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This time starring the individual who first discovered it...
02:23PM Friday Jul 25 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: legal · business · cable · Comcast
In May of last year, Broadband Reports user Robb Topolski posted in our forums that Comcast appeared to be forging TCP packets in order to throttle upstream P2P traffic for all users, regardless of consumption. That finding ultimately led to a wave of press coverage, an FCC investigation, and forced (or will by the end of 2008) Comcast to embrace a more transparent way of managing their network (most likely 250GB caps and very targeted throttling). Topolski has since gone on to work with consumer advocacy organizations Free Press and Public Knowledge, and this week is the leading plaintiff in a new class action lawsuit against Comcast:

Topolski, asked via e-mail how much he believes Comcast owes him, replied that the question is "tremendously complicated." "This involves more than just Robb Topolski and how he was impacted," Topolski wrote. "It involves a very large group of people, it spans quite a bit of time on an expensive service, and it involves deception. So the lawyers are going to have to figure out how to explain this to the courts and the process ahead has to decide the amount."
The FCC is expected to vote in early August on whether Comcast is guilty of misleading consumers, and how they should be punished. FCC boss Kevin Martin has already stated he believes the company is guilty, but should be "sanctioned" with no fine.

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pandora
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250GB sounds low

250 GB sounds low to me, 400 GB would seem more reasonable.

DanHo
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Re: 250GB sounds low

Either way, Comcrap needs to give the users a way to track their usage if they are going to implement caps.
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pandora
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Re: 250GB sounds low

Agreed!
hottboiinnc
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people on this website wanted an actual cap. well they have one ready to be put in place. So you can blame everyone on here for wanting it in writing.

GlobalMind
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

people on this website wanted an actual cap. well they have one ready to be put in place. So you can blame everyone on here for wanting it in writing.
Well that's misstating a bit.

People here weren't looking for a cap per se. What they wanted was for Comcast (or any other ISP for that matter) to disclose the number they believe was too high a consumption.

Basically if they're going to send subs letters saying subs are hogs, the ISP has an obligation to tell you what the heck that means, and also to provide some kind of meter so you know where you are.

Limits without disclosure is crap.
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wings10
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by GlobalMind See Profile :

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

people on this website wanted an actual cap. well they have one ready to be put in place. So you can blame everyone on here for wanting it in writing.
Well that's misstating a bit.

People here weren't looking for a cap per se. What they wanted was for Comcast (or any other ISP for that matter) to disclose the number they believe was too high a consumption.

Basically if they're going to send subs letters saying subs are hogs, the ISP has an obligation to tell you what the heck that means, and also to provide some kind of meter so you know where you are.

Limits without disclosure is crap.
Well now you know. It is 250GB. If your downloading that much your doing something illegal IMO.
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by wings10 See Profile :

If your downloading that much your doing something illegal IMO.
Well that is just plain stupid. Between my Xbox 360 and Wii (downloading demos, tv shows, movies), VOIP, DirecTV on Demand, and Netflix streaming I can easily get over 250GB a month. Do you see me doing anything illegal in any of those things?
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quatrix

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Re: 250GB sounds low

You're in the minority. My guess is that at least 90% of people who exceed 250 GB are doing something they shouldn't.

DanHo
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Re: 250GB sounds low

And 90% of statistics can be made to say whatever you want when you don't have any data to back it up. /sarcasm
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said by quatrix See Profile :

You're in the minority. My guess is that at least 90% of people who exceed 250 GB are doing something they shouldn't.
You might want to rethink this line.

It should actually be 5% -10%, if that, of those who exceed the 250GB cap are doing something illegal. The rest of folks who do, might, may or will exceed that limit would be like the poster DanHo See Profile, who may have 4 or more people online gaming, watching YouTube, watching Hulu, Veoh, or other online legal activity.

Sometimes one has to think on how many in a family are online and using it legally before bitching about caps, limits and the like.

And the ISP's need to rethink the caps very hard. They're assuming (not a good thing as it makes an ass out of you and me) that a family actively online would be able to live with caps lower than 250GB (TWC's 5GB - 40GB caps). Someone in the Glass House on the Glass Throne is not seeing the real world as it is today, but is seeing the world as it once was under all the archaic limits and high usage fees that have gone the way of the doo-doo bird of yesteryear. They're thinking that the consumer will roll over and pay through the nose just because. Guess again!!
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said by quatrix See Profile :

You're in the minority. My guess is that at least 90% of people who exceed 250 GB are doing something they shouldn't.
And how does this one sound -- sorry, I'm in a wierd mood --

"At least 90% of the people who exceed 70MPH on the highway are doing something they shouldn't."

It's about exceeding 250 gigs, right?

ANYONE who drives faster than 70 (except police, fire trucks, ambulances, etc...) is doing something illegal. Right?

So, therefore, everyone who exceeds 250 gigs is doing something wrong (insofar as they are exceeding 250 gigs).

See, it's so beautiful -- Everyone/anyone who exceeds 250 gigs is doing something wrong. It's 100%, not 90%.

I think it's beautiful.

FoodForThought

@sbcglobal.net
Regardless of whether or not what you're doing is illegal, you're still causing the same amount of congestion on Comcast's network as someone who downloads 250GB of illegal content per month.
EPS

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Re: 250GB sounds low

No, because if you time your large downloads right and do them in the off-peak time, you can avoid congesting Comcast's network. Note that general caps would hit either way- even the satellite FAP systems loosen up in the middle of the night when bandwidth is least used.

DanHo
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said by FoodForThought :

Regardless of whether or not what you're doing is illegal, you're still causing the same amount of congestion on Comcast's network as someone who downloads 250GB of illegal content per month.
 
I don't disagree with that assessment. However, the post I referred to said that if you come close a 250GB/mo cap, you have to be doing something illegal.
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fiberguy
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Are you doing anything illegal? no.. not at all, but, what you are doing, like others, is joining in a mistake, at this time. The internet is NOT a tv connection. While some are offering services to make it so, ..doesn't.

The internet is not ready to have all this stuff tossed it's way. We have satellite, cable, and phone offerings for video right now. People who want to turn the internet into a video stream as a form of cable are going to learn the hard way that it's not the way to go.

And, still, DirecTV on Demand.. what a joke of a service.. If DirecTV wants to offer a so called OnDemand, they should never have gotten out of the data business in the first place.. instead, they are doing exactly what SBC was screaming about... getting rich off the backs of the ISPs.

This move to cap was only inevitable.
fldiver
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Re: 250GB sounds low

Excuse me, I think you are overlooking the obvious; DTV pays a great deal of money to whatever backbone provider they use to host the service, so how is it that you feel they are doing it on the backs of ISP's? That it just an incorrect conclusion on your part. The truth is, that Comcast and other ISP's have over SOLD their capacity and as usual now they want to penalize the people who pay for the service for legitimate uses. I am sure it sticks in Comcast's crawl when their competitor can use their backbone to provide entertainment, but guess what, suck it up and deal with it, I pay Comcast for a pipe to the NET, nothing more nothing less; what I do with it (as long as it is deemed legal) is MY BUSNIESS.
fiberguy
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by fldiver See Profile :

Excuse me, I think you are overlooking the obvious; DTV pays a great deal of money to whatever backbone provider they use to host the service, so how is it that you feel they are doing it on the backs of ISP's?
First off, you really don't know WHAT they are paying.. it could be a lot of money, or it may not. We do know they are paying for some sort of bandwidth, yes.

That it just an incorrect conclusion on your part. The truth is, that Comcast and other ISP's have over SOLD their capacity and as usual now they want to penalize the people who pay for the service for legitimate uses.
What you don't understand is the difference between residential and business use services. If you want dedicated bandwidth to do as you please, buy business service. With that, be prepared to pay for the line and for the transport as well. (Nothing is unlimited) Residential services are always oversold - be it DSL, CABLE, or yes, even the grand old Fios. The ENTIRE INTERNET is oversold. If you built the internet at large to be able to handle use by EVERY person at the same time, all the time, you're head would spin with the bill.

Your assumptions are wrong.

I am sure it sticks in Comcast's crawl when their competitor can use their backbone to provide entertainment, but guess what, suck it up and deal with it, I pay Comcast for a pipe to the NET, nothing more nothing less; what I do with it (as long as it is deemed legal) is MY BUSNIESS.
Um, again, you're wrong. What you do with the pipe is partially their business - read your AUP. And you are right.. it IS sticking with ISPs (You single out Comcast, who by the way, of all plans out there to cap, so far, has been the most generous..)but, as I've said before, what do you think will happen? CAPS!

While DTV may pay an alleged huge sum of money for data, it doesn't mean you do. You also forget that you pay for speeds to the internet, you do not pay for transport. Your line is rated/priced for residential use. SOME people believe that residential use is to download torrents 24/7, too. At present, 24/7 use is NOT typical residential use.

Take that term to court.. typical residential use. A test will be placed on that claim that 24/7 torrent is typical use. A study will be done, a large amount of people will be shown they don't use 24/7 service as residential use, and your claim is invalidated.

What you think in your mind as right, I'm sorry to say, isn't. MANY of the arguments here, are not. You guys also forget that companies, as much as you want to hate them into non-existence (which won't happen) HAVE RIGHTS! Why do I stand by them a lot of the time? .. because the reality is that there is a balance in the market place that exists between consumer and provider. While the consumer may want want want, they never want to give in return and their desires, if they got their way, would put businesses out of, well, business.

People HAVE to be realistic. What's the alternative? Socialism. ... and I will defend against that. The sad truth is that people simply don't think!
fldiver
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July 26th, @07:17PM

Re: 250GB sounds low

You certainly do praddle on a lot; I did say legal so unlike some others I actually have read the AUP with Comcast; and regardless of what DTV pays, they pay something, do not think for a minute that Comcast doesn't pay pennies per MB in backbone charges.

Moving on, nothing worth reading here

DanHo
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Oh, brother. At this point, until the ISPs set some clear rules and boundaries regarding what I can and can't do with the internet connection that I pay for, I will continue to use services that will eat their bandwidth.
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fiberguy
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by DanHo See Profile :

Oh, brother. At this point, until the ISPs set some clear rules and boundaries regarding what I can and can't do with the internet connection that I pay for, I will continue to use services that will eat their bandwidth.
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... and I'm sorry to tell you, but it's that attitude that is driving this need to cap! The ISPs have to be able to manage a network. Some people think that the internet is infinite and you just turn it on and it runs like your home network.. no cost to transport. It's not true. This is one side of a multi-sided argument. "It's my connection and I'll use it how I want".. that's not to say that the provider won't counter you and say ".. and we're turning on the meeter."

At one point, my community, water was un-metered. They learned that it was time to move to the meter system. It's bound to happen.

Like I said, the internet isn't designed, right now, for everything to be thrown at it. You obviously don't recognize the balance of the internet. Content far outpaces the ability to upgrade networks. People can easily set up a server and shove something down the line faster than the lines can be upgraded or SHOULD be upgraded. People often forget that the upgrades are only going to meet what the consumer will demand... meaning, how much are you willing to pay?

I can't be any more clear, I'd guess, pure guess, that about 70% of the people on this site are clueless when it comes to reality. Its easy to want, its easy to assume, and its easy to say its so.. but it won't change what's coming.

There's not shilling, there's no paid compensation for my opinion here.. but it's reality. Those that push the envelope and try to force the hand of anyone else, be it a business, a large corporation, or another person, wind up being met with resistance or counter action. The arrogance of "it's mine and I can do what I want" argument is the very forcing of the hand that is bringing about caps. If every person felt that internet was an unlimited resource and people continue to fight network management at every turn, well, caps come and they will continue to let you use what ever you want.. be prepared to write big checks. The one fact you forgot is that you didn't purchase anything, you are renting it.

And, you wanted clear rules,.. you're getting them.
fldiver
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Re: 250GB sounds low

I am glad no one is paying you for your opinion, I for one would request a refund..

DanHo
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

... and I'm sorry to tell you, but it's that attitude that is driving this need to cap! The ISPs have to be able to manage a network. Some people think that the internet is infinite and you just turn it on and it runs like your home network.. no cost to transport. It's not true. This is one side of a multi-sided argument. "It's my connection and I'll use it how I want".. that's not to say that the provider won't counter you and say ".. and we're turning on the meeter."

At one point, my community, water was un-metered. They learned that it was time to move to the meter system. It's bound to happen.

Like I said, the internet isn't designed, right now, for everything to be thrown at it. You obviously don't recognize the balance of the internet. Content far outpaces the ability to upgrade networks. People can easily set up a server and shove something down the line faster than the lines can be upgraded or SHOULD be upgraded. People often forget that the upgrades are only going to meet what the consumer will demand... meaning, how much are you willing to pay?

I can't be any more clear, I'd guess, pure guess, that about 70% of the people on this site are clueless when it comes to reality. Its easy to want, its easy to assume, and its easy to say its so.. but it won't change what's coming.

There's not shilling, there's no paid compensation for my opinion here.. but it's reality. Those that push the envelope and try to force the hand of anyone else, be it a business, a large corporation, or another person, wind up being met with resistance or counter action. The arrogance of "it's mine and I can do what I want" argument is the very forcing of the hand that is bringing about caps. If every person felt that internet was an unlimited resource and people continue to fight network management at every turn, well, caps come and they will continue to let you use what ever you want.. be prepared to write big checks. The one fact you forgot is that you didn't purchase anything, you are renting it.

And, you wanted clear rules,.. you're getting them.
Where have I complained about the need for caps? You assume and your assumption is wrong.

I responded to wings10 See Profile's comment regarding that if you are using that much you must be doing something illegal. All I said was I can use around 250GB/mo doing nothing illegal. Then you went on you tirade about network management. I don't use 250GB/mo every month. I gave one example that where I had.

If the ISPs want to implement caps, go ahead. They will need to give consumers a way to monitor usage or they will have some nice lawsuits on their hands.

As usual, you are attacking the wrong person for something that you failed to comprehend. This is the end of my conversation regarding this.
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googoodan

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I'm a pretty frequent downloader from Xbox Live - having over 95% of the XBLA games and regularly downloading movies and tv shows (in high defintion). If that even gets close to 1/10th of the cap in a month, then that simply means you are downloading the same thing several times. It says a lot about a person who can "easily get over 250GB a mont" by downloading movies from XBL, DireTV on demand and Netflix, and having time to watch them AND has time to make over 6500 posts to DSLR. You are one serious movie buff!

You have some adorable children on your profile and you have a USMC logo as your avatar. May I suggest that you get your priorities in order?
rhexis

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said by DanHo See Profile :

said by wings10 See Profile :

If your downloading that much your doing something illegal IMO.
Well that is just plain stupid. Between my Xbox 360 and Wii (downloading demos, tv shows, movies), VOIP, DirecTV on Demand, and Netflix streaming I can easily get over 250GB a month. Do you see me doing anything illegal in any of those things?
wow do you do anything else besides watch tv and use your computer? you forgot to mention all those linux distros too.
MrSpock29

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said by wings10 See Profile :

said by GlobalMind See Profile :

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

people on this website wanted an actual cap. well they have one ready to be put in place. So you can blame everyone on here for wanting it in writing.
Well that's misstating a bit.

People here weren't looking for a cap per se. What they wanted was for Comcast (or any other ISP for that matter) to disclose the number they believe was too high a consumption.

Basically if they're going to send subs letters saying subs are hogs, the ISP has an obligation to tell you what the heck that means, and also to provide some kind of meter so you know where you are.

Limits without disclosure is crap.
Well now you know. It is 250GB. If your downloading that much your doing something illegal IMO.
Your opinion is wrong. I exceeded that because their service didn't work right, kept timing out, and caused files to not completed their downloads, so sometimes it took several attempts to download 1 (large) file. Oh and I'm not the only user in this house either. There was ZERO P2P going on here. ALL files are found in the public domain.
Yes, I downloaded a lot of large files, but everything was on the up and up.

Just because YOU don't use that much, it is very wrong for you to assume that those who do are doing something illegal.

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July 25th, @04:25PM

said by wings10 :

Well now you know. It is 250GB. If your downloading that much your doing something illegal IMO.
LOL well you are entitled to that opinion.

But that's not the point anyway. The thing was placing limits on the service while saying they weren't, and then refusing to say what the limit was that would get you booted.

The actual content isn't the point either, and your opinion on that piece is pretty funny.
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maxpower

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quote:
Well now you know. It is 250GB. If your downloading that much your doing something illegal IMO.
In your opinion, how much do you have to use to be doing something illegal? 20 gigs? 50 gigs? 175 gigs? How much do you use per month?
wispalord

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you can hit this with streaming media easily, like hd screams on hulu.com or most network websites.
fldiver
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July 26th, @09:53AM

Just because you don't make use of the internet the way others have us (LEGALLY may I add) don't make inane statements that just because someone uses more than 250GB they are doing something illegal; that really is a very TIRED argument. Put it to rest already!

-Dan
hottboiinnc
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but like i said. people on this site wanted a number. Comcast said a number and is about to put it out for the public to start to use.

If you don't like it you can blame everyone on this site that hates Comcast for what ever reasons even if they DO NOT use them (ie: in Canada) because they "think" it was unfair.
MrSpock29

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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

but like i said. people on this site wanted a number. Comcast said a number and is about to put it out for the public to start to use.

If you don't like it you can blame everyone on this site that hates Comcast for what ever reasons even if they DO NOT use them (ie: in Canada) because they "think" it was unfair.
None of us wanted caps, but we also didn't want to be told there was a hidden one, and then not be able to tell us what it was, and that they'll change that every month. It is unethical at best, illegal at worst.
You can't tell someone they exceeded a cap, and then decide not to tell them what that cap was. Especially since in the TOS it didn't say there were hidden caps, and it didn't give any numbers. The jerk from QA told me to go ahead and sue. Nice attitude.
hottboiinnc
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July 26th, @06:07PM

Re: 250GB sounds low

QA?

Added: but if you don't want a hidden one and didnt matter if you werent hitting it or not; why want it defined if it wasn't you getting a letter or the call from the Abuse department? You'd be better off not knowing if you were under the radar.

But since you wanted to know Comcast told you want 250gigs per month.
MrSpock29

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July 26th, @08:24PM

Re: 250GB sounds low

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

QA?

Added: but if you don't want a hidden one and didnt matter if you werent hitting it or not; why want it defined if it wasn't you getting a letter or the call from the Abuse department? You'd be better off not knowing if you were under the radar.

But since you wanted to know Comcast told you want 250gigs per month.
lol, you need to read things better. Of course I did get a call from Quality Assurance, I refer to it below even. And if my service had been working properly, things probably wouldn't have to be downloaded so many times before I got one complete copy.
QA was nasty, unhelpful, and I had to deal with them several times. They so much as told me they weren't there to help, just read off their list and that's it. That's why I wasn't allowed to speak to a supervisor or even ask his name, according to him.
Believe me, there was a lot covered in that call, including the AUP. Not to smart to admit that "yeah, it is unlimited, but we have a limit". Give me a break.

And this was before they threw out that 250 Gb cap. What I wanted to know was how I can go over a cap that didn't exist, and wasn't in the AUP, and that they wouldn't give.
hottboiinnc
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Re: 250GB sounds low

You most likely got a call from the Network Abuse team. They are the department that really doesnt give a damn. But they stopped advertising and using the word "unlimited" several years before all this came up.
MrSpock29

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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

You most likely got a call from the Network Abuse team. They are the department that really doesnt give a damn. But they stopped advertising and using the word "unlimited" several years before all this came up.
they called it Quality Assurance. And he didn't shy away from the word when I raised the issue. See the quote above. Either way, I was treated very badly by them, wrongly accused of downloading illegal stuff, (even though I showed their own tech all the graphics I was making, and the files used-I showed him the computer and we tested it when he fixed my issue). . They apparently are as ignorant as those in here who assume you can't use bandwidth legally. However, that isn't smart of them because they can trace what I downloaded. I had them track me after they fixed my service. Regardless of what terminology they stopped using, this was also about what terminology they DIDN'T use. I'll stop here for some other reasons.

CarterStClai
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I never wanted a cap!
fiberguy
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Re: 250GB sounds low

Someone else said, too, no one asked for caps.. but to know what they are/were. Well, by asking what the cap is, sets one.

Another user stated that the end user wasn't the reason caps are being put in place.. with out users, there are no caps.

Caps suck, but so do the people that push the limits, thus, the hands of the ISPs to battle them... and here come caps.
quintin3265

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First, I think it's great that Comcast is going to implement this. It's a step forward and the company will finally be ethical instead of practicing the "selective enforcement" they do now.

On the other hand, people are misunderstanding this because it's all rumor for now and has not yet been implemented. Until it is, I (and hopefully everyone else) will keep spreading as much bad publicity as possible to get Comcast to treat its users fairly.
TIGERON

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Nobody said they wanted a cap. What people wanted was an honest answer as what too much is too much.
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by TIGERON See Profile :

Nobody said they wanted a cap. What people wanted was an honest answer as what too much is too much.
What do you think that gets? ... a cap. If you find out what the cap is, it must be enforced. If not, and it was lose, you'd see lawsuits flying that they weren't enforcing caps fairly.

Mashiki
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I'd trade you for 250GB, I'm dealing with 60GB on a 7/.5 connection. I do however, wish you the best of luck in getting a higher cap or none at all.

Alcohol
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said by pandora See Profile :

250 GB sounds low to me, 400 GB would seem more reasonable.
To me it's not about the amount of GB allowed. I'll admit i'm a heavy user. The 250gb is no way near sufficient for me as i've done 4-5 times as much in a month. To me this whole thing is about taking a step in the wrong direction. As we progress to a more proactive internet lifestyle with p2p tv, high definition trailers, legal music downloading - adding restrictions to our usage is just going to hold the future technology back.
pandora
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Re: 250GB sounds low

I have a question, if anyone knows the answer, I'd appreciate your help.

If we go with Comcast business, which costs about double the cost of Comcast residential, are the caps gone?

In my area I can more than double my speed for double the cost per month, but if it means there are no caps to worry about, it may be worth it.

Does anyone know if Comcast business has caps?
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MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

Re: 250GB sounds low

said by pandora See Profile :

I have a question, if anyone knows the answer, I'd appreciate your help.

If we go with Comcast business, which costs about double the cost of Comcast residential, are the caps gone?

In my area I can more than double my speed for double the cost per month, but if it means there are no caps to worry about, it may be worth it.

Does anyone know if Comcast business has caps?
When I was trying to save the situation, they quickly sent me to Comcast Business. I got 3 different answers, believe it or not. The last guy I spoke to was very nice, and helpful. He told me that there would be caps too, but I'd be paying more for lower speeds, so I'd be better off staying with residential service.
I tried to work with Comcast for 3 weeks, but apparently no one important at "comcast care(s)".
pandora
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Outland
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Re: 250GB sounds low

said by MrSpock29 See Profile :

When I was trying to save the situation, they quickly sent me to Comcast Business. I got 3 different answers, believe it or not. The last guy I spoke to was very nice, and helpful. He told me that there would be caps too, but I'd be paying more for lower speeds, so I'd be better off staying with residential service.
I tried to work with Comcast for 3 weeks, but apparently no one important at "comcast care(s)".
Thanks for your informative post. I guess this means with Comcast there is no way around caps. Unless they articulate a different policy. I would have considered a business plan not to worry about caps.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."
MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

Re: 250GB sounds low

said by pandora See Profile :

said by MrSpock29 See Profile :

When I was trying to save the situation, they quickly sent me to Comcast Business. I got 3 different answers, believe it or not. The last guy I spoke to was very nice, and helpful. He told me that there would be caps too, but I'd be paying more for lower speeds, so I'd be better off staying with residential service.
I tried to work with Comcast for 3 weeks, but apparently no one important at "comcast care(s)".
Thanks for your informative post. I guess this means with Comcast t