Cisco Patents the Triple Play( old news - 10:39AM Friday Oct 13 2006) Light Reading editor Phil Harvey points out that Cisco was recently awarded patent number 7075109, which covers any "System and method for providing integrated voice, video and data to customer premises over a single network."
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CO_Chris
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Broomfield, CO | WTF? Are thay nuts how can thay patent this? and also who gave it to them in the first place? Someone was smoking Crack that's for sure. | |
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GlennAllen
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| Re: WTF? Yep, but who is more stupid?
1)Cisco for filing for such a patent
2)The Patent Office for granting it, or
3)Lawmakers for making laws which allow for such a thing as a "software patent" in the first place
(Trick question... they're all equally stupid.) | |
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| said by CO_Chris  :Are thay nuts how can thay patent this? and also who gave it to them in the first place? Someone was smoking Crack that's for sure. Why don't you take time and read the patent instead of taking a WAG?
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What is claimed is:
1. A method for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises, comprising: receiving television programming from a programming source; converting the television programming to a common format for communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol; receiving data from a data network in the common format of the common communication protocol for communication over the single network infrastructure; receiving telephone communications from a telephone network; converting the telephone communications to the common format for communication over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol; communicating the converted television programming, data, and converted telephone communications in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering; and assigning customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected from the group consisting of selected television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming, wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction.
2. The method of claim 1, further comprising communicating data from a customer premises to the data network in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol.
3. The method of claim 1, further comprising communicating telephone communications from a customer premises to the telephone network in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol.
4. The method of claim 1, wherein the programming source comprises one or more satellite or terrestrial antennas transmitting the content of one or more television channels.
5. The method of claim 1, wherein the programming source comprises one or more digital or tape storage systems transmitting audio or video content.
6. The method of claim 1, where the programming source comprises one or more non-broadcast, switched linear video or audio sources.
7. The method of claim 1, wherein the data network comprises the Internet.
8. The method of claim 1, wherein the data network comprises an intranet or an extranet.
9. The method of claim 1, wherein the telephone network comprises the Public Switched Telephone Network.
10. The method of claim 1, wherein the communications protocol comprises a packet-based communications protocol.
11. The method of claim 1, wherein the communications protocol comprises Internet Protocol (IP).
12. The method of claim 11, wherein communicating the television programming to the customer premises comprises IP multicasting the television programming to multiple customer premises.
13. The method of claim 1, wherein the single network infrastructure comprises an Ethernet network.
14. The method of claim 1, further comprising: providing additional content selected from the group consisting of video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, interactive games, video including media markup and linking, and audio including media markup and linking; and communicating the selected content in the common format over the single network infrastructure to one or more customer premises using the common communications protocol.
15. The method of claim 1, further comprising displaying a web page at the customer premises that includes content selected from the group consisting of television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and telephone messaging and configuration information.
16. The method of claim 1, wherein: the data comprises media markup and linking information; and the method further comprises displaying the media markup and linking information in combination with the television programming at the customer premises.
17. The method of claim 16, wherein the media markup and linking information comprises a link to content selected from the group consisting of television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming.
18. The method of claim 1, wherein: the data comprises media markup and linking information; and the method further comprises displaying the media markup and linking information in combination with radio programming at the customer premises.
19. The method of claim 1, wherein: the data comprises media markup and linking information; and the method further comprises displaying the media markup and linking information at the customer premises in combination with content selected from the group consisting of video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming.
20. The method of claim 19, wherein the media markup and linking information comprises a link to content selected from the group consisting of television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming.
21. The method of claim 1, wherein: the telephone communications comprise caller identification information; and the method further comprises displaying the caller identification and caller labeling information in combination with radio programming at the customer premises.
22. The method of claim 1, further comprising encrypting the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications for decryption by selected customer premises.
23. The method of claim 1, further comprising conditioning access to the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications based on a list of approved customer premises devices.
24. The method of claim 1, further comprising conditioning access to the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications based on the geographic location of a customer premises device.
25. A method for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises, comprising: receiving television programming from a programming source; converting the television programming to a common format for communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol; receiving data from a data network in the common format of the common communication protocol for communication over the single network infrastructure; receiving telephone communications from a telephone network, the telephone communications comprising caller identification information; converting the telephone communications to the common format for communication over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol; communicating the converted television programming, data, and converted telephone communications in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering; assigning customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected from the group consisting of selected television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming, wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction; and displaying the caller identification and caller labeling information in combination with the content at the customer premises.
26. A system for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises, comprising: a receiver operable to receive television programming; a video encoder operable to convert the television programming into a common format for communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol; a telecommunication switch coupled to a telephone network and operable to receive telephone communications from the telephone network; a gateway operable to convert the telephone communications into the common format for communication over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol; and a router coupled to the video encoder, to the gateway, and to a data network that communicates data in the common format using the common communication protocol, the router operable to: receive the converted television programming, the converted telephone communications, and the data from the data network, all in the common format; communicate the converted television programming, the converted telephone communications, and the data in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering; and assign customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected from the group consisting of selected television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming, wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction.
27. The system of claim 26, further comprising a customer premises operable to receive and communicate data over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol.
28. The system of claim 26, wherein the receiver is operable to receive television programming from a satellite dish.
29. The system of claim 26, wherein the receiver is operable to receive television programming from an antenna.
30. The system of claim 26, wherein the receiver is operable to receive television programming from one or more non-broadcast, switched linear video or audio sources.
31. The system of claim 26, wherein the receiver is operable to receive television programming from one or more digital or tape storage systems transmitting audio or video content.
32. The system of claim 26, wherein the data network comprises the Internet.
33. The system of claim 26, wherein the data network comprises an intranet or an extranet.
34. The system of claim 26, wherein the telephone network comprises the Public Switched Telephone Network.
35. The system of claim 26, wherein the communications protocol comprises a packet-based communications protocol.
36. The system of claim 26, wherein the communications protocol comprises Internet Protocol (IP).
37. The system of claim 36, wherein communicating the television programming to the customer premises comprises multicasting the television programming to multiple customer premises.
38. The system of claim 26, wherein the single network infrastructure comprises an Ethernet network.
39. The system of claim 26, further comprising one or more servers operable to communicate additional content in the common format over the single network infrastructure to one or more customer premises using the common communications protocol, the additional content selected from the group consisting of video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, interactive games, video including media markup and linking, and audio including media markup and linking.
40. The system of claim 26, further comprising one or more servers operable to communicate a web page to the customer premises that includes content selected from the group consisting of television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and telephone configuration information.
41. The system of claim 26, further comprising one or more servers operable to communicate media markup and linking information in combination with the television programming to the customer premises.
42. The system of claim 41, wherein the media markup and linking information comprises a link to content selected from the group consisting of television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming.
43. The system of claim 26, further comprising one or more servers operable to communicate media markup and linking information to the customer premises in combination with content selected from the group consisting of video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming.
44. The system of claim 43, wherein the media markup and linking information comprises a link to content selected from the group consisting of television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming.
45. The system of claim 26, further comprising encryption software operable to encrypt the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications for decryption by selected customer premises.
46. The system of claim 26, wherein the router is further operable to condition access to the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications based on a list of approved customer premises devices.
47. The system of claim 26, wherein the router is further operable to condition access to the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications based on the geographic location of a customer premises device.
48. A system for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises, comprising: a receiver operable to receive television programming; a video encoder operable to convert the television programming into a common format for communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol; a telecommunication switch coupled to a telephone network and operable to receive telephone communications from the telephone network, the telephone communications comprising caller identification information; a gateway operable to convert the telephone communications into the common format for communication over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol; and a router coupled to the video encoder, to the gateway, and to a data network that communicates data in the common format using the common communication protocol, the router operable to: receive the converted television programming, the converted telephone communications, and the data from the data network, all in the common format; and communicate the converted television programming, the converted telephone communications, and the data in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering; assign customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected from the group consisting of selected television programming, video-on-demand, pay-per-view video, near-video-on-demand, audio channels, audio-on-demand, and interactive gaming, wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction; and a network appliance operable to display the caller identification information in combination with the content at the customer premises.
Description
TECHNICAL FIELD OF THE INVENTION
This invention relates generally to the field of communications and networking, and more particularly to a system and method for providing integrated voice, video, and data to customer premises over a single network infrastructure.
BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION
Voice, video, and data services are currently provided to customer premises over several different network infrastructures and by several different companies. For example, television programming is typically provided to customer premises through one of many private cable television networks or through satellite transmissions received using personal satellite dishes. Voice and other telephony are also communicated to customer premises over a separate infrastructure, the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN). The Internet also includes a separate infrastructure of various fiber optic and other data networks, often accessed from the customer premises through a private cable television network or the PSTN. Each of these network infrastructures has its own unique physical architecture, communication protocols, and other characteristics which are typically incompatible with the architectures, protocols, and characteristics of the other network infrastructures.
On occasion these infrastructures may share some components in order to reach the customer premises, but this typically requires layering systems on top of one another or requires translation between the various systems in order to provide the desired collection of services to the customer premises. For example, data may be communicated to the customer premises using a cable television network, in conjunction with a cable modem. However, to communicate this data along with cable television signals, repackaging and translation are required to fit the data into the cable television network's frequency space. Another example is the use of the PSTN to provide data to the customer premises using digital subscriber line (DSL) technology. The inherent incompatibility of traditional telephone and cable television networks with data networks such as the Internet has created many problems for both users and the service providers, preventing service providers from delivering integrated voice, video, and data to customer premises over a single network infrastructure.
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
According to the present invention, disadvantages and problems associated with previous systems and methods for providing voice, video, and data to customer premises have been substantially reduced or eliminated.
According to one embodiment of the present invention, a method for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises includes receiving television programming from a programming source, receiving data from a data network, and receiving telephone communications from a telephone network. The method further includes placing the television programming, data, and telephone communications in a common format for integrated communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol. In addition, the method includes communicating the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering.
The system and method of the present invention provide a number of important technical advantages. Rather than attempting to converge the incompatible architectures, protocols, and other characteristics of the various existing voice, video and data network infrastructures, the present invention provides a single fully interoperable network that uses a common standard protocol, such as TCP/IP, to provide integrated voice, video, and data content to customer premises over a single communication link. Since all services are provided to the customer premises using a single network infrastructure, problems associated with delivering incompatible services to the customer premises are eliminated. The single network infrastructure of the present invention also allows for enhanced troubleshooting, fault-tolerance, access restriction, and other important benefits.
Not only does the delivery of voice, video, and data services over a single network infrastructure using a common protocol eliminate many technical problems, it also provides many opportunities to increase customer satisfaction. For example, since a number of services are delivered together by a single entity, customers can be charged for these services using a single bill. This bill may be provided to the user over the network. Furthermore, the use of a common protocol allows devices at the customer premises to be integrated and to provide functionality that is not available when these devices are coupled to and receive content from separate networks. For example, the customer's television may be used to answer video telephone calls and the customer's telephone may be used to change channels on the television. In addition, since various voice, video, and data services are provided using the same network infrastructure, these services may be combined in numerous ways. For example, caller identification information may be displayed over a movie that a customer is viewing on a television or a web link may be provided in association with a television commercial. A variety of other service combinations are similarly enabled. Other important technical advantages are readily apparent to those skilled in the art from the following figures, descriptions and claims.
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The whole Patent looks like a new protocol. | |
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tsu
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Wheeling, IL | Re: Another stupid patent The patent system is in dire need of reform. | |
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| Re: Another stupid patent said by tsu :The patent system is in dire need of reform. the patent system is broken. | |
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Alexandria, VA | ??? Do not get this? How you can patent this? This is like patent line Assembly/production in a manufacturing...
So I guess is either you buy our equipment or we sue you if you offer Triple Play | |
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| Re: ??? Considering kids, through their lawyer parents, have patented a particular dance move, it isn't that unusual. Ridiculous, but not unusual. | |
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| Skip the middle man I'm in the process of patenting "innovation". Any concept, ideal, practice, technology, hope of achieving anything with the goal of "improvement" will be subject to a royalty in my behalf.
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Skip the middle man Now all cable companies and phone companies gotta pay cisco for using there rights. | |
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The Lou | Re: Skip the middle man I'm sure efforts to collect fees will be set aside if telcos and MSO's elect to choose Cisco as their infrastructure vendor...
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CO_Chris
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Broomfield, CO | well triple play is out and Quad deals will come in place now.I think Comcast/TWC will have a re branded cell phones i think sprint is the one not sure. | |
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| if it comes to lawyers warfare Comcast could trash cisco as they simply have more money to throw around. infact of all the companies ignore this and band their resrouces to buy lawyers a they would squish cisco like a bug,
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insomniac84
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Schererville, IN | Every computer infringes? Doesn't computers transfer data, voice, and video over a single network when just surfing the web? Plus isn't voice and video just data? | |
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Levittown, PA | WTF? They patented a cellphone?  | |
| ElJay
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| Nice "system" I think every ISP in the country is currently in violation of that patent. Last night I played Day of Defeat: Source over my DSL connection. In that game I had integrated voice and data transmission occurring. Then later that night I watched "Lost" on ABC's website over the same line.... Oh man, it's not looking good for the internet's patent-infringing integrated voice/video/data system. | |
| magnushsi
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Cedar Springs, MI | typo... Typo in that the patent was awarded earlier this year (July) not earlier this week. | |
| | aj004
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| Intellectual Ventures bought up Patents and can countersue Intellectual Ventures bought up broadband networking patents which would make Cisco crawl so this is NOT AN ISSUE.
The CEO of IV and a key google executive were giving an interview with the New Yorker apparently in NYC. I was dying to go and just stop by. Was also thinking about Nikola Tesla because he frequented the area in the old days. Also thought about Quantum Gravity but thats a whole other issue.  | |
| tkdslr
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| Net2Phone has doing this for a decade. Via direct and SIP like connections.
For many years they've supported Web cameras(Video), VoIP(voice), file transfer(data), and blackboard all using a common IP protocol over a single network infrastructure.
Nothing new here.
Just another mindless patent,
issued by our clueless patent office. | |
| phantom6294
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| They patented TCP/IP!!! From the patent abstract:
A method for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises includes receiving television programming from a programming source, receiving data from a data network, and receiving telephone communications from a telephone network. The method further includes placing the television programming, data, and telephone communications in a common format for integrated communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol. In addition, the method includes communicating the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering. *Emphasis mine*
So... if someone uses TCP/IP to distribute video, voice, and data over the same network, they have violated the patent?
What an absolute load of absolute crap. | |
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| Re: They patented TCP/IP!!! Forget the abstract, it is the claim which says what is patented, in this case:
"...assigning customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected . . . , wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction."
I don't know what they mean by interdiction, so maybe someone here can explain it? | |
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| Re: They patented TCP/IP!!! SD6 one good turn deserves another...
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...assigning customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected . . . ,
Multicast domains are a method of assiging client's to subnetworks (which can be widely distribuited) and then broadcasting to the network address for each subnetwork that which you wish to distribute to all members of the subnetwork.
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wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction."
Interdiction is inserting something between a source and a destination which controls what is visible at the destination. In the military world, or law enforcement world, interdiction is akin to intercepting. One performs interdiction if they intercept a smuggler crossing a border and stop him.
In this case they must mean that there is some means in a router they produce which can turn on or off a data stream to a client inside that router.
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| I'm not infringing Your patent specifically states "System and method for providing integrated voice, video and data to customer premises over a single network.". Sure I'm providing voice, video, and data over a single network, but they are using clearly distinct and separate protocols. They even use separate chips to decode the data and separate hardware to interface. Nothing "integrated" here.
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| Re: I'm not infringing said by gatzdon :Your patent specifically states "System and method for providing integrated voice, video and data to customer premises over a single network.". Sure I'm providing voice, video, and data over a single network, but they are using clearly distinct and separate protocols. They even use separate chips to decode the data and separate hardware to interface. Nothing "integrated" here. Hmmm.. All those features existed in my old win98 laptop. (except for add on the USB camera). No special chips needed to integrate ALL those features into one unit.
M$ Netmeeting software was offered as a free download and integrated into Win98, circa 1998. whoopsey, that predates the patent filing by two years.
SALON | July 21, 1998
»archive.salon.com/21st/feature/1···re2.html
and
"The History of Internet Explorer"
»www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/com···fie.mspx
"Internet Explorer 3 was released in August 1996,...."
"Optional components included Internet Mail and News 1.0 (later called Outlook Express), NetMeeting,"
and
»www.meetingbywire.com/NetMeeting3.htm
"With the release of the NetMeeting 3.01( June 18,1999)"
"A cute feature that allows picture-in-picture viewing of the local video with the incoming video has been added." | |
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| Calm Down First of all, thanks once again BBR for your yellow journalism tactics when it comes to patent matters. I suppose it's good for you guys to rile up the masses.
Second, thanks also for those oh-so neutral reporting words of "any" System and method . . . 
If anyone had bothered to spend a minute or two looking at the claims, which are what define the invention, and not the title alone or BBR's silliness, you'd see that there are certain limitations built into the invention. That's not even taking into account the limitations that are in the file wrapper.
The words that finally were added to the claims to get the patent allowed included, "wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction."
Interdiction is discussed in the patent as given below:
"The information contained in service security server 198 may be used by the network to implement conditional access using two cooperative methods: interdiction and encryption. Interdiction is a technique where network devices, including but not limited to the metro POP and site POP switches/routers 112, 116, 126, 140, 170, 196, and/or 258, prevent routing of content to specific subscribers or regions based upon one or more access lists, geographic locations, or any other appropriate parameters. Interdiction techniques on the switches may include, but are not limited to, port access lists, multicast join prevention, multicast join to alternate source, and similar techniques applied to virtual local area networks (VLANs) as well as ports of devices. Encryption is a technique where video and audio streams are rendered unplayable by cryptographic techniques under the control of service security server 198. This content can only be rendered playable by cryptographic information distributed by service security server 198 to specific customer premises devices including, but not limited to, set-top boxes 34 and computers 32. Service security server 198 also controls access to other services including data and telephone services."
The question then is, is this interdiction limitation material to limiting the scope of the patent? If so, then everyone on BBR that's so concerned can breathe a sigh of relief. Otherwise, everyone can continue wringing their collective hands until the file wrapper is examined. | |
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| Re: Calm Down said by Goober :First of all, thanks once again BBR for your yellow journalism tactics when it comes to patent matters. I suppose it's good for you guys to rile up the masses. The yellow journalism that you accuse BBR of is misdirected...
The story here is simply a direct quote from the Light Reading article:
"Patent 7075919, awarded to Cisco earlier this year, states that Cisco is the proud owner of any "System and method for providing integrated voice, video and data to customer premises over a single network.""
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Goober
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| Re: Calm Down In a certain sense you are right. But, BBR constantly does this and should know better.
How many more times do we need to hear, "I've patented breathing," "I've patented walking, "I've patented eating," etc. In the past 6 years I've heard it way too much.
It's okay, it's a private site and they can do as they please. | |
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| Re: Calm Down You'll notice a lot of those jokes have died out since I patented "making stupid patent jokes" and refused rites to the internet community at large.
I'm off to litigate myself; wish me luck!
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| said by Goober :In a certain sense you are right. But, BBR constantly does this and should know better. Nyeh, true to an extent... But if this country's patent system wasn't so screwed up and if companies weren't so damned patent happy, the jokes and sensational stories would evaporate...
While this story maybe raising some eyebrows for some, they should be raising their eyebrows in disgust at the fact that the biotechs thought they could file patent claims on genes and DNA sequences... And apparently they've had those patents granted too...
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Goober
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| Re: Calm Down Yeah, true to an extent.
I guess I don't get too concerned because these things eventually work themselves out in court if needed. Bad patents just can't stand the scrutiny usually and will go down. Yes, there's expense involved in all that and the little guy sometimes ends up taking a beating.
I'm just not sure what the reasonably priced solution is and if it even exists. | |
| | SD6
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| said by Goober :everyone on BBR that's so concerned can breathe a sigh of relief. ah, finally a post from someone who is not ignorant about patents... | |
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Goober
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Naperville, IL | Re: Calm Down After 12-14 years in the biz, this kind of stuff is pretty automatic. | |
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| Re: Calm Down said by Goober :After 12-14 years in the biz, this kind of stuff is pretty automatic. "12-14 years" sounds like you were doing time in the state pen.
I'm in the business too and, yeah, the claims are what define the invention. Not the abstract.
The prosecution file history should be an interesting read. Wonder what tactics Cisco used to bamboozle the Examiner into issuing the Notice of Allowance.
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Goober
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Naperville, IL | Re: Calm Down 12 as a registered patent attorney and 2 years while clerking during law school.
Sometimes the practice of law feels like doing time in a state pen . . . | |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
·WOW Internet and C..
·Comcast
| said by mr weather :said by Goober :After 12-14 years in the biz, this kind of stuff is pretty automatic. "12-14 years" sounds like you were doing time in the state pen. I'm in the business too and, yeah, the claims are what define the invention. Not the abstract. The prosecution file history should be an interesting read. Wonder what tactics Cisco used to bamboozle the Examiner into issuing the Notice of Allowance. I think there's a lot of file history to read there. I started looking at it and then lost interest because I don't really care. | |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
| Cutting Cisco some slack Cisco and a few others can make the case for the patent. They have been combining different data streams in their routes for about decade. I will have to cut Cisco some slack. I bet Cisco is just responding to the out of control patent system where marauding patent companies of one mane and a team of legal leaches buy up patents and sue for billions for patent infringement. Cisco had to gab the patent before the patent pirates file the patent then sue Cisco and every communication company. | |
| SD6
join:2005-03-26
| GET IT RiGHT!!! Hey guys (and gals), before you go off on your tirade, it is the claim which says what is patented. The title and abstract, and misleading one sentence summary, obscure what can sometimes be legitimate technical improvements. In this case, read the patent and what is new is:
"...assigning customer premises to multicast domains to support conditional access of the customer premises to content that is selected . . . , wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction."
If someone wants to explain the technology meant by this language, then that would be helpful. I don't know what they mean by interdiction. | |
| | Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01
| Re: GET IT RiGHT!!! Interdiction = disallow
Thus, in laymen's:
"Using multicast (tcp/ip multicast? or just any multicast? it doesn't specifically specify, I'll assume TCP/IP multicast, from the context of the rest of the patent) to broadcast [video/audio/data], with access control to manage content viewable [eg. not subscribed, you don't get it]" This sounds very much like what verizon/att are doing with their IPTV. | |
| | TheKrell
join:2003-12-07
Fairfax, VA
| Re: interdiction The analog cable equivalent is having your cable company install filters on your cable to prevent the signal (for channels you don't pay for) from reaching your premises.
Speaking of analog equivalents, just what is it about the Cisco patent that isn't prima facie obvious? I still say the patent is frivolous and the PTO examiner completely out to luch.  | |
| amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| huh? I'm confused. But I don't feel like "cutting them slack" of any sort.
So now Cisco can say that the cableco's owe them now? I really don't get it. Seems like a silly patent. So what if they can pipe all this poop through their "tubes" based on TCP/IP and fancy routing...
Analog trumps all of this insanity. Viva Analog. | |
| | Headtalk
join:2001-08-17 | Re: huh? Joe sixpack thinks your talking about the redsox anyway who cares .... | |
| Driscollw
join:2003-01-11
Virginia Beach, VA | Patent date The patent shows it was filed in August of 2000 ? | |
| johnfc
join:2002-11-23
Gaithersburg, MD | A Golden Opportunity Sounds like a good time to invest. | |
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Another stupid patent
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