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Chicago, IL | Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Sadly they have become one in the same. Most politicians go to work in the private sector after there careers are over.
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join:2005-12-22
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government No but some ISPs are in for a rude awakening after Barack Obama moves into the White House. While government funds will remain limited the regulatory climate that allowed those ISPs to ignore the digital divide will change dramatically. | |
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Case in point. Obama was the higher bidder. Selfish idiots like this guy voted him based on the promise that Obama would use the police power of government to kick in their neighbor's door, take stuff, and give it to him. | |
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Shelbyville, KY | Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. What is this country coming to. | |
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join:2002-08-22
Wallingford, CT
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by Singular :Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else.
Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. | |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by skrupowies :said by Singular :Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. Yeah its crazy, just the other day I was telling my wife how frustrating low our taxes are! Thankfully I am very patriotic, and so the idea of more taxes really gets me excited. I personally eagerly look forward to paying more taxes, so I for one am glad Oops-bama got elected. The best (and most fun!) part of this is figuring out where to come up with the extra money I will need after my "spread the wealth" payments go up. 
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Troy Mcclure
join:2001-11-13
Enumclaw, WA
 ·Qwest.net
| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes.
Bush's group is making the country socialist for the rich, capitalistic for the rest. | |
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by wifi4milez :said by jinjimbob :Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Not sure where you came up with that bogus statement, as countries such as France have a total taxation of close to 72%. In reality, Americans, in 1988, paid up to 92% of their income in taxes. You need to consider the 'hidden' taxes--like those passed down to the consumer by manufacturers in the price of goods. The biggie though is inflation. More correctly, monetary depreciation. The government prints paper and gets the full value of it the first time it uses the paper, but by the time it trickles down to the public, the increase in paper circulating has reduced the market value of those dollars. So the government taxes you via inflation, the most cleverly-disguised tax.
Why else would the guy earning $100,000 only have about $8,000 or less in disposable income? | |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by disconnected :
So the government taxes you via inflation, the most cleverly-disguised tax.
That makes no sense at all. The government in no way benefits from inflation, so it cant be grouped with taxation.
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Why else would the guy earning $100,000 only have about $8,000 or less in disposable income?
That doesnt make any sense either, and it is impossible to answer that. There are a multitude of things that we would need to know before we can even begin to analyze this. Such as, where does that person live, how much is his rent, does he have terrible rate on a mortgage, how big is his family, etc. etc. etc.
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join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO
| said by jinjimbob :Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Bush's group is making the country socialist for the rich, capitalistic for the rest. Totally wrong ... why would you even write something like this? Do a little research before making a fool of yourself in a public forum. | |
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by AlexNYC :said by jinjimbob :Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Bush's group is making the country socialist for the rich, capitalistic for the rest. Totally wrong ... why would you even write something like this? Do a little research before making a fool of yourself in a public forum. His comment gave me a laugh thats for sure!
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by skrupowies :said by Singular :Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. '
Please do you actually believe the crap you spew are are you just trying to get something started? The Cold War ended 17 years ago. get over yourself there is no commie invasion coming. Talk about tin foil hat club | |
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by BF69 :The Cold War ended 17 years ago. get over yourself there is no commie invasion coming. Talk about tin foil hat club I think the Republic of Georgia thought the same thing.
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Edwards, CO | The commie invasion just started ... "we the people" voted it in. | |
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Woodbridge, VA
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| said by skrupowies :said by Singular :Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. Many ,m any aspecxts of this country are already socialist. This nothing new. Pure capitalosm doesn't work and pure communism doesn't work. | |
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Titus Pullo
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join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| said by Singular :Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. What is this country coming to. Gee, the current administration just took a Trillion dollars and spread it around to financial dolts to do with as they see fit to "bail us out."
People squeal like pigs when they think some liburul is going to fleece them to finance crack addicts but bend over for bankers and Hedge funds. Unreal.
The hypocrisy is frightening, and I don't know whether it's ideology or ignorance. If you make less than 250K a year under Obama's plan you won't see a penny of money taken from you and spread around. If it turns out he lied it won't be hard to catch. All the man is calling for (so far) is basically a return to Clinton's tax policies.
Back on topic, please. Most people here can't discuss politics rationally.
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join:2002-12-23
Kissimmee, FL | Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Well said. | |
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join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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| said by Titus Pullo :Gee, the current administration just took a Trillion dollars and spread it around to financial dolts to do with as they see fit to "bail us out." People squeal like pigs when they think some liburul is going to fleece them to finance crack addicts but bend over for bankers and Hedge funds. Unreal. Many conservatives that believe that are not even business owners, just average Joe Plumbers (who may not even be plumbers) who make much less and have little to no hope of ever making millions... yet they still believe that giving big businesses free reign to do as they please and putting all taxpayers money to them in hard times is the best course of action. Got news for you: You may not like government and think it is an amoral and corrupt entity, but big businesses with no oversight are no shining angels either (as much as you want to think that).
said by Titus Pullo :The hypocrisy is frightening, and I don't know whether it's ideology or ignorance. If you make less than 250K a year under Obama's plan you won't see a penny of money taken from you and spread around. If it turns out he lied it won't be hard to catch. All the man is calling for (so far) is basically a return to Clinton's tax policies. And under McCain's plan most of them would get a very minimal tax cut while big businesses got huge ones. They would have had spending freezes on everything except military, potentially hurting everything from education and research to infrastructure and emergency protection. Businesses would be getting more "free market" (eg. letting businesses do as they please and expecting them to never use corrupt practices) potentially bringing about a second "housing" collapse in a different industry. That never sounded good to me.
I am not one for massive regulation on anything, but COME ON! The reason the banks and housing industries collapsed is because they had no oversight and no regulation whatsoever. They were given free reign to do whatever and they clearly did. We certainly don't need massive regulation but we don't need NO regulation either.
I at least have faith that Obama will use sound judgment and not go completely far left on everything. He seems to have gone middle-of-the-road where-as McCain seemed to go from middle-right to far-right.
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join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government See my comment re discussing politics rationally. The two points you make don't apply to me or my views; you completely miss the mark on where I stand politically or socially. People simply don't read, think, or interpret critically on these - and most other - forums. How you drew the conclusions you did are well beyond my pay grade 
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by Titus Pullo :See my comment re discussing politics rationally. The two points you make don't apply to me or my views; you completely miss the mark on where I stand politically or socially. People simply don't read, think, or interpret critically on these - and most other - forums. How you drew the conclusions you did are well beyond my pay grade -- If you had bothered to read my post: I was agreeing with you. I was mainly adding my own opinion to the topic to get my point across. I never said I was trying to undermine or speak for you or whatever you thought I was doing. I think you misunderstood my post.
said by Titus Pullo :How you drew the conclusions you did are well beyond my pay grade Clearly...
P.S. - You said it, not me.
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join:2002-04-12
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by knightmb :Sounds like a sore voter. The election is over, time to move on. Save the smear stuff for the 2012 election.  Riiiggghhht.
Just like all you liberals 'got over' the last two elections and moved on.
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clubs: | Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government While not a Bush voter and well 'over' the two previous elections, comparing this landslide election to the previous two doesn't really make your point.
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join:2005-10-15
Tampa, FL
| Look for the YouTube video of Obama at the Google campus and see what an intelligent politician says about technology and net access. Did you complain when telcos were subsidized billions to get broad band into more homes and then they failed the last mile? | |
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Mount Airy, MD
| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by metatron66 :Look for the YouTube video of Obama at the Google campus and see what an intelligent politician says about technology and net access. Did you complain when telcos were subsidized billions to get broad band into more homes and then they failed the last mile? What are you talking about? Far more people have broadband now than ever before due solely to the investments made by private companies.
This isn't the late 1990s anymore. Just about anyplace reasonably close to civilization can get broadband.
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join:2002-04-04
Lancaster, CA | It is funny to see how people think that with Obama in the White House that everything will magically be better and all ills will be fixed. I am sorry to say some people will be let down. One man can't fix everything. | |
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Good 'ol Cali.
join:2007-05-03
California
·Comcast
| Wow. All I see from this story is, "The husband mentioned here is a HUGE ass!"
Is lack of a GOOD internet connection really a reason to MOVE, get a NEW MORTGAGE, LEAVE AN AREA YOU LOVE... just for a stupid internet connection?
Barack Obama and his administration will help with this "dilemma" (most likely.. not immediately... the economy, energy, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are probably first), but I don't see how a junk internet connection is good grounds for moving.
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join:2001-09-24
Dayton, OH | Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Don't know the dude in the story.
As far as junk Internet connection being good grounds for moving? Have you ever been a telecommuter for any length of time?
I am, and a "junk Internet connection" to me IS a big deal. | |
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| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by Radioman991 :Don't know the dude in the story. As far as junk Internet connection being good grounds for moving? Have you ever been a telecommuter for any length of time? I am, and a "junk Internet connection" to me IS a big deal. I may not move intentionally just for a fast cable connection, but if I did move, it would be a MAJOR factor in where I moved to!
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| | | joquarky
join:2008-07-29
Boynton Beach, FL
| said by crapmac :Is lack of a GOOD internet connection really a reason to MOVE, get a NEW MORTGAGE, LEAVE AN AREA YOU LOVE... just for a stupid internet connection? Dial-up is no longer sufficient for normal internet access. The web is not optimized for dial-up users anymore and our society is starting to assume the ubiquity of broadband internet access the same way people assumed everyone had a phone line a couple decades ago.
I spend my weekends with family who can not get broadband internet access. I can tell you from personal experience that a lack of broadband internet access is like living a decade in the past. In some respects it's even worse, because at least in the 90s, websites were designed for a dialup majority.
Here are some examples of home life without broadband:
•You can't practically use any video sites (youtube, streaming Netflix, etc). One of the cultural consequences of this is that this part of my family misses out on a lot of the popular jokes that get around these days (and even make it onto TV programs, but without any background explanation).
•You can't enjoy the benefits of taking an online university class, since most require a broadband connection. This has caused a problem for at least one family member where the class was only offered online.
•It takes at least 15 minutes (although more like a half hour) just to navigate an online store, view zoomed images, read reviews, download samples, and check out.
•Sites which use AJAX functions assume everyone has broadband, which means they fail to provide proper feedback (e.g., "Please Wait") during an asynchronous request, causing Javascript errors or other problems navigating the site.
•You can't just "hop on and look up something real quick". It is far faster to pull out an old encyclopedia off their bookshelf and search for an article than to wait for the dial-up connection to synchronize and then pulling up a search on Wikipedia. On top of that, you're lucky if a dead tree encyclopedia even has the article you're interested in.
•Checking email is a much more tedious ordeal; dial-up users will check their email much less frequently than broadband users, and will generally not be "around" for IM communications. My family treats checking email more like a chore than a communications medium, due to the time needed to connect and wait for pages to load.
•Magazines are still more convenient than keeping up to date on topics of interest via the web on dial-up
•While out of the house, you can't connect back home to manage a home network or home automation, check your security system, remotely control your PC, watch a slingbox, etc.
•You can't play 95% of online games. Forget anything multiplayer on the Xbox or PS3.
I think people who have become accustomed to broadband forget just how much slower dial-up is. Not only that, but these days most everything has been built up on the internet to assume everybody has broadband, making it even worse now than before.
Part of the extra fees that telcos collected in the 90s was supposed to provide the funds to expand broadband infrastructure to everybody. That never panned out, but the telcos got to keep the $200 billion in extra fees that they were allowed to collect during that time.
It's easy for people who already have broadband to sit back and not care, but there are still a lot people out there who never got what they paid for, and the majority with broadband have no interest in petitioning along with them. When I see the kind of indignation from the above quote, it tells me that this is unlikely to change any time soon. | |
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Good 'ol Cali.
join:2007-05-03
California
·Comcast
| Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by joquarky :said by crapmac :Is lack of a GOOD internet connection really a reason to MOVE, get a NEW MORTGAGE, LEAVE AN AREA YOU LOVE... just for a stupid internet connection? Dial-up is no longer sufficient for normal internet access. The web is not optimized for dial-up users anymore and our society is starting to assume the ubiquity of broadband internet access the same way people assumed everyone had a phone line a couple decades ago. I spend my weekends with family who can not get broadband internet access. I can tell you from personal experience that a lack of broadband internet access is like living a decade in the past. In some respects it's even worse, because at least in the 90s, websites were designed for a dialup majority. Here are some examples of home life without broadband:
•You can't practically use any video sites (youtube, streaming Netflix, etc). One of the cultural consequences of this is that this part of my family misses out on a lot of the popular jokes that get around these days (and even make it onto TV programs, but without any background explanation).
•You can't enjoy the benefits of taking an online university class, since most require a broadband connection. This has caused a problem for at least one family member where the class was only offered online.
•It takes at least 15 minutes (although more like a half hour) just to navigate an online store, view zoomed images, read reviews, download samples, and check out.
•Sites which use AJAX functions assume everyone has broadband, which means they fail to provide proper feedback (e.g., "Please Wait") during an asynchronous request, causing Javascript errors or other problems navigating the site.
•You can't just "hop on and look up something real quick". It is far faster to pull out an old encyclopedia off their bookshelf and search for an article than to wait for the dial-up connection to synchronize and then pulling up a search on Wikipedia. On top of that, you're lucky if a dead tree encyclopedia even has the article you're interested in.
•Checking email is a much more tedious ordeal; dial-up users will check their email much less frequently than broadband users, and will generally not be "around" for IM communications. My family treats checking email more like a chore than a communications medium, due to the time needed to connect and wait for pages to load.
•Magazines are still more convenient than keeping up to date on topics of interest via the web on dial-up
•While out of the house, you can't connect back home to manage a home network or home automation, check your security system, remotely control your PC, watch a slingbox, etc.
•You can't play 95% of online games. Forget anything multiplayer on the Xbox or PS3.
I think people who have become accustomed to broadband forget just how much slower dial-up is. Not only that, but these days most everything has been built up on the internet to assume everybody has broadband, making it even worse now than before. Part of the extra fees that telcos collected in the 90s was supposed to provide the funds to expand broadband infrastructure to everybody. That never panned out, but the telcos got to keep the $200 billion in extra fees that they were allowed to collect during that time. It's easy for people who already have broadband to sit back and not care, but there are still a lot people out there who never got what they paid for, and the majority with broadband have no interest in petitioning along with them. When I see the kind of indignation from the above quote, it tells me that this is unlikely to change any time soon. True. Very true.
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| Re: The truth,the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! ALL of the examples given are so true because I live it every single day.
I've been on dial-up ever since I first got a home computer 10 years ago. I, unfortunately, live in an area where dial-up is the only thing available. I don't even consider satellite as an option because something as expensive as satellite internet shouldn't suck as hard as it does.
As if using a 26.4Kbps dial-up connection wasn't bad enough, I have to put up with the fact that there is broadband access all around me. DSL and cable services are both a few miles to the right and left of my house. They just don't reach my area and that pisses me off like crazy!
Friends and family make fun of me because I often complain about not being able to view streaming media sites like YouTube or social networking sites like MySpace and Facebook. I have to stay away from entertainment websites because they are downright loaded with tons of flash animation. Most websites in general take too long to load. Downloading any file over freakin' 10MB seems like a chore. I'm still playing my PS2 because I can't get broadband in order to take full advantage of an Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii.
I don't use e-mail anymore because it's so damn hard on dial-up. I can't even keep my computer updated and organized because I don't have the speed. To make matters even worse, I have a small job in computer repair and maintenance. I barely get my work done.
Bottom line, I feel like I'm stuck in 1998 and everything else has left me in the dust. Most people out there don't realize how bad dial-up is. I can't believe there are people out there who don't even realize that it still exist. I can assure you that dial-up does exist and it's a problem that I deal with every day.
If I could afford to move right now for a much better internet connection, I would definitely do it. | |
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1. 200mbps everywhere by 2015.
2. Cost $25/month.
3. No less the 1000gig caps.
Now let's say technically these goals could be achieved but big companies like att and Comcast simply don't want to build out there networks and they also don't want new competition either so they send lobbyist to Washington DC to stop it.
In the end what people call capitalism doesn't really exist because Washington is run by Big Business.
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join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
·Comcast
| Broadband a mixed bag here.  I was spoiled when I lived in South Florida. I had access to several broadband providers. BellSouth for DSL, Adelphia for Data Over Cable and most Wireless companies were providing enhanced broadband. When I moved to Central Florida in early 2006, I discovered that access to broadband was a mixed bag. I was fortunate to purchase a home in an area where I can subscriber to DSL or Data Over Cable. On the other hand I chose not to purchase a home in an area where I could not subscriber to DSL or Data Over Cable. What made things more complicated was that there are three CATV providers in this area. At the time some CATV Companies did not offer Digital Cable or Broadband in many areas. Many homeowners were using DirectWay Broadband, now Hughes Net. In view of the fact that most Broadband ISP's do not want to deploy Broadband Service in areas where they cannot get instant payback. It is time for government to step up and provide a high speed connectivity to all homes, like they provide roads and highways. | |
| karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
Nashua, NH
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| And we all see how well the market 'self regulates' Banking? Insurance? The entire economy is on the brink of collapse due to 'self regulation'. Let's look at broadband how the other 90% of the world does, and call it a utility. Oh noes! no-one will make a profit! Guess what,
#1: It's not a utilities job to make a profit, it's to provide services.
#2: The government already spends 100's of billions on infrastructure, let the govt build fiber everywhere, and let the free market sell the services.
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|  Smart Buyers!
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Agents say they've seen deals fall through once buyers find they can't get broadband.
Finally. It is good to see that there are some people who are actually making informed buying decisions when it comes to spending a ton of money on something that might not work for them. And the amazing part is that no government action was needed to help these people make the right choice.
When I was house-hunting back in 2006 I told my agent I was absolutely not interested in any house that could not get broadband in one form or another. Fortunately, I was able to verify availability of broadband on my own before we closed.
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| | TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB | Re: Smart Buyers! Yup, when I'm going to buy a house (few years to go yet), I will not accept anything less than 10mbps broadband. | |
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Southampton, PA | No FIOS, no sale! I would not even consider a new house if it does not have access to Verizon FiOS. A thought of going back to Comcast...
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