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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO | False advertising And someone outta go after them for doing just that. | |
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CricketUser1
@mycricket.com | Cricket doesn't have a cap There are no overage charges for usage. I've never been charged. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap "Limited" doesn't equal "capped". | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap "limited" doesn't equal "un-limited" either. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap Correct, but what is Cricket actually stating is unlimited? Their website states "access", not usage or consumption. Sticky point that needs to be better defined and cleared up. Until then, it will remain a solid advertising tactic for several companies. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
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| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap said by openbox9  :Correct, but what is Cricket actually stating is unlimited? | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap Are you not receiving unlimited "service"? Once again, I don't see unlimited consumption, bandwidth, data transfer, or a similar term on the site. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap said by morbo :edit: there's a reason the big guys stopped advertising unlimited. lawyers were warming up to a big class action suit and the cell companies knew this. any reasonable person interprets "unlimited" to mean unlimited usage, not unlimited access. And I would suggest that if people really take issue with the word "unlimited" that they file a complaint with the FTC and take appropriate action. I'm not defending anything, merely playing devil's advocate. | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap Simply providing a potential viewpoint and line of argument that an ISP may use. I don't have a dog in the fight as I'm not a shareholder, don't work for the company, and have no intention of subscribing to their service. You can call me whatever you'd like. | |
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join:2005-09-01
| said by openbox9 :Correct, but what is Cricket actually stating is unlimited? Their website states "access", not usage or consumption. Sticky point that needs to be better defined and cleared up. Until then, it will remain a solid advertising tactic for several companies. "Unlimited 3g Broadband". Limiting to less than 256k will no longer let it qualify as broadband. Guess what they do? | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap So they'll change "Broadband" to "Access". Problem solved. | |
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join:2005-09-01
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap said by openbox9 :So they'll change "Broadband" to "Access". Problem solved. Still doesn't change the fact that their current advertisement doesn't include such carefully selected words.
Also, their usage policy allows them to completely disconnect 'trouble' users for going over 5gb. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap Have you experienced the service no longer being defined as broadband? | |
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join:2005-09-01
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap said by openbox9 :Have you experienced the service no longer being defined as broadband? Not personally, as I am leery of their service, however, users have reported being throttled down to 100k-200k, which is not really broadband. | |
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HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
| Come on seriously, unlimited means just that, unlimited as in no limits, and even states atty's are agreeing there. I am getting sick companies sticking it to the consumer. If someone like say Enterprise Rent A Car stuck "Unlimited" and actually allowed only 100 miles a day, you best bet it would be investigated by the Feds.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | I must have taken a wrong turn into the absurd semantics room. Sorry, I'll be on my way. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap You're in the right place. Definitions do matter in advertising and legal practice though. | |
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del ftl
@algx.net
| Karl,
Cricket doesn't charge overages and they dont cut you off at 5GB. Nor do they terminate you for going over like comcast with their 'abuse' department. I've seen reports of users doing 40+GB without a peep.
What it boils down to is this:
IF you go over 5GB
AND you are adversely affecting the service to other subscribers
Then you may get throttled back.
No waking up and finding your modem disabled and having to call 'abuse' and hear them out to get back online. No 8000+ dollar aircard bills for overages.
If you were in Cricket marketing. How would you describe their service as they do not limit the total amount you can download a month nor when you can/cant access it. | |
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| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap If you were in Cricket marketing. How would you describe their service as they do not limit the total amount you can download a month nor when you can/cant access it. Given their terms of service and own website suggests a 5GB monthly limit, how about anything other than "unlimited"?
"adversely affecting the service to other subscribers" is a nebulous phrase, and consumers should get concrete definitions on precisely how much consumption is too much. | |
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@algx.net
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap Karl,
The 5GB is not so much a 'limit' as it is a threshold.
Also, the "wrist slapping" you refer to in your article was for carriers (vzw/att etc..) that either cut you off or charged overages WHILE advertising as unlimited.
Cricket does neither.
What you are complaining about is a cover our butts clause that is only enforced in extreme circumstances.
You may be interested to know that when you sign up for unlimited voice minutes with verizon. This is in the fine print:
"WE CAN, WITHOUT NOTICE, LIMIT, SUSPEND OR END YOUR SERVICE OR ANY AGREEMENT WITH YOU FOR THIS OR ANY OTHER GOOD CAUSE including, but not limited to: " ......" uses the service in a way that adversely affects our network or other customers. "....
"We can also temporarily limit your service for any operational or governmental reason."
I expect you will now treat the big 4 carriers and their advertised unlimited voice/text/data in the same fashion? | |
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join:2005-09-01
1 edit | def, they advertise unlimited 'broadband'. By throttling users to below accepted broadband definitions, they are no longer offering 'unlimited broadband'.
Oh, and these ominous words in their 'important information':
We reserve the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred, and to deny, modify or terminate service, without notice, to anyone whose usage adversely impacts our network, service levels or uses more than 5 GB in a given month. | |
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del ftl
@algx.net
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap said by Necronomikro :def, they advertise unlimited 'broadband'. By throttling users to below accepted broadband definitions, they are no longer offering 'unlimited broadband'. How far do they throttle them? What's the definition of 'broadband'?
You are aware that they pretty much dont throttle anyone right? | |
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join:2005-09-01 | Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap FCC defines broadband as 256k.
Some users report being throttled to 100k-200k.
When throttled, they're not receiving 'broadband' speeds. | |
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del ftl
@algx.net
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap FCC actually defines it at 768k
Which is more than many un-throttled 3G aircards from any carrier get on a regular basis.
So by your argument then, this has nothing to do with "unlimited". Your position is that they (and any carrier who can't consistently serve 768k+) should not be able to sell "Broadband". | |
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join:2005-09-01
| Re: Cricket doesn't have a cap said by del ftl :
FCC actually defines it at 768k
Which is more than many un-throttled 3G aircards from any carrier get on a regular basis.
So by your argument then, this has nothing to do with "unlimited". Your position is that they (and any carrier who can't consistently serve 768k+) should not be able to sell "Broadband".
Fair points, but, yeah, they shouldn't be able to sell 'broadband' or 'high speed', unless they can fulfill that offer.
Even if they start calling it 'high speed'... their capped speed doesn't really qualify under any reasonable definition, so no advertising 'unlimited high speed' for them, either. | |
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@verizon.com | cricket "unlimited" data plan has a 5GB cap. a 5GB limit is what i would consider to be a cap | |
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VashTS
@verizon.com
| Metro the same? I don't see where there's a cap on metro but I did read
"In addition, the Service may be used only for voice communications and may not be used to transmit data, or for any other one-way transmission application other than data Services expressly offered to you by Metro PCS. You may not resell the Service. You also may not use the Service in a manner that is intended to cause or results in interference to, or causes problems with, the operation of Metro PCS's wireless system or other communications systems."
The fact that the speed is close to dial up I don't think anyone would be using it for downloading. I know I just use the web when I'm tethered in the car or in an area that doesn't have wifi. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: hmmmm I don't see "unlimited data" on Cricket's website. My guess is that they'll justify the word unlimited similarly to how ISPs have done it in the past. Unlimited means connectivity or access (i.e. we don't count your minutes when you're connected) and it doesn't imply unlimited bandwidth consumption. | |
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join:2006-03-23
Charleston, SC
| They Should Know Better I have seen their ads that come in the mail. I read 'unlimited" and looked further and found it is not unlimited service. Using the word UNLIMITED seems a good way of selling until it catches people by surprise.
Unlimited defined according to the dictionary:
un⋅lim⋅it⋅ed
Spelled Pronunciation [uhn-lim-i-tid]
–adjective
1. not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.
2. boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.
3. without any qualification or exception; unconditional.
The providers are liars, plain and simple. | |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs:
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| New higher prices? I thought the pricing was a little off so I looked...
It appears the press release is featuring they will have new retail centers (resellers) selling it, not the plans themselves.
The Broadband plan would be $10 more than it is today (at least in Omaha) but the voice plans appear to be the same cost as today. Am I missing something? | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: New higher prices? Yeah that's what I was wondering. Maybe this is a prepaid deal instead of monthly like CricKet's normal plans... | |
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DaMattster
@americawest.com | Re: New higher prices? I have Cricket Broadband and just read this myself. So, the modem is dropping in price, no activation, and the monthly service shoots up? Where is the advantage? | |
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@algx.net
| Cricket has different prices in different markets.
for example:
Southern texas has unlimited
* talk
* long distance
* text & pix
* mexico text
* caller ID
for 25 a month.
add unlimited
* mobile web
* 411 directory assistance
* caller ID, call waiting, 3-way calling & voicemail
and it comes to 35 a month. | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
| Re: New higher prices? I imagine this has to do with the insanely marked up prices Verizon and AT&T are STILL allowed to charge for their special access lines.
If the FCC ever decides to smack down those incumbents and their duopolistic pricing on the middle mile, we'll see wireless service prices from competitors drop significantly. | |
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join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN
| Re: New higher prices? said by sonicmerlin :I imagine this has to do with the insanely marked up prices Verizon and AT&T are STILL allowed to charge for their special access lines. If the FCC ever decides to smack down those incumbents and their duopolistic pricing on the middle mile, we'll see wireless service prices from competitors drop significantly. I hope so. | |
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| Cricket service isn't to bad I live in a cricket serviced area and you can't beat them for voice plans! 35 for unlimited text pic text voice and 411 you can't beat that! there coverage is limited but if your traveling add some money to the flex thing and you can roam I only added 15 dollars and lasted me a whole trip. Most major markets have cricket. | |
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New name for service that offers less that 1 Meg downloads.
I suggest that any carrier that offers Internet Access at a data rate of less than 1.5Mb down, be required by law to refer to that service, as "NARROWBAND SERVICE!", in all advertising and documentation.