  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Bandwidth Meter And yet the bandwidth meter that was promised so many months ago is no where to be seen. At the same time, customers are still receiving phone calls that they are going over their 250GB cap: »Got the call, 850G this month
Sorry, but if you're going to expect customers to adhere to the terms of service, then you must provide a way for them to do so. Telling them to download or purchase bandwidth monitoring tools is not sufficient. Customers need one that is directly connected to Comcast, so everyone is on the same page. -- CheckSite.us | YourIP.us | Reverseip.us | |
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join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO | Re: Bandwidth Meter Apparently a DNS health meter plus a static list of server IPs plus a prettified version of NSLookup is easier to create than an accurate bandwidth meter... | |
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| I quit using Comcast DNS Servers when they started the Advertisement Re directions...its worse than Closed DNS(OpenDNS)
I now use the National DNS Servers provided my Level 3 Networks
4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2
they are speedy, and no added junk..I likes -- My Blog | |
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join:2008-08-07 Philadelphia, PA
| Re: Bandwidth Meter said by Woody79_00 :I quit using Comcast DNS Servers when they started the Advertisement Re directions...its worse than Closed DNS(OpenDNS) I now use the National DNS Servers provided my Level 3 Networks 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 they are speedy, and no added junk..I likes You could just as easily use the DNS servers here with no redirection:
»dns.comcast.net/dns-ip-addresses2.php
And get faster responses from a closer DNS server to you on the Comcast network. | |
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| Re: Bandwidth Meter said by ctg1701a :You could just as easily use the DNS servers here with no redirection: » dns.comcast.net/dns-ip-addresses2.phpAnd get faster responses from a closer DNS server to you on the Comcast network. Define "faster" please.
ping 4.2.2.1 -n 10
Ping statistics for 4.2.2.1: Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 18ms
ping 4.2.2.2 -n 10
Ping statistics for 4.2.2.2: Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 19ms
ping 68.87.72.130 -n 10
Ping statistics for 68.87.72.130: Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 27ms
ping 68.87.77.130 -n 10
Ping statistics for 68.87.77.130: Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 61ms, Maximum = 67ms, Average = 62ms
The below queries were ran once to "cache" the lookup on the DNS server, then repeated 10x in succession to compute the average query response time: dig www.dslreports.com. @4.2.2.1 = 29 ms dig www.dslreports.com. @4.2.2.2 = 30 ms dig www.dslreports.com. @68.87.72.130 = 39 ms dig www.dslreports.com. @68.87.77.130 = 70 ms
From any definition of "faster" that I can think of relating to DNS, 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were marginally to twice as fast as the "closer" Comcast provided server. | |
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| I don't get it! If we are talking about milliseconds, there aren't many differences. If we are talking about the presence of advertisements when u foul up a URL; who cares. I simply click the link to what I meant. If that is giving comcast more money, then I would like to see a discount for using the dns helpers. If not; who cares? I guess a blank page is better than saying you fouled up the URL dummy! Oh yeah; bandwidth meter would be fine if I could track u/d with router; otherwise it is a moot point. | |
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join:2007-12-29 Creston, WV | Same with Hughesnet. they cap you but they do not give you official meter expect 1 hour delay usage page. | |
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| Many bandwidth hogs according to comcast use more than about 488GB a month. They are about 1% of the users and possibly less. The bandwidth monitor on mcafee might not even show a large portion of your use. You can download 1GB and it might show 400 or 700MB etc. Some articles shows that ISP don't have accurate measuring tools either. I don't know if there is even something that can accurately measure bandwidth. | |
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| Re: Bandwidth Meter said by Space :
Many bandwidth hogs according to comcast use more than about 488GB a month. They are about 1% of the users and possibly less. The amount and one percent is slowly shrinking. I wonder how many one percenters Comcast has ditched? Eventually even the people just surfing social sites and video sites the web offers will be one percenters. You just wait.  -- To talk much and arrive nowhere is the same as climbing a tree to catch a fish. | |
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join:2007-04-23 Tuscaloosa, AL
| Big problem But there's a big problem with a site like this, just like other ISP outage sites. If DNS is out, how do you reach the site to check its status?
I'm not joking. There's nothing wrong with a tool to find out about ISP outages, but, for Web-based sites, if the ISP is down, you aren't going to be able to visit the site to see if there's a problem with the ISP or if it's something on your end, such as a modem that's died or that's had its MAC mysteriously fall off your account. A phone-based tool is better, except the damn thing has to be kept up to date, and it should be easy to reach. You certainly shouldn't have to get a CS rep to ask them if there's an outage in your area. | |
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| Re: Big problem said by ISurfTooMuch :But there's a big problem with a site like this, just like other ISP outage sites. If DNS is out, how do you reach the site to check its status? If just the DNS is out you can still get there if you know the address. Most routers are set up to allow for 2 or 3 DNS servers. I use Open DNS then the closest Comcast DNS and if all else fails I can use a Level 3 server. I a floating the idea of putting one local on my network to speed things up even more. -- There are 10 types of people. Those who can read Binary and those who cannot. | |
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  baineschile 2600 Premium join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | Why Why do ISPs care what DNS their clients use? Aside from the recent idea to turn redirection to ad dollars, is there another advantage? | |
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| Re: Why said by iansltx :Some CDN-based services work better when you have local DNS. For example Akamai has a cache here in Denver. Comcast DNS points to this cache, which serves up content while directly connected to Comcast's network, thus saving Comcast money. If you use other DNS services, you'll get a different Akamai endpoint and lower performance. You are spot on regarding performance.
Many websites use Content Delivery Networks to distribute their content more efficiently across Internet Service Providers by pushing the content closer to the end user. Comcast's DNS should send users to the closest content servers to the customer, resulting an a speedier experience. Give it a try yourself with CDN-based content --> try with names like cdn.netflix.com or www.comcast.net for example (compare results from our cache vs. some other server). -- JL Comcast | |
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| Re: Why I am in Philly... So for example I might ask how is performance to cdn.netflix.com?
Comcast DNS in Philadelphia, PA (68.87.64.150) netflix.vo.llnwd.net. 208.111.160.6 208.111.161.254
PING 208.111.160.6 64 bytes from 208.111.160.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=11.169 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.160.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=8.923 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.160.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=8.738 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.160.6: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=11.508 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.160.6: icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=8.057 ms
--- 208.111.160.6 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 8.057/9.679/11.508/1.389 ms
Then, let's check against DNS @ 4.2.2.1 QUESTION SECTION: cdn.netflix.com. IN A ANSWER SECTION: cdn.netflix.com. 1671 IN CNAME netflix.vo.llnwd.net. netflix.vo.llnwd.net. 31 IN A 208.111.148.7 netflix.vo.llnwd.net. 31 IN A 208.111.148.6
PING 208.111.148.7 64 bytes from 208.111.148.7: icmp_seq=0 ttl=44 time=86.473 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.148.7: icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=85.991 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.148.7: icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 time=86.000 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.148.7: icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 time=86.002 ms 64 bytes from 208.111.148.7: icmp_seq=4 ttl=44 time=85.668 ms
--- 208.111.148.7 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 85.668/86.027/86.473/0.257 ms
YMMV but you get the idea. -- JL Comcast | |
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| I run my own DNS server, and it just so happens I get the same IP's (for netflix at least) as the Comcast servers - that is when the servers actually work..
C:\>nslookup
Default Server: UnKnown Address: 192.168.1.5
> cdn.netflix.com Server: UnKnown Address: 192.168.1.5
Non-authoritative answer: Name: netflix.vo.llnwd.net Addresses: 208.111.160.6 208.111.161.254 Aliases: cdn.netflix.com
> server 68.87.64.146
Default Server: [68.87.64.146] Address: 68.87.64.146
> cdn.netflix.com Server: [68.87.64.146] Address: 68.87.64.146
Non-authoritative answer: Name: netflix.vo.llnwd.net Addresses: 208.111.160.6 208.111.161.254 Aliases: cdn.netflix.com
> server 68.87.96.4 Default Server: phildns2.inflow.pa.bo.comcast.net Address: 68.87.96.4
> cdn.netflix.com Server: phildns2.inflow.pa.bo.comcast.net Address: 68.87.96.4
DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. *** Request to phildns2.inflow.pa.bo.comcast.net timed-out --
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join:2008-08-07 Philadelphia, PA 1 edit | Re: Why 68.87.96.3 and 68.87.96.4 were decomissioned over a year ago. Please look at »dns.comcast.net for the most valid list of DNS for Comcast.
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| Re: Why said by ctg1701a :68.87.96.3 and 68.87.96.4 were decomissioned over a year ago. Please look at » dns.comcast.net for the most valid list of DNS for Comcast. Thanks then why are they still showing up when using dhcp? this is why I started running my own DNS, the servers issued by dhcp did not work. --
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join:2008-08-07 Philadelphia, PA
| Re: Why said by beerbum :said by ctg1701a :68.87.96.3 and 68.87.96.4 were decomissioned over a year ago. Please look at » dns.comcast.net for the most valid list of DNS for Comcast. Thanks then why are they still showing up when using dhcp? this is why I started running my own DNS, the servers issued by dhcp did not work. No DHCP server should be handing those addresses out. Can you PM me with the DHCP server you are getting these from and what IP space you are getting so I can look at the subnet settings?
Thanks
Thanks | |
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join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
·Comcast
| That is interesting.
According to what I know about akamai their mapping software makes up for this. They do test dns servers when mapping.
The fastest replies get the route. If it's costing comcast money , then may I suggest you get a better route ? -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" | |
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| Re: Why said by BosstonesOwn :That is interesting. According to what I know about akamai their mapping software makes up for this. They do test dns servers when mapping. The fastest replies get the route. If it's costing comcast money , then may I suggest you get a better route ? If you look at the data I posted, our DNS provides a superior answer. (So not sure what you mean about getting a better route.) -- JL Comcast | |
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join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
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| Re: Why I was answering in regards to the akamai software.
Mapper runs according to pings and other functions.
If your dns server answers slower then another then the route gets shifted to let the user get the content faster.
The same with servers. If the content is in Chicago and mapper detects the user is in Chicago but the route is congested mapper will let the user get pushed to say New York , to get the download and content quicker. Which is why Akamai moving gear into every pop they can get space in is a major win for the providers , but the content can still sometimes be gotten from a faster route even if it's half way across the country.
So again , if the links are congested maybe you need a better route  -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" | |
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·Comcast
| said by baineschile :Why do ISPs care what DNS their clients use? Aside from the recent idea to turn redirection to ad dollars, is there another advantage? Karl explained it well:
OpenDNS generates a whopping $20,000 per day off of their DNS redirection relationship with Yahoo. ISPs obviously want to keep that money in house. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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| said by baineschile :Why do ISPs care what DNS their clients use? Aside from the recent idea to turn redirection to ad dollars, is there another advantage? NOPE! its all about the benjamins! purest form of corporate greed in which NONE of the revenue generated off your back is kicked back to you! -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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| Re: Tool can tell you what DNS servers Comcast has & where Half of the CAPTCHAs at that site are so poorly legible, it will result in most people saying "useless tool". CC gets to crow about how helpful they're being, and their subscribers go back to "yeah, whatever". | |
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| Re: Tool can tell you what DNS servers Comcast has & where said by birdfeedr :Half of the CAPTCHAs at that site are so poorly legible, it will result in most people saying "useless tool". CC gets to crow about how helpful they're being, and their subscribers go back to "yeah, whatever". Those captchas are from Recaptcha. It's a project that's aimed to OCR old documents, newspapers, and books whose text is poor enough quality that they can't easily be machine processed (which makes them good against automated attempts at solving them) but hopefully can be human readable (which makes them better suited then some distortion techniques that REALLY mangle the letters/words. | |
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| said by birdfeedr :Half of the CAPTCHAs at that site are so poorly legible, it will result in most people saying "useless tool". CC gets to crow about how helpful they're being, and their subscribers go back to "yeah, whatever". Good God man, really?
I see your future... "hey you kids!!!! get away from my lawn!!!" ::Shaking walker:: | |
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join:2008-08-07 Philadelphia, PA
| This is a valid point . This empowers users to look at where DNS is relative to them on the network and find out which ones are closest to you. As a power user you can decide to use the DHCP assigned ones or maybe ones that are a little closer on the network if that is the case.
Hopefully this gives users a better idea where the DNS is and how better to use it.
Thanks
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join:2008-06-17 Independence, MO
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| Re: Tool can tell you what DNS servers Comcast has & where I can't complain here is what I get for ad redirect:
Pinging 68.87.72.134 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 68.87.72.134: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=56 Reply from 68.87.72.134: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=56 Reply from 68.87.72.134: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=56 Reply from 68.87.72.134: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=56
Ping statistics for 68.87.72.134: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 37ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 44ms
Non ad redirect:
Pinging 68.87.72.130 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 68.87.72.130: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=56 Reply from 68.87.72.130: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=56 Reply from 68.87.72.130: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=56 Reply from 68.87.72.130: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=56
Ping statistics for 68.87.72.130: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 41ms, Maximum = 52ms, Average = 45ms
The above is my DNS so there isn't much difference from machine to DNS. I don't think clicking on the Did you mean URL makes much difference unless Comcast is rewarded for my typo. | |
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@rr.com
| NO It does NOT replace the traditional 404 page.
Why do you continue to say this EVERY time DNS redirection is reported on here?
A 404 is an error page returned by a web server. That means DNS actually worked, and you got to a non-working link.
DNS redirection looks at DNS queries, not at port 80/443 connections to web servers.
No one's 404 pages are being replaced by Comcast's or anyone's DNS redirection. | |
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join:2005-04-07 West Lafayette, IN
| Re: NO I'm pretty sure the topic was 'server not found' but 404 slipped through.
I never claim to be competent before half a pot of coffee..
But yeah the idea is that if you type google.om or something similar you know what I just gave up explaining halfway through the sentence you know what I'm talking about anyhow. | |
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join:2009-08-13 Knoxville, TN
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·AT&T DSL Service
1 edit | 'Domain helpers' are a pain I have relied on DNS protocol feedback like NXDomain for years with several different apps.
It's not a matter of being a 'net purist' but the fact that their 'enhancement' really breaks the DNS protocol. It's annoying!
OpenDNS is corrupted with 'helper' junk as well, and unlike Comcast, you CANNOT opt out. At least Comcast gives you a choice. | |
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join:2005-05-12 Englishtown, NJ
| Re: 'Domain helpers' are a pain said by Skwhirl :OpenDNS is corrupted with 'helper' junk as well, and unlike Comcast, you CANNOT opt out. At least Comcast gives you a choice. I thought you could just point your router, PC or whatever to new DNS servers of your choice. That would be your opt-out. | |
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| Re: 'Domain helpers' are a pain You can't?
quote: $ nslookup this-is-a-bogus-domain-okzx1234.com 208.67.220.220 Server: 208.67.220.220 Address: 208.67.220.220#53
** server can't find this-is-a-bogus-domain-okzx1234.com: NXDOMAIN
Only if you don't sign up for an account, which is free. The opt-out is also not cookie-based. The output above came from my linux box, which has never been to opendns.com. -- In dadkins' memory, Think outside the Fox... | |
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join:2001-04-24 Mount Laurel, NJ | ha Comcast is so cute sometimes. lol At least OpenDNS will update will similar or cooler features now.  | |
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join:2005-04-07 West Lafayette, IN | Off topic. Hey piratebay's trackers never came back online for me after they switched ISP's. Is that just me having slow dns or is it fudged for everybody else? | |
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join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs: | Re: Off topic. works using opendns
might need to flush your dns cache. | |
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