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Camarillo, CA | Less Popcorn Sold? That is just too funny! How about the 4000% markup on popcorn at theaters being the cause less people buy it.
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Valencia, CA | Re: Less Popcorn Sold? In general, corn prices should be up anyways because of E85, and Ethanol. The movie industry (as well as any other interested / controlling comapany) wants... CONTROL.
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New Fairfield, CT | Re: Less Popcorn Sold? Forget about p2p I have boycotted from seeing movies in theaters for the last 15 years because of the high cost, I guess I have hurt them the most.lol | |
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? Its not about fair, its about how much of your income that they believe they deserve. However, I don't think NBC has to worry too much about any of their crappy programs being distributed via p2p. Who would waste the time?
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That article mentioned that corn, used to feed the cows (hence "grain fed" beef), is purchased by those farms at 20% below COST. 20% below what it COSTS the farmers to grow it. Approximately.
Dunno if this still holds true today, but apparently the rest is made up through govt. subsidies (taxpayer dollars).
Which turns into corn syrup. Sugar, also, has often been "dumped".
My impression of lots of the processed foods today is that they are predominantly value added, whereas the raw materials are relatively inexpensive, but the labor that is added to those raw materials drives the economy.
Think about it -- if we were to eliminate the obesity epidemic in the US (when pigs fly...) there would be massive job losses. Fast food joints would close down. Breakfast cereal manufactures, ice cream manufacturers, soda pop franchise setups would all do significantly less business. Our GDP would suffer. Our standard of living would go down. Our economy might very well collapse!
Obesity DRIVES this economy. Obesity creates jobs. It benefits the health care industry with increased revenues. It benefits the pharmaceutical industries with increased sales of all kinds of pills. Long live obesity! Ha!
The internet is without a doubt a significant untapped revenue stream for these content people. Whoever these people are, they just have it all wrong - which is not surprising for lots of reasons. These execs have probably grown up in an era of accentuated black-and-white thinking, what - with Vietnam, Nixon, Woodstock... they don't feel comfortable with greys. Unless it's wool, and they're wearing it...
There is a significant untapped potential in the internet -- billions and billions of dollars of revenues just sitting there... waiting... for someone to stretch out their hand and take them.
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Evanston, IL | Re: Less Popcorn Sold? But health clubs and manufacturers of sporting goods would do better.
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? said by cdigioia :To be fair, the corn lobby in the US is increadibly powerful. Your correct there. After that you down hill.  While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous.
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? said by cdigioia :said by TCO1962 :Your correct there. After that you down hill. While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous. I may be incorrect, I only remember this from a few journal articles, and one economics professor. Would you elaborate on the rest of the story that's relevant? He won't because you're right, he's just being an @ss...
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? said by kamm :said by cdigioia :said by TCO1962 :Your correct there. After that you down hill. While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous. I may be incorrect, I only remember this from a few journal articles, and one economics professor. Would you elaborate on the rest of the story that's relevant? He won't because you're right, he's just being an @ss... You're incorrect on both counts. Sorry I don't have the time to educate you at the moment.
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| The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however. | |
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? "The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however."
Coca-Cola made with actual sugar is sooooo much better than that made high-fructose corn syrup (imho). But it is damn hard to find. | |
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? said by tlniec :"The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however."Coca-Cola made with actual sugar is sooooo much better than that made high-fructose corn syrup (imho). But it is damn hard to find. Coca-Cola still produces the Sucrose syrup in quantity for international distribution, as the sugar isn't tariffed elsewhere to protect corn. (Although I really love corn, just not as a sweetener).
Basically every market other than North America utilizes sucrose-based syrup, rather than HFCS. | |
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| Re: Less Popcorn Sold? said by 43193594 :said by tlniec :"The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however."Coca-Cola made with actual sugar is sooooo much better than that made high-fructose corn syrup (imho). But it is damn hard to find. Coca-Cola still produces the Sucrose syrup in quantity for international distribution, as the sugar isn't tariffed elsewhere to protect corn. (Although I really love corn, just not as a sweetener). Basically every market other than North America utilizes sucrose-based syrup, rather than HFCS. Exactly. Mopre often than not I have a feeling the US Gov deliberately posion its population to make sure they will pay the completely out-of-touch price for healthcare.
HFCS IS BAD FOR YOU.
BAD, BAD, VERY BAD - yet it is FORCFULLY PUSHED DOWN ON EVERYBODY'S THROAT by the US Gov.
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| I'd agree...but then I'm waiting for Coca-Cola to take out the carcinogens in their canned sodas and syrups.
»news.independent.co.uk/health/ar···6652.ece
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| said by Phil :That is just too funny! How about the 4000% markup on popcorn at theaters being the cause less people buy it. Nope. Anytime people start buying less of anything, it's because of piracy.  | |
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ohhh, and dont forget the truck driver that transports that corn, the contractor that paves the road that the truck drives on, the oil company that provides oil for the truck, the mining company that mines the make up of the asphalt.
they hurt too
give me a fucking break! 
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| Re: For a few extra bucks a month... said by brawney :I can see it now... your ISP will be offering a "filter free" connection to the internet for just $4.95 extra per month. Another revenue stream for the ISP. Oh crap. Shhhs! Don't give them evil ideas!
Wait. Maybe you should patent that. "A system by which users can choose unfettered internet access"
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| Re: For a few extra bucks a month... said by KrK :said by brawney :I can see it now... your ISP will be offering a "filter free" connection to the internet for just $4.95 extra per month. Another revenue stream for the ISP. Oh crap. Shhhs! Don't give them evil ideas! Wait. Maybe you should patent that. "A system by which users can choose unfettered internet access" Man I was thinking the same thing ......then I read your post....scary huh?? 
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Tulsa, OK | Love to watch AT&T toss away safe harbor.... ... and then become complicit or liable for "negligence" anytime something "bad" isn't filtered.
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| Re: Love to watch AT&T toss away safe harbor.... Actually they are moving to put in a program to identify "bad" content and filter it, so they are embracing the role of network monitor that comes with dropping network neutrality.
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| Re: Love to watch AT&T toss away safe harbor.... said by axus :Actually they are moving to put in a program to identify "bad" content and filter it, so they are embracing the role of network monitor that comes with dropping network neutrality. However, you only need to look at China for examples of how clients work around totalitarian systems, and spammers for how servers get around safeguards. Combine this with Americans love for litigation, and ATT is in for some rough times. Exactly. You can already see the court case where someone is suing because "AT&T let little Jimmy see Porn" and some teary eyed mother is on the stand saying "I thought Little Jimmy was safe on the internet because AT&T is our internet provider and they said they blocked all that nasty-bad porn so I trusted them and now Jimmy is a murdering serial rapist and it's all AT&T's fault!!" etc
I mean, seriously over-dramatized but you get the idea.
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My car isn't flexfuel, so I'd rot the fuel lines if I used it.
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| Hold up just a second Um, won't the average movie downloader still eat popcorn while watching it on his computer/tv?
NBC seems to presume that all popcorn sold is sold at the theatre.They also seem to presume popcorn is the only product corn is used in. | |
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| Popcorn? How about my family of four sneaking our candy and drinks in every time we go to the movies because your prices are laughable. With corn prices skyrocketing because of alternative fuels i doubt farmers are hurting. How about 15-20 min of commercials before the movie i paid for. I didn't pay to see your damn commercials. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU greedy bastards. | |
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|  Re: Less Popcorn sold
I can see it now: Telephone Operator (Lily Tomlinson) will listen in on every call and interrupt: Oh, gracious me (snort)... you can't say that on the phone, I'm sure I read that in a book.... What? oh really? Well the gub-mint says I can cut your service off.
And then, how about closing all those libraries that blatently encourage the sharing of copyrighted material? Are publishers outraged? And movie distributors? I can borrow a DVD movie from my library... no fee. Quick! Notify the thought police!
What's this country coming to? Sheesh...
This reminds me of little more than the government putting on a deception, er magic show. We'll distract the people with nonsense in this hand, while we really screw them blind with policies created by this other hand.
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| Darn Fools! It actualy HELPS the corn farmers (in my case!) So, I'm not sitting in a theater, where I'd be nibbling on a dozen or so kernels, every few minutes....
I'm sitting at home, where I have a "big ol' sip" of 100 times that many at roughly the same interval....
Since I'm buying more of what the largest company in Clermont, Kentucky, produces, their CEO, Booker Noe, buys even more corn to make "juice" out of.
Because of that, the corn farmer across the Mississippi sells more corn, at a demand-driven higher price, and he doesn't have to sit at home watching sucky NBC every night of the week....
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| Re: Darn Fools! It actualy HELPS the corn farmers (in my case!) "Movie theatres would sell more tickets and popcorn."
When I buy the movie tickets, I have no money left over to buy Popcorn. Looks like NBC should be whining to the movie theater people for their high prices if they are concern for the farmers. | |
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Kenner, LA | No eatting or drinking I don't even drink or eat when watching a movie. What makes them think I will start now ? | |
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| All are right Wow all I can say is ROFL.
I only go to the movies a when im not paying or be im going with someone.
Major reason i cant pause the F'ing movie and having to deal with dumb F(_)(|'s is really annoying.
I will rent the movie but yeah pop corn is not nearly as good as dew and pizza | |
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| Re: NBC and Popcorn They need to blame all of the various diet plans for people not eating popcorn.
Besides, I always eat popcorn when watching my pirated movies.
Hell, pirating full length movies is a waste of time. It's easier to run down the street (less than a mile) to Blockbuster. They frequently send me $1.99 coupons, and if I have the time to watch more than a couple movies in a given month, I can pay $25 for a movie pass.
Maybe people are going to the theatres less because a sucky rented movie can be fast forwarded through and costs less for both the movie and the snacks. Plus, considering the last few times I went to a theatre, my home sound system is far better and my TV has a clearer picture than the last few theatres I went to. Come to think of it, the last movie I saw in a theatre where the sound system impressed me was T2, and the system I have at home now would even beat that.
The only content of that nature I bother to download is TV shows that I've missed or weren't shown here and that aren't available for me to go rent (or buy at a reasonable price). | |
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| LAW Breakers! Let's see.
Technically, a school showing a film to a class is illegal. After all, that counts as a public showing. The license agreement you "buy" when you obtain a movie is for private viewership.
A Student who copies pages out of a book is also a lawbreaker. After all, he is disseminating a work and make unauthorized duplications.
A person who makes a slideshow or PowerPoint and collects music or pictures is also breaking the law. After all, most images are not in public domain unless they are pre 1915 or 1920 I think. Therefore, the image that were used are most likely someone's own. Songs, well we all know thats illegal.
The list goes on and on. Therefore, instead of buying popcorn, seeing a movie, using your computer... throw them all away. After all, You can then put Dell, Gateway, and all those people out of a job. Once again, if you can't use your computer for your personal needs, or school work, what good is it anyway. I can make the same argument that if you want to stifle a student from doing research or learning, you are hurting the future workforce and preventing future generations from having the know how in their field. Hence, you hurt the economy and all people who are or will enter the workforce as a result. It's simply a joke. I can make far off comparisons just like NBC too... | |
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