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(old news - 09:17AM Tuesday May 17 2005)
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Just three years ago, customers in Cox's Virginia territory were victims of four digit ping times and abysmal service. 2005 finds unsubstantiated rumblings in our Cox forum that the company might be upgrading their standard speeds in the region to 5Mbps, with Fios competition leading to the testing of a 15Mbps premier tier. Note: none of this has been confirmed in any way by official Cox representatives.

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Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK

Why not the midwest.

Why does it always have to be NOVA that gets the latest and greatest in technology? I'm willing to bet that Oklahoma would also be a good testing ground, I think we deserve that much at least.
xrobertcmx
Premium
join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
clubs:

Re: Why not the midwest.

To be honest, I think it is because we are a larger market. Fairfax county is heavily populated. It is also about visibilty.
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Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK

Re: Why not the midwest.

I know, I used to live there. Those were the tech days...

qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX

said by Derch See Profile:

Why does it always have to be NOVA that gets the latest and greatest in technology? I'm willing to bet that Oklahoma would also be a good testing ground, I think we deserve that much at least.
Uh, you think it might have something to do with it's proximity to D.C.???
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
Premium
join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA

Re: Why not the midwest.

Not entirely. Northern Virginia is a wealthy area with a lot of private business in addition to lots of government workers and government contractors.

qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX

Re: Why not the midwest.

said by bokamba See Profile:

Not entirely. Northern Virginia is a wealthy area with a lot of private business in addition to lots of government workers and government contractors.
Why sure "follow the money".
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Don't get me wrong, I love America, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But America often reminds of "Wackyland" in that old Porky Pig cartoon when he was looking for the Dodo. Wackyland's motto was "It can happen here."
dipdewdog

join:2003-11-07
Washington, DC
Verizon is also aggressively rolling out FIOS here in NoVA; and Cox doesn't want to be left in the dust.
karlj1

join:2004-01-25
Ottawa, ON
If these guys are anything like Rogers....

Big Freaking Bandwidth....iddy, biddy download caps.

I'd like to see what they would do if someone actually used a 15MB connection 24/7.

redshark
Bloody Redsharks
Premium
join:2001-03-14
Alexandria, VA

Re: So What?

60GB per month cap.
»www.cox.com/policy/limitations.asp

Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK

Re: So What?

That's for Premier speeds, it's 40GB for Premium.
LoftyDan

join:2002-10-22
Victoria, BC
Does Cox actually enfore those limits in your region? I go over my daily limit and monthly all the time, and if taking into account the other users on my network, it's way over. Have yet to hear a word about it from Cox.
deadzoned
Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
·Cox HSI

Wow!

That would be pretty cool to have my hands on that type of speed. I dunno what I would do with it, but I darn well would try and find something to do with it.

BTW, why is it that they cannot increase our uploads at all?! Screw the downloads, give me some more upload room!

Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs:

Re: Wow!

Did you not notice the upstream value? Its set at 2mbps. By my eyes, thats an increase of just over 100% of the highest upstream Cox offers right now.
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tommytomtom

join:2002-08-15
Springfield, VA

New speeds now twice confirmed by Cox reps.

I checked with Cox a couple weeks ago and was told about the switch to DOCSIS 2.0 and the impending speed increases. This was confirmed again last night when I called support about very slow upload speeds; I was told that my speeds would soon be 5/2 and the higher tier would be 15/2, with the prices remaining the same. I am guessing that the occasional slow uploads people are getting are due to the switchover being made.

You call Cox to verify for yourself, and then ask why they will be charging $60 a year more than Verizon FIOS for the 15/2 speeds. If they want to compete, I would like to see them compete on speed and prices. Who knows, maybe if enough people call Cox will lower the 15/2 price to $49.95 a month like Verizon.

I have no inside information; I am only going by what I have been told by Cox reps.

Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK

Re: New speeds now twice confirmed by Cox reps.

Honestly, if SBC rolled out FIOS and Cox followed with DOCSIS 2.0, I'd probably try to go with SBC because I want my own dedicated bandwidth.

FlyByMain

@208.17.x.x

Re: New speeds now twice confirmed by Cox reps.

All access is shared. You dont get true "dedicated".
griff1013

join:2002-01-10
Virginia Beach, VA

FIOS does not have dedicated bandwidth. The beauty of FIOS is that it uses IP so they can do away with the circuit switch network. You are aggregated with everyone else on your node. It is actually very similar to the Cox network except Cox uses coax for the last bit to the home.

VerizonNetworkBW

@verizon.n


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imtim83 See Profile

Re: New speeds now twice confirmed by Cox reps.

The fiber to the node is guaranteed. If by any means verizon gets 100% coverage on a node (unlikely, but if so) they would upgrade with upgraded node/ONT's to proceed to the next generation wtihout running new wires-- lots of docsis 1.0, 1.1 cablemodems are in use.. those are paperweights when the full conversion to docsis 2.0 is in full swing! Same goes to ont's but verizon has made it a point for the INTERFACE to be TOTALLY their responsibility to upgrade to gigabit passive optical netowork... since all the other equipment is in place it would take maybe 1-2 hours per home to switch it over if/when necessary.. but for your info, everyone on the node could theoretcally get 100mbit symmetric before this would become an issue (per node) without slowdown.
cableguy619

join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

said by Derch See Profile:

Honestly, if SBC rolled out FIOS and Cox followed with DOCSIS 2.0, I'd probably try to go with SBC because I want my own dedicated bandwidth.
sbc is rolling towards their light speed project, fiber to the node and something else to go with it...i think it will come towards the end of the year when they start to roll out IPTV..

GunGrave

join:2005-03-22
Stafford, VA
FIOS is actually replacing lines and distributing more lines to places that dont have cable
Turbocpe
Premium
join:2001-12-22
IA


2 edits

four digit ping times?

A lot of the cable ISPs here get flack for their past issues, but Mediacom seems to dodge the bullet here with their past issues.

I've seen four digit ping times myself, on a 2nd hop router, so I likely wasn't the only one. To be fair, it doesn't sustain this exact pattern for a long periods of time, it is more intermittent.

However, I understand that Mediacom is small, and their issues don't affect as many people as these bigger ISPs. But still, those bigger ISPs are not the only ones that have these types of problems.

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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX

In other news Verizon Responds to cable's new spee

In other news Verizon Responds to cable's new speeds by doubling current customer download speeds and making service symetric. Now customers enjoy 60/60M 30/30M and 10/10M respectively.

Ivan Sedinberg was quoted as saying "Let Cable Top That!"

coxananman

@noaa.gov

Re: In other news Verizon Responds to cable's new spee

Now I hear Cox responds to that by offering individual OC-192's to every customer.

Gokou2k3

join:2003-08-05
Tehachapi, CA

1 edit

Re: In other news Verizon Responds to cable's new

said by coxananman:

Now I hear Cox responds to that by offering individual OC-192's to every customer.
In your dreams....But 15mbps cable? And SBC still only offers 3mbps.

Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK

1 edit

Re: In other news Verizon Responds to cable's new

I think it will be a very long time before SBC rolls out anything associated with FIOS... at least in my area. So I guess there won't be any real competition, and thus no speed wars in Oklahoma.
jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA

wow - just think all the pr0n

Yipppp - all the pr0n download in seconds?
How about the upload?

rideboarder
welcome to the social
Premium
join:2003-07-28
Snohomish, WA
clubs:

Re: wow - just think all the pr0n

until you hit the 60GB download cap...
the niTz
Premium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ
·Cox HSI

Re: wow - just think all the pr0n

im thinking that they'll probably get rid of the caps once the upgrades go through and do what vz did, warn u after crazy uploading, either that or they'll loose ppl to vz either way
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crazymerlin

join:2006-10-12
Queen Creek, AZ

more than likely

When we had a tech install our new line a couple of weeks back, he told me that they are considering a 15meg line here. I live in AZ, btw.

Coming from a tech I'd say it's more likely.

//erlin!
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