 b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | I don't get it What good is it if you have to go all the way back to the beginning?
Will you be able to fast forward through commercials when playing back the go-back?
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goober22
Resident Duh-Huh Member
join:2001-12-28
Panama City, FL
| They have already said you won't be able to FF thru commercials. What a poor attempt to appease hollywood.
Let's see. wait over a year to use a service that makes you watch from the beginning INCLUDING commercials - or get a DVR today?! Hmmmmmmm, tough choice!
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Blasterbator
Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Jackson, MS
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| Re: I don't get it You don't have to schedule the recording like you do on a DVR and the networks required that they not skip commercials so they wouldn't lose advertisers in droves.
It doesn't replace a DVR, just makes it easy to see a program in its entirety that you didn't schedule your DVR to record. | |
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| fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| said by b10010011  :What good is it if you have to go all the way back to the beginning? Get a DVR then...
Will you be able to fast forward through commercials when playing back the go-back? ... did you read the story at all?
I doubt it...
I doubt you read it either...
If you were handed a $50 bill, would you bitch that it wasn't a $100? This service is not "DVR" service.. other than Comcast doing it soon, this is nothing new. It's been talked about on BBR for months and months... the service is designed simply for people that walked into the show late,missed the beginning and watch to grab it and "start over" from the beginning and see what they missed.. with out having to have a DVR.
Sometimes it just gets WAY too thick on this site... | |
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dadkins
Land of Confusion
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: I don't get it The way I understand it is, if you turn on a channel and you missed the first minutes/half, you can tell the head end to start it over so you can watch the program from the begining.
How many times have we all missed the first part of a show and had to wait and watch the rerun/encore airing to see what happened at the begining that we missed?
Too many to count here. 
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Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
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January 16th, @12:42AM
| said by fiberguy :Get a DVR then... I have had Tivo since 1999 and recently upgraded to a Tivo-HD.
Tivo certainly makes Comcast's pitiful attempt at a DVR look well... pitiful.
I mean their DVR not this even more pitiful "Start Over".
said by fiberguy :did you read the story at all? Only what was written here..
said by fiberguy :If you were handed a $50 bill, would you bitch that it wasn't a $100? Yes, if it was as bogus as "Start Over". 
I once won a video card from nVidia. I complained on their forums that it seemed kind of lame that I only won a single video card when it was a give away to promote their SLI technology. SLI requires two identical video cards to work. The video cards they were giving away were old revisions that could not be found new anymore. So were useless for SLI unless you happened to have the exact one already. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: I don't get it Sounds like you just love to bitch - you can't be helped. You seem to only see negative in life. sad... | |
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Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
| Re: I don't get it said by fiberguy :Sounds like you just love to bitch Yeah...
But not as much as I love to mock Comcast.
How much freakin' money are they dumping into this idea?
To me it would be money better spent on adding more system bandwidth or what ever it takes to add more HD channels, and higher HSI speeds. | |
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All Sheep
@comcast.net
| Re: I don't get it I think it is hilarious how much people jump on the I Hate Comcast bandwagon. There is ZERO customer service in the world, zero. Because of this, it comes down to is the horrible customer service worth the product?, because you know the customer service will suck. I am pretty young, but I remember when we first got cable and it had less than 10 channels. Now for $150 a month, I have about 300 channels, I can download a whole CD in less than 5 minutes while I DVR an HD show and talk on my internet phone long distance all at the same time. Seriously, Comcast has done some HORRIBLE things at my house as well, but that doesn't preclude the fact that my internet is blazing fast, my phone is dirt cheap and if I can't find something on TV or my DVR I want to watch I can spend 45 minutes looking through On Demand. People asking the government to step in and make gas cheaper or force cable to carry NFL.. IT is a luxury to own cable not a right. You are a sheep.. "You hate Comcast, yeah me too!" | |
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Blasterbator
Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Jackson, MS | It's not meant to replace a DVR for those that are looking for DVR functionality. | |
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| I think this looks like a great idea. Even though you still may have to watch the commercials, it looks very interesting. I always find it annoying to sit down at the middle of a show and wish I had seen the beginning, and with this, at least you could see the whole episode, without having to remember to DVR it beforehand. | |
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join:2007-09-25
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January 15th, @07:42PM
| Comcast To Unveil 'Start Over' In 2009. In Comcast terms it won't launch into late 2009 and only available in select limits markets in the east coast. And until their 'Start Over' service is available nationwide won't be the year 2011 | |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
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January 15th, @06:05PM
| Re: OK by me; as long as it doesn't replace a regular DVR said by Chris 313 :said by TK Junk Mail :Having that as an added feature(for free?? - I won't pay extra for it) would be nice for a TV without a DVR. But I don't want it if it means getting rid of the regular DVR service. And to answer the OP in this thread, you won't be able to FF thru commercials if it works the same as the TW service did. Indeed. If they charge money for this, they can leave it cause I don't want it, especially if I can't FF through commericials. I don't think it'll replace the regular DVR cause what would happen to Comcast's Tivo plans, eh? It's just a matter of time of fine tuning this head-end dvr and then taking all of the DVR boxes out of the homes.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing less user control content very soon. And then i bet online downloads will skyrocket because of this.
remember: cable co's = Ho$$ywood
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
| Re: OK by me; as long as it doesn't replace a regular DVR If it gets that bad, we will simply have third party devices that sit between the cable boxes and our televisions. Just like VCR's and Tivo's do now. Although, they will probably be outlawed and we may have to buy them from China or smuggle them in from Canada or Mexico.  | |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
Gainesville, FL
| Re: OK by me; as long as it doesn't replace a regular DVR said by jmn1207 :If it gets that bad, we will simply have third party devices that sit between the cable boxes and our televisions. Just like VCR's and Tivo's do now. Although, they will probably be outlawed and we may have to buy them from China or smuggle them in from Canada or Mexico. That's why they invented HDTV and HDCP... to stop brilliant people like you. HDCP will revoke these contraband devices you describe.
All fine and dandy if you want to stick with SDTV... then again with the switch to digital and the broadcast flag that's probably moot too.
Thanks hollywood.
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
| Re: OK by me; as long as it doesn't replace a regular DVR said by joako :said by jmn1207 :If it gets that bad, we will simply have third party devices that sit between the cable boxes and our televisions. Just like VCR's and Tivo's do now. Although, they will probably be outlawed and we may have to buy them from China or smuggle them in from Canada or Mexico. That's why they invented HDTV and HDCP... to stop brilliant people like you. HDCP will revoke these contraband devices you describe. All fine and dandy if you want to stick with SDTV... then again with the switch to digital and the broadcast flag that's probably moot too. Thanks hollywood. Well, a quick search and you will find a few methods that can already bypass HDCP. Right now these are legitimate items that we can all buy; however, like I mentioned before, products such as these may become illegal to own/purchase. At least for US citizens.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by hopeflicker :said by Chris 313 :said by TK Junk Mail :Having that as an added feature(for free?? - I won't pay extra for it) would be nice for a TV without a DVR. But I don't want it if it means getting rid of the regular DVR service. And to answer the OP in this thread, you won't be able to FF thru commercials if it works the same as the TW service did. Indeed. If they charge money for this, they can leave it cause I don't want it, especially if I can't FF through commericials. I don't think it'll replace the regular DVR cause what would happen to Comcast's Tivo plans, eh? It's just a matter of time of fine tuning this head-end dvr and then taking all of the DVR boxes out of the homes. Thank god for BT/NNTP. providers just dont get it. WE DONT LIKE ADVERTISING. product placement is the way to go.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
| said by TK Junk Mail :And to answer the OP in this thread, you won't be able to FF thru commercials if it works the same as the TW service did. Screw that! free or not.
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
Gainesville, FL
| That will be revoked eventually. They are just waiting for this stuff to become the standard. It won't become illegal but one day *poof* they will just stop working.
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dniwer
@sbcglobal.net | Blue-something? What was the name of that company that came up with a recording device (I hesitate to call it a DVR) that just out-and-out eliminated the commercials? Blue-something?
All this seems to be is a rerun of that same show. | |
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join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC
| Re: Blue-something? I remember them as ReplayTV. Apparently they were acquired by SonicBlue around the same time they got sued out of existence. Had to look it up: »arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···570.html | |
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| Re: Blue-something? Thanks very much for coming up with the SonicBlue name. I just couldn't think of it, and it was going to drive me insane until I did. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD |  More BS?
Wow!
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join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
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January 15th, @06:41PM
| Re: More BS? im confused, you guys are comparing this service to a dvr. if i come home and turn my dvr on at 10 and start watching a movie the dvr does not allow me to start at the beginning unless i dvred the movie. i think its a cool idea. i can think of many of times i would have liked to do just that. | |
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CRP08
Comcast of Ocean County- Need more HD
join:2005-12-26
Brick, NJ
·Comcast
| Re: More BS? said by rody_44 : im confused, you guys are comparing this service to a dvr. if i come home and turn my dvr on at 10 and start watching a movie the dvr does not allow me to start at the beginning unless i dvred the movie. i think its a cool idea. i can think of many of times i would have liked to do just that. Me too. I'm looking forward to this being deployed next year. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
| Re: More BS? said by fiberguy :Just because every system doesn't have it doesn't mean it doesn't exist... Sure it does.
I keep getting ads for these mythical services in my bill, but alas, they don't seem to be available.
The only thing that keeps me from switching to satellite is about $500 in startup costs. The only thing that keeps me from dropping Comcast altogether is the fact that I value my wife not killing me. 
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| Not bad for a free service Had the service for about a couple of months now. Used it a few times, not bad if you started watching late in the show and decide you want to start from the beginning. Sometimes when I hit the restart the show don't start from the beginning, so there some kinks. It's a free service so can't complain. | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Left the harbor.. Don't most people already go to the internet to get content which they can rewind, fast forward, play and transfer to disc, dvr or portable media player?
This boat left the harbor years ago... now just get out of the way and broaden your internet pipes. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
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| Re: Left the harbor.. too much work for me. ide rather just turn the tv on and be done with it. before i did all that i would dvr it. | |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| "Don't most people already go to the internet to get content which they can rewind, fast forward, play and transfer to disc, dvr or portable media player?"
No actually MOST people would have no clue how to do that.
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
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| Re: Left the harbor.. said by hobgoblin :"Don't most people already go to the internet to get content which they can rewind, fast forward, play and transfer to disc, dvr or portable media player?" No actually MOST people would have no clue how to do that. Hob Nor do a lot of us want to - I have no compulsion to watch tv shows or movies on my pc. | |
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join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC | I thought network-DVR was still in appeals Yes, they lost the initial court ruling, but I thought they were taking it to appeals. And I haven't found anything that says they've actually given up on that process. In which case start-over TV may just be them spreading their bets. | |
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: I thought network-DVR was still in appeals i love how hollywood likes to shoot down good ideas. the networked DVR for example means if you get cableco DVR you dont have to loose your shows if you swap the box.
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs:
| start over and thats just what they should do because this concept is so far from anything usable. It could be one nice aspect of a bigger technology but i dont see the need to sped ANY money on this feature alone.
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@adelphia.net | nothing new i've had this with twc for about the past year.... in addition to a dvr its nice sometimes, cannot ff though. | |
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joako
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join:2000-09-07
Gainesville, FL | Record Will you be able to "start over" and then record the program? | |
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Premium
join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL | Re: Record Sure with Tivo | |
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awesome
@comcast.net | this is awesome I have seen this in action with Time Warner and it is awesome. How many times do you actually sit down at precisely the exact start time? You may have missed the first 10-20 minutes of show and you can just start it over. | |
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MyDogHsFleas
Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Southwest
| There is a market for this There is a market of people who don't want a DVR, because:
(a) they don't understand it at all, i.e. they don't perceive the value
(b) they sort of understand it but are afraid of it, i.e. they think it's too complicated for them or they fear that people will think they are stupid for not knowing how to operate it
(c) they understand it but won't buy it because its value to them is not worth the cost
It is this market that Start Over is addressing.
The (a) people simply see a button that says Start Over. The value is immediately perceptible. "It starts the program I'm watching over again from the beginning. If I'm late tuning in, or if I'm interrupted, I can start over from the beginning and watch the whole show."
The (b) people see it as simple enough that they can do it. It's just one button, after all.
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Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
·Comcast
| Re: There is a market for this like i said i dont know why you people are comparing it to the dvr service. i have a dvr but would like this service because if i sit down and want to start over i can. i cant do that with a dvr unless i dvred the movie. it has nothing to do with the dvr service. as far as downloading it. i could do it but since i just sit down and browse for what i want i have no interest in the extra time it would take. | |
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Comcast To Unveil 'Start Over' In 2009
OK by me; as long as it doesn't replace a regular DVR
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