the little logo of the apple on the box? They don't have problems. Now look at the touchscreen." -- Apple Development Team
This problem is one of many that a friend of mine and his wife had. 3G didnt work, both phones had horrible lag problems when browsing things like contacts, programs would crash, and the phone would just reboot for no reason. They had to trade in their phones at least three times. Last time, with the exact same problems, Apple told them to get lost and wouldn't replace the phones. Refused to honor the warranty even though their Genius Bar confirmed it was all phone problems and nothing they did but still refused to replace the phones. Makes me want to run out and buy one... | |
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| raptor1418
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join:2002-12-03
Denver, CO | Re: Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent If your friends had that kind of problem they should just file a complaint online with the BBB. You would be surprised what companies do to resolve a complaint filed there. | |
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join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | Re: Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent very true about filing complaint with BBB, got a new phone with apology from some exec at Tmobile. Thanks BBB. | |
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join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO
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| Re: Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent said by ptrowski :said by ender7074 :"What? Problems you say? Thats unpossible! It's Apple. See the little logo of the apple on the box? They don't have problems. Now look at the touchscreen." -- Apple Development Team This problem is one of many that a friend of mine and his wife had. 3G didnt work, both phones had horrible lag problems when browsing things like contacts, programs would crash, and the phone would just reboot for no reason. They had to trade in their phones at least three times. Last time, with the exact same problems, Apple told them to get lost and wouldn't replace the phones. Refused to honor the warranty even though their Genius Bar confirmed it was all phone problems and nothing they did but still refused to replace the phones. Makes me want to run out and buy one... So your friend and his wife got 6 bum phones all in a row? He replaced his 3 times and hers went in twice. He was taking his in for the 4th time when they told him tough crap, our phone doesnt work right but forget the warranty... oh and you dont get your money back either. AT&T gave them Blackberry Pearls and those have worked flawlessly for about 2 weeks now. | |
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join:2004-10-05
Independence, MO
| Re: Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent said by ender7074 :AT&T gave them Blackberry Pearls and those have worked flawlessly for about 2 weeks now. All except for the memory leak(s)?  I've got the Pearl myself, and find have to pull the battery to reset about once a week, or it'll lose call logs and the SMS Inbox. | |
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| Couch Potato
What?
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Evansville, IN | THAT is why I don't own anything from Apple. | |
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| | riblet2000
join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL | Re: Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent iLaugh at the iPhone.
This is going to require a recall. No way around it Stevie. Man up, take the stock price hit and do the right thing. For once. | |
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| I am having the exact same problems with my iPhone 3G. The bad part as that all the issues, constant freezing of the phone and reboots, to no longer being able to download and install apps from the phone all started about 30 days after I purchased the phone.
So far today my phone has rebooted itself may 20+ times w/constant freezing for minutes before it responds. I have not really had issues with droppped calls. But it switches alot between Edge and 3g.
So far the phone has sucked big time.
Anyone know how to do a hard reset when the phone quits responding?
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join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL | Re: Apple told my friends with this problem to get bent Big hammer. Hard surface.
You've got a permanent lemon. Either take it back or just live with the fact that Steve Jobs stole your money. | |
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join:2002-11-19
Canada
| Re: I don't get it said by gopnick : Why all the Apple love/hate? And what is DSLR's obsession with the iPhone? Ask your man Jobs - he's the one who created the buzz - ask that idiot what's up. Find out why the iphone is a poor design while your at it. | |
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| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| said by gopnick :Why this ridiculous amount of press over ONE product? My users who have the iPhone love it. No dropped calls, none of the problems described here... any product is going to have a statistical number of them with problems. Why all the Apple love/hate? And what is DSLR's obsession with the iPhone? Cannot take some bad press??? Come on ...this has been one of the most hyped products this year. Is not DSLR's obsession...is your users obsessions with this product that had them lineup to buy it and spend hundreds what cause the amount of press.
Why apple does not own to the problem? At least MS did with the xbox RROD and set aside a billion for repairs and extended the warranty to a year.... | |
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Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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| said by gopnick : And what is DSLR's obsession with the iPhone? I dunno, the fact that 11 MILLION people worldwide have one??
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Hingham, MA | Re: I don't get it Where does this number come from? I mean, you can't just add up 2G sales and 3G sales, since obviously some of those 2G owners are upgrading (and therefore have two iPhones, I guess)... | |
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N3OGH
Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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| Re: I don't get it said by EPS :Where does this number come from? I mean, you can't just add up 2G sales and 3G sales, since obviously some of those 2G owners are upgrading (and therefore have two iPhones, I guess)... OK, fine. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that every 2G iPhone went in a desk drawer never to see the light of day again upon the user purchasing a 3G iPhone. On that note..
"And what is DSLR's obsession with the iPhone?"
I dunno, the fact that 10 MILLION people worldwide have one??"
For the record, I don't own an iPhone, I have a Treo 700 WX with Windows Smart phone 5.0
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| said by gopnick :Why this ridiculous amount of press over ONE product? My users who have the iPhone love it. No dropped calls, none of the problems described here... any product is going to have a statistical number of them with problems. Why all the Apple love/hate? And what is DSLR's obsession with the iPhone? It's interesting, isn't it? So many parts to the puzzle ...
But we can't deny that people are having problems with iPhones; that would be silly. That's like claiming there were no problems with MobileMe and Apple gave members 90 days of free service for the F of it.
You have the cellphone generation equation, the iPod generation factor, and the old guard from when Apple was Apple Computer and not Apple Inc. coming together under a banner of hype backed by Chinese mass assembly lines under economic stress and QC/QA problems (partly because they're overseas to begin with). It must be a real mess to manage.
To answer your question, I'd say the stories sell themselves. If iPhone stories didn't generate hits I doubt the site would publish them on the front page.
The Love/Hate question is a tougher nut. Brand evangelism; corporate identification - the pathologies are endless.
It's safe to say that the iPod generation doesn't really care so much for various reasons (Daddy bought the phone?), the iPhone acolytes love the thing like a red-headed stepchild, and the old-guard get their panties in a twist whenever an Apple boo-boo gets more attention than they think it should. It's hard to separate out the phones from the pods from the notebooks from the desktops for some people.
I think the gadget thing will fatten the bottom line but flatten the computer line in the end. One thing is for sure; this is putting stress on support costs, and exchanges and freebies will, at some point, have to stop as a way to make the baby stop crying.
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| said by gopnick :My users who have the iPhone love it. No dropped calls, none of the problems described here... That's been my experience as well. Everything is working as advertised.
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Naples, FL
| Wazza matta? Get your dick caught in your MacBook Pro lid again?
Geez, how about addressing the facts of the article instead of bashing someone who posts their honest opinion? It's called being on topic. Try it sometime. She's more on topic here than your are. | |
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East Lyme, CT | LOLOL O YA THE IPHONE'S A PIECE OF SHIT I GET IT LOLZ
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qball15j
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Chevy Chase, MD | No issues here I haven't had any issues with my 3G signal since the upgrade. Seems they have fixed a few bugs in the music playback app. I can flip through shuffle mode at a fairly rapid pace without it crashing. | |
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join:2008-01-23
West Milford, NJ
| GPS problems are real. Innacuracy and some other bugs. I've also noticed that maps tries to hook a wifi first which makes NO sense, really. Also, possibly only related to MY iPhone but after the 2.0.2 update my photo syncs are all out of whack. Photos are in wrong folders, duplicate photos in folders. All screwed up. | |
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join:2002-07-04
Baltimore, MD
| Apps Stopped Working All my downloaded apps stopped working after the upgrade. Luckily, a someone posted a fix online. You have to remove one of your apps and add it back. Other than that, things seem to be fine.
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join:2007-07-31
East Lyme, CT | Not that many, actually. There are a few small bugs (SMS lag still comes up here and there after upgrading to 2.0.2), but then when I remembered my last phone was WinMo-based, I realized things could be a lot worse. | |
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join:2007-09-17 | QA in the cell biz Welcome to the cellbiz Apple. It take 6-10 months of QA testing across each country to get a quality product out the door in the cell biz. It's not the same game as the PC biz. Much to learn my young padawan. | |
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divideBYzero
join:2002-05-29
Bass Harbor, ME
| No problems here... I had a few dropped calls yesterday but none of them happened today. We also had dense fog and bad weather yesterday so I can hardly attribute them to the update. So far it has been smooth sailing and the GPS does seem to work better. I can't comment on the 3G issue as I live in a small area where there is no 3G. Edge works fine though if I have a signal.
I'm on Mount Desert Island and I get my cell signal from another island near by. There are also a lot of hills and mountains here the phone has to contend with but it works in places other people say there phone won't work so I'm happy.
Overall I'm happy with the 2.0.2 update, although I do know one person who was not so lucky and he lost all his apps. I just think there are a lot more people without problems not writing about it than there are people with problems that are writing about it. | |
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| not really looking forward to buy it... the iPhone is coming here in Brazil later this year (they say November), and I was really excited, couldn't wait to put my hands on it...
well, since I started reading about those issues of the 3G connection, kinda lost "the shine in my eyes"...
guess I'll go with a Nokia N95, or maybe some smartphone by HTC (which are really good, actually, and cheap). | |
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join:2008-05-22
| Windows Mobile... Obviously the memory of some of users' here are short lived and don't remember the turds that were the first couple of versions of Palm OS and Windows Mobile.
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join:2003-12-08
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| Re: Windows Mobile... yeah, but where was the iPhone then? They are supposed to learn from others mistakes...not repeat them.
Funny, my old Treo 750 doesnt have any of these problems....runs great AND I get a dedicated keyboard.
Now corps are going to steer way clear of this thing.
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| Re: Windows Mobile... Yeah, because every new product is perfect the first time around...
You sound like someone who either hates Apple or has totally unrealistic expectations of new devices/technology/products.
Most products have issues and bugs in them for the first few generations.
As for your quip that Apple can't get 3G right, they have been producing phones for a little more than a year. Companies like Sony, for example, have been producing products for YEARS and still have problems with some of their products.
And your comparison of the Palm 750 to the 3G iPhone is seriously flawed. The iPhone is a second gen product from Apple, whereas the Palm 750 is at least a fifth generation product.
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | i'd love to be a fly on the wall at the iphone dev office I bet steve is standing over the bug patchers with a bullwhip and a cattle prod. FIX IT YOU FUCKING UNDERLINGS! | |
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join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL
| Re: i'd love to be a fly on the wall at the iphone dev office Jobs doesn't care one bit as long as the cash keeps rolling in. They're already telling people with broken iPhones to pound sand even though they are under warranty, and AT&T (of all companies) is trying to make things whole by exchanging for phones from other manufacturers which actually work right.
Apple is developing a fairly long history of hardware screwups. This is just the most visible, but that laptop battery fiasco awhile back was much worse. | |
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join:2000-10-24
Harrisburg, PA
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| MS fanboys I just love how all the MS fanboys love to hate Apple. When will people learn the every company has "fanboys" MS fanboys are just as bad as apple fanboys. The iPhone is changing the way companies are making phones and thats all that matters.
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| Apple's "Damage Control" So Apple has finally admitted to their new phones having "reception issues" and that the update was meant to fix these. I have not read in any forum that their poor working phone was "fixed" by the update, actually the reverse seems to be happening. someone, probably Apple, is putting it out there that the infineon chip is the problem and that it may take 6 months to fix.
DO NOT BELIEVE any of it, as a former Apple fan I am outraged that any corporation could be acting so badly. This is simply "damage control" and anyone with a phone is going to pay a price for it should they decide not to return them immediately- even those with perfect phones, while they can.
This phone is exactly what could be called "a Lemon" a combination of a rush to market, bad engineering, bad manufacturing and bad quality control is what has happened, probably with the connector between the amplifier and the antenna, which if so creates a real risk to even the working phones down the line.
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join:2005-02-12
Allen, TX | Re: Apple's "Damage Control" perhaps Jobs should go looking for the IBM engineer he was interviewing for a JOB and defecated upon so many years ago and see if the gentleman would care to hire on and show him the way to QUALITY CONTROL???? | |
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NYC
| Apple's silence is appalling Why do people keep defending Apple? They messed up. All these people with problems are not lying. My iPhone does not work properly, plain and simple. I have no reason to lie or bash Apple.
Jobs pushed a product to release that wasnt ready, now I like many others are dealing with the consequences.
There are many people who have an iPhone with issues who are willing to wait it out if Apple would just come out and admit there is a problem and let us know they will make it right one way or another.
Apple is the one who produces commercials bashing PCs, so when they fuck up, its time to get the bashing in return. They set themselves up for this, now they have to deal with it.
Im appalled as a consumer at the way Apple has handled this and I actually like Apple. Why has Apple been silent while its past present and future consumers complain about their experiences with the iPhone 3G? Why do they treat us as though we are not intelligent enough to understand if there are issues? Why not reassure us that Apple is working diligently to correct the issues? Why not inform us what is included in an update so we can make a valid judgment if our phones are not working properly even with a fix?
After this fiasco, I wont rush to get a new Apple product but wait until its been fully tested by the guinea pigs which are the general public.
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Did Apple iPhone Fix Make Problems Worse?
