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(old news - 09:10AM Tuesday Jan 09 2007)
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A company insider informs us that Comcast is expected to announce plans for deployment of PowerBoost upstream speed enhancement sometime in the first half of 2007 for all 6Mbps/384kbps and 8Mbps/768kbps residential subscribers. Users will see upstream bursts up to 1Mbps and 2Mbps, respectively, for the 384kbps and 768kbps upstream speeds. While scheduled launch is expected to begin in February, as with downstream Powerboost deployment, specific dates will vary by market.

Users have generally been very pleased with Comcast's Powerboost technology, which is now available to both Comcast and Cox customers. The homebrewed Comcast solution gives customers double (or greater) their downstream bandwidth for the first few minutes of a large download. Some customers have seen speeds as high as 64000kbps. Their biggest problem has been that the Powerboost service doesn't impact upstream speeds, though now they're getting their wish.

Powerboost is a way to give customers a little extra bandwidth until DOCSIS 3.0 deployments can be solidified.

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ptrowski
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Finally....

at least Comcast (in theory) is listening to what we really want, more upstream!

MxxCon

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Brooklyn, NY
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Re: Finally....

prolly just an excuse for them to advertise their "fake" faster upload speed.
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L Supreme
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Lowell, MA

Re: Finally....

damned if they do damned if they don't. Comcast can get a break huh. IMO this is better than nothing, especially at no additional cost.

MxxCon

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Brooklyn, NY
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Re: Finally....

said by L Supreme See Profile :

damned if they do damned if they don't. Comcast can get a break huh. IMO this is better than nothing, especially at no additional cost.
not true.
i'm all for upgrading user's speed. however i expect to see comcast pimp this "hack" as if they conquered Jerusalem
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fiberguy
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Re: Finally....

The sky is always falling for the likes of your kind, huh?

If they cut your bill in half you'd still bitch.

MxxCon

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Re: Finally....

said by fiberguy See Profile :

The sky is always falling for the likes of your kind, huh?
my kind? is that supposed to be some kind of racist remark?

If they cut your bill in half you'd still bitch.
i wouldn't complain about them cutting my bill in half. but that doesn't mean cutting my bill in half makes a company perfect.
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fiberguy
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Re: Finally....

Racist remark... dude.. get real! What color are you... green? Try an anti-depressant.

As for your second remark... stick to the subject. Stop spinning.
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

The sky is always falling for the likes of your kind, huh?

If they cut your bill in half you'd still bitch.
If comcast cut his bill in half, they'd undoubtedly cut his throughput MORE than half.
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c0de

join:2004-10-14
Richmond, VA
I have Comcast biss line and the fastest you can get up is 1Mbit, which is ghay to say the least. I wonder how this will effect the business lines and if i would be able to upgrade to a fatter pipe for my upload.
mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA

Right. They want something to make their service appear the same as FIOS.

FIOS in this area is spreading fast... and Comcast just took over Adelphia here.

I'll be ordering FIOS this week.

fact

@comcast.net

Re: Finally....

you may wanna thing before you switch to fios even though there advertized speed is faster thier ping rate is much slower

kyramilan

join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
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Speed Test from FL to NY
I have no problems with Cox. Pensacola to New York as well.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
I'll believe it when I see it.
nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

where is this going?

Powerboost is good and all that, but it would sure be nice if they made these speeds full time instead of limited.

I was always hoping it was a clever PR way to test their system for these speeds, while touting it as a "customer enhancement"

But I do agree, for upstream speeds, IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
LeftOfSanity

join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE

Re: where is this going?

It probably is a way for them to test, as well as give customers someting until they can do DOCSIS 3.0.

Blasterbator
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join:2001-02-20
Jackson, MS
·Cox HSI

said by nasadude See Profile :

Powerboost is good and all that, but it would sure be nice if they made these speeds full time instead of limited.
Of course it would be nice, but if they did, then people would expect those speeds 24x7.

"Powerboost" allows Comcast to set and deliver on reasonable expectations for cable modem performance.

They have been criticized for selling X Mbps service and not delivering that performance consistently. It's nice to see them make an attempt to better satisfy their customers.

Not to mention, this gives them a better story on managing p2p and other unattended traffic than shutting it down all together or leaving the tubes clogged and continuing to penalize the average user.

TK Junk Mail
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said by nasadude See Profile :

Powerboost is good and all that, but it would sure be nice if they made these speeds full time instead of limited.

I was always hoping it was a clever PR way to test their system for these speeds, while touting it as a "customer enhancement"

But I do agree, for upstream speeds, IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
Full time high upload speeds mostly will just help P2P users. And most of those would be hogging bandwidth non-stop for copyrighted material. Powerboost upstream will aid people uploading pics for the relatives, but won't help the P2P apps.
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dadkins
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Hercules, CA
·Comcast

Re: where is this going?

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

Powerboost is good and all that, but it would sure be nice if they made these speeds full time instead of limited.

I was always hoping it was a clever PR way to test their system for these speeds, while touting it as a "customer enhancement"

But I do agree, for upstream speeds, IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
Full time high upload speeds mostly will just help P2P users. And most of those would be hogging bandwidth non-stop for copyrighted material. Powerboost upstream will aid people uploading pics for the relatives, but won't help the P2P apps.
ANYTHING that will make my offsite backups go faster is welcomed!

You try uploading several(13) GB with a whopping 768k line.
Now, do this twice(or more times) a month.

P2P is not the only use for sustained upload speeds, sorry!
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nasadude

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Rockville, MD
·Comcast

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

Full time high upload speeds mostly will just help P2P users. And most of those would be hogging bandwidth non-stop for copyrighted material. ..
Ah yes, the evil P2P, scourge of the internet and refuge of scoundrels everywhere. We mustn't do anything that would help those dirty f**g hippy P2P users

hayabusa3303
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Dadkins..

He will be happy

Had to say it.

dadkins
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Re: Dadkins..

said by hayabusa3303 See Profile :

He will be happy

Had to say it.
DAMN SKIPPY!

Seeing as my "PowerBoost" chugs along at 3MB/sec and doesn't fizzle out after 40-50MB, I can't wait to see this Upload PB!
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Goober

join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL

Re: Dadkins..

Damn straight! If the upload PB is as good (and as full time and constant) as the download PB, I don't really care about an official upstream speed increase.

Boogeyman
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Huntsville, AL
·Comcast

Re: Dadkins..

Too true. I always throttle my upload in BT to leave 15% of my up free for surfing, so this wont affect my p2p usage any, but when I have to email a large file or whatever, this will be greatly appreciated.

I do wonder how it will affect me though. Last month when I paid my bill I asked them if there was a higher teer yet and she told me I was on on the highest they have in the area, which is 6/768. So since I dont have the 8/768 I wonder how pb will affect me. Unless they upgrade it all at the same time (switch this area to 8/768 w/pb up and down).
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xyrx

join:2001-08-07
Sacramento, CA

Downstream boost

I've seen some of their downstream boost speeds after 10pm at night. I've clocked them on a couple of speedtest websites (those capable of handing higher bandwidth speeds) at between 12Mbit and 15Mbit. My bittorrent speeds have benefited to a degree with this, but with a boost in upload speeds... watch the bittorrent fly.

chia

join:2003-12-20
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Wish mine...

Wish mine lasted minutes. PB only kicks in for 10-15 seconds for me here, but I'll take what I can get . Looking forward to PB to kick in on upload as I'll get more use out of that.

Sure hope this isn't all there is until docsis 3.0 comes out.

Rob
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Kendall, FL
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Screw Powerboost.. Where are the upgrades?

I don't want powerboost. I want the 16/1 or 16/2 tier plan that other Comcast customers are getting in other parts of the country.

Stop slacking off.
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slayerusa

join:2003-09-01
West Warren, MA

Re: Screw Powerboost.. Where are the upgrades?

i agree.

do not offer a virtual fix to what the powerusers want.
give the real deal.
fiberguy
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Re: Screw Powerboost.. Where are the upgrades?

You just hit the head on the nail. If you are a "power user" then are you willing to pay the "power price"...?

For the record.. nothing they are charging at the moment is a "power user" price. But, I'm sure if you're willing to shell out something in the neighborhood of $150.00 per month or abouts.. THEN you are in the power user neck of the woods.
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Re: Screw Powerboost.. Where are the upgrades?

said by fiberguy See Profile :

You just hit the head on the nail. If you are a "power user" then are you willing to pay the "power price"...?

For the record.. nothing they are charging at the moment is a "power user" price. But, I'm sure if you're willing to shell out something in the neighborhood of $150.00 per month or abouts.. THEN you are in the power user neck of the woods.
So what is your point? Because we do not fall under the category of "power user" that we should not be entitled to a speed tier upgrade instead of this lame powerboost?

If they offered a higher tier, I'd get it. But I'm at the highest they offer in my area (8/768).

I don't abuse the service, but don't try to make me feel warm inside by giving me "powerboost" on my upload so when I do a speed test I think "WOW! Look at the deal I'm getting".

Comcast needs to get with the program.
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fiberguy
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Re: Screw Powerboost.. Where are the upgrades?

You can't read.

JoeyDee
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Las Vegas, NV

Great Short Term Solution...

Really. Works for me until DOCSIS 3.0 fix. Good work, Comcast. (Just don't dally on the long term upgrade. )

Titus Pullo
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Another gimmick

as an adjunct to existing trickery that will ultimately fail to live up to its claims. Anyone who doesn't see this as preemptive marketing to fend off churn has blinders on.

People never learn that you don't get something for nothing; i.e., "comcast hasn't raised HSI bills for (insert varying length of time here), it's the TV side that goes up," but you actually expect that comcast will keep right on _____boosting 'stuff' your way beyond their current (ridiculous) margins.

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travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Albuquerque, NM

OK, But Where's Downstream?

I'm still waiting to see the downstream boost...

Cheddarhead
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join:2002-02-19
Hudson, WI
·Comcast

Re: OK, But Where's Downstream?

Hooray for commycast customers. ( Of which I am one) Now my ftp server and bitorrent hobbies can flourish even more betterer...

/thief and a pirate. Ahoy mateys...

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ironweasel
Weezy

join:2000-09-13
Belen, NM

I'm getting it about 30 miles south of you in Belen. Most of the speed tests I've run show me getting usually 1200kb-1300kb / sec. Sustained downloads (300mb+ files) usually average 950kb - 1000kb / sec.


Did this test about 2 minutes ago..if that's not Powerboost kicking in, then I got one hell of an upgrade.
I'm on the 8/768 line, BTW.
travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Albuquerque, NM

edit:
January 11th, @12:05AM

Re: OK, But Where's Downstream?

I'll check again when I get home tonight, but a few weeks ago I was just seeing 6190/368.

edit: still just the 6190...
starguard_1

join:2007-01-12
Albuquerque, NM

No Powerboost in Albuquerque

I just rebooted my modem and checked 2 minutes ago. My download was 4920 and my upload was 685--and I am on the Comcast 8M/768 tier.

I called Comcast to inquire about Powerboost and the level 1 customer service person claimed to have heard nothing about it.

Morac

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast

For a few minutes? um no.

quote:
The homebrewed Comcast solution gives customers double (or greater) their downstream bandwidth for the first few minutes of a large download.
Um no it does not. On a new download, it does double or triple the download speeds for about 15 seconds, but this isn't even closed to lasting a few minutes.

I'll wait to see how long the upload boost lasts and how well it works before I pass judgment on upstream powerboosting.
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dadkins
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Re: For a few minutes? um no.

said by Morac See Profile :

quote:
The homebrewed Comcast solution gives customers double (or greater) their downstream bandwidth for the first few minutes of a large download.
Um no it does not. On a new download, it does double or triple the download speeds for about 15 seconds, but this isn't even closed to lasting a few minutes.

I'll wait to see how long the upload boost lasts and how well it works before I pass judgment on upstream powerboosting.
I drag in 200MB video files from dl.tv in under 50seconds.

*HERE* PowerBoost seems to get stuck and blast away for entire downloads. I am not alone with what has been deemed "PermaBoost" (© Big_D)
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xdeadhead
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Mechanicsburg, PA

a "burst" of UL speed?

burst this you comcast douchebags. make it an across the board official tier and some us would pay more to get more. i suppose that next to nothing is better than the almost nothing we get now. (sigh)
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b10010011
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Bellingham, WA

edit:
January 9th, @07:13PM

Downstream Powerboost does not even work yet.

At least not around here...
zerog

join:2002-02-10
Dallas, TX
·Verizon FIOS

And I used to bash Comcast...

I was a Comcast basher - they did suck sometimes, but as with everything else, it's all relative.

It's relative, because ever since Time Warner JokeRunner took over the Dallas area, I've been witness to a truely BOINKED up cable co.

I would gladly have Comcast back in a second. At least with them I was getting my 6mbps on a regular basis, bursting to 10~ish. Since TWC has taken over, I'm lucky if I can keep a 4mbps stream running.

I think the burst idea is actually good for the average residential Joe, however the issue is that for those with VOIP really cant use this feature (due to quality of service settings on routers)
JerryTongue

join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
·Comcast

Cheap angle

It's just the cheapest angle against Verizon. It isn't because they hear us and want to give us more. Lets just wait to see who gets the upload powerboost. Oh and in my opinion this whole powerboost thing is great to download files or upload photos to friends and families. Period.
kd6cae
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join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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forget powerboost, make speeds constant!

Why won't Comcast just byte the bullet and give users truly more upstream/downstream, on a consistent basis? It's not like the technology isn't capable of more? There are users, granted on 1 cable provider in the whole country, who with the same modems we all have are getting 15mbps/2mbps or even 30mbps/5mbps, and that's consistent, not this "let's burst for a few seconds to make the user think they have more than they actually do, then throttle them back to crappy 384kbps speeds for the majority of their upload?" What kind of logic is there in that? If FIOS area cable providers can give users consistent speeds in both directions, than the technology is there, so other cable operators should give users what they want, a true, consistent upload/download experience. I have the best I can get in my area, 10mbps/1mbps, and I get that speed any time of the day. Oh the downstream at peak times may slow to 8mbps, but that's fine, I feel I have a decent amount of good downstream. My upstream of 1mbps I can do 24/7 with 0 fluctuations. I'd love to experience 2mbps upload, even if I did have to pay a little more for the option. In short I don't see a point to burst upstream, give us a real power boost, I'd call this burstboost.
Birolo

join:2005-04-24
Woodstock, GA

Re: forget powerboost, make speeds constant!

For me powerboost is just a joke.
easyrider

join:2005-12-15
Hanover, PA

First they should...

consider upgrading the areas that are already saturated with new customers who don't even have enough bandwidth to do typical internet stuff like playing a game or browsing during peak hours of the day. Sounds like my service is about to get worse.

fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN

hopefully...

this reflects what the new speeds will be when we get an actual upgrade
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Martyhead
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Chesterfield, VA

Re: hopefully...

wont touch fios speeds!

Insider101

join:2006-09-19
Brooklyn, NY

Re: hopefully...

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alfnoid
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join:2002-02-18
·Comcast

I'll take the REAL upgrade please...

I would also like to see a REAL upgrade because any QOS I do in my network makes any bursting useless. Unless of course I turn off my QOS so I can use it.

I don't see any "permaboost"ing so I rarely do turn off my QOS.
I see about 30MB go by at anywhere from 20 to 33Mbps then right back to my 8Mb.
So while it is neat for smaller downloads and youtube when they decide they want to give the files to me that fast, it just isn't that great. I mean come on, who spends that much time on youtube? j/k

I spose I wouldn't have to worry if I didn't have voip, but I do so thems the breaks.

peace
phuz

join:2003-12-28
Reading, PA

Re: I'll take the REAL upgrade please...

i would like to see the REAL, long-term upgrade too, but this is find for an intermediate solution. The downstream powerboost works well for me. Even before the implementation of powerboost, I was pulling 8-9mbit downstream on a supposed 6mbit account. With powerboost, I have never seen less than 18mbit on a speedtest. My upstream is pathetically lethargic at 384kbit

has comcast announced any plans for a long-term upgrade?
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