  Cheese Premium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL clubs: | So... If I had Verizon service, and got crappy reception at home, you are telling me Verizon would bring a rolling cell tower to my home to better my reception?
Bullshit.... | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Re: So... time to use their words against them.
Who on here has shitty cell service in their area that uses VZW? | |
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| Re: So... said by hottboiinnc :time to use their words against them. Who on here has shitty cell service in their area that uses VZW? ME! I DoDo! I DoDo! I DoDo!
I got no cell phone To ring in ma home I sits on my throne And gots no dial tone
Oh? Like HipHop lyrics are a better read.
Anyhoo. Where do I sign up?
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join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | It took years to get ATT and verizon to add new towers to allow 40k purdue students to get decent reception. On att in 2003 you would either roam to a competitors tower or get an att cell tower 40 miles away. | |
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| Of course not. I don't get any VZW service and nearly no AT&T service at my office which is 2 blocks away from interstate 5, in the commercial center of Tustin, CA. If they have no interest in service over 1000 commercial and residential accounts (about how many I estimate work and live in this dead zone), they don't give a shit about one normal person (you). | |
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| Re: So... Walnut and Franklin. No service VZW, barely any AT&T. You might get one bar out side or a few if you're on the roof. T-Mobile is fine though, so I can't really test the exact size of the dead zone with mine, but I've heard the whole area has problems. | |
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| said by tad2020 :Walnut and Franklin. That's over by the Level(3) facility, and I get fine VZW service over there.
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| Re: So... I'm on the other side of Walnut from L3, a few buildings east of the train tracks. The towers seem to all be over on the Market Place side of the freeway, I guess the signal doesn't fare will with all the large buildings around here. T-Mobile must have a tower nearer to here cause I get nearly full bars. | |
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| said by tad2020 :Of course not. I don't get any VZW service and nearly no AT&T service at my office which is 2 blocks away from interstate 5, in the commercial center of Tustin, CA. If they have no interest in service over 1000 commercial and residential accounts (about how many I estimate work and live in this dead zone), they don't give a shit about one normal person (you). The article said they'd give you a tower, and I'm sure they would...but at cost. | |
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After some phone tag, I found myself talking with someone that was trying to get me, to let them, install a tower on my property.
This is near some moderate population areas and a town. And everyones cell service is spotty at best, dropping out near where I live in this "dead spot".
Well, I didn't want that thing on my property, end of story. | |
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| said by ImNotSpecial :I live in an "known trouble area" and called Verizon tech service to ask about tower locations to help me point my outdoor antenna. After some phone tag, I found myself talking with someone that was trying to get me, to let them, install a tower on my property. This is near some moderate population areas and a town. And everyones cell service is spotty at best, dropping out near where I live in this "dead spot". Well, I didn't want that thing on my property, end of story. Hmm...you could have made some very nice money on that tower! | |
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| I agree, bullshit.
I feel like calling up and demanding my own tower right now too, considering I (daily) experience lost/dropped texts, occasionally upwards of an hour for text delivery, and the frustrations that come with that.
Why couldn't they give her a femtocell? Do they also not have internet? Crazy! -- "Some people never see the light till it shines thru bullet holes." -Bruce Cockburn
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join:2004-05-04 Maricopa, AZ
| I call bull too... While I can't complain about my service here in AZ with VZ wireless(it's been mostly excellent) If i were to call them and tell them to roll out a tower for better reception, I think they would laugh at me !!  Maybe I should try it and see what they say lol  | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Re: I call bull too... I would...
And tell them that they said it to the news media so they must do it . And when they laugh call up that reporter and tell them.
I'm sure VZ would love that. | |
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| Re: Perfectly reasonable response to needs of press; secret svc. said by GOLFnSUN :Complaints about this being unfair are childish. Even if the Secret Service hadn't requested this, the press corps would demand it as part of covering a presidential candidate. Verizon, AT&T, etc do as much for any special event and the presidential campaign is a special event. So, you as a lowly nobody wouldn't get the same treatment. Well, DUH!!! Run for president and you too can get this kind of coverage at a residence. And the Washington Post story is just a long ongoing editorial policy that is anti-Republican party. They should have asked their own political reporters if they supported this? The answer would have been an unequivocal yes. I usually agree with you, but I disagree here. We understand that as a Presidential candidate, having cell phone coverage is imperative, and for Verizon/AT&T/Sprint, whoever to take a mobile one out to them, or anywhere, is the right thing to do.
What we have a problem is that we're fucken (yes, the "F" word!) tired of the government and these corporations treating us like complete morons and think we'll believe their God damn lies about they would do it for us - that's bullshit.
Verizon, and AT&T, did it to get on the good side of McCain, just "in case" he wins - we get that. Just stop treating us like children. | |
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1 edit | said by GOLFnSUN :Complaints about this being unfair are childish. Even if the Secret Service hadn't requested this, the press corps would demand it as part of covering a presidential candidate. OK, but let them pay for it. Why should I, as a Verizon Wireless customer, have to pay for service for a millionaire who chose to live in the middle of nowhere? | |
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| Re: Perfectly reasonable response to needs of press; secret svc. God..., I hate to play devils advocate on a point being made, especially when I agree with you.
But.. to take your point to task - and to spur a conversation about this.. I say this..
I do not agree with funding ANYONE that chooses to live in a rural, under-served area. I am largely against the USF tax collected to pay to subsidize those that want to take the easy life out in the middle of nowhere. I also do not agree that anyone should be required to pay anything towards pushing broadband and cable out to rural America where the cost outweighs the recovery in monthly subscriptions.
So with that said, what I took exception to is the word "Millionaire" ... simply because I would have to, if I said this in my own words, say, "Why should I, as a Verizon Wireless customer, have to pay for service for **anyone** who chose to live in the middle of nowhere?" | |
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| He has 7 houses. Stay in one with service. No tears for him or his hag. As usual you only read enough to put together another bs response.Verizon said they would do the same for any of their customers. Take the blinders off. -- Spring at last | |
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join:2001-06-19 Duluth, GA | How many of McCain's houses did they do this for? Heck, how often is he at this specific house for this be to warranted at all? -- "Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp | |
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| said by GOLFnSUN :Complaints about this being unfair are childish. Even if the Secret Service hadn't requested this, the press corps would demand it as part of covering a presidential candidate. Verizon, AT&T, etc do as much for any special event and the presidential campaign is a special event. So, you as a lowly nobody wouldn't get the same treatment. Well, DUH!!! Run for president and you too can get this kind of coverage at a residence. And the Washington Post story is just a long ongoing editorial policy that is anti-Republican party. They should have asked their own political reporters if they supported this? The answer would have been an unequivocal yes. Would your thoughts on this be the same if the roles were reversed and it was Obama in the hot seat? | |
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| Re: Perfectly reasonable response to needs of press; secret svc. said by onebadmofo :said by GOLFnSUN :Complaints about this being unfair are childish. Even if the Secret Service hadn't requested this, the press corps would demand it as part of covering a presidential candidate. Verizon, AT&T, etc do as much for any special event and the presidential campaign is a special event. So, you as a lowly nobody wouldn't get the same treatment. Well, DUH!!! Run for president and you too can get this kind of coverage at a residence. And the Washington Post story is just a long ongoing editorial policy that is anti-Republican party. They should have asked their own political reporters if they supported this? The answer would have been an unequivocal yes. Would your thoughts on this be the same if the roles were reversed and it was Obama in the hot seat? Yes -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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| Re: Perfectly reasonable response to needs of press; secret svc. said by GOLFnSUN :said by onebadmofo :said by GOLFnSUN :Complaints about this being unfair are childish. Even if the Secret Service hadn't requested this, the press corps would demand it as part of covering a presidential candidate. Verizon, AT&T, etc do as much for any special event and the presidential campaign is a special event. So, you as a lowly nobody wouldn't get the same treatment. Well, DUH!!! Run for president and you too can get this kind of coverage at a residence. And the Washington Post story is just a long ongoing editorial policy that is anti-Republican party. They should have asked their own political reporters if they supported this? The answer would have been an unequivocal yes. Would your thoughts on this be the same if the roles were reversed and it was Obama in the hot seat? Yes LOL I call major bullshit on that answer. | |
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| Secure Communications The FEDS use ATT and Verizon SECURE handsets. That is why the COWS (cell on wheels) were probably setup. The COWS can use either a Satellite up/down link or a T1(s) dropped by the local telco.
Sprint does that here in South Carolina when the NASCAR race is at Darlington. Heck ESPN had a "special" power drop and T1(s) on a special pole back in the day.
This is not new..
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join:2004-01-12 Council Bluffs, IA
| Pork'd... However Porked or Pork'ed or Pork'd is spelled, this can just get attached to a federal spending bill and voila! Cell tower for the McCains. But wait, McCain is against Pork Barrel spending. Oh how you are wrong. See: The vote for the bailout with it loaded with pork. | |
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| To a point they would. I live in chicago and i have a very close friend who has Verizon. I always compare how my Tmobile phone has better reception and that Att is also better (i work for att so i like to bust him out when i can).
One day while i was at his apartment he called in to say he cannot get service where he lives in chicago. They told him "they would look into it..." 3 days later he got a letter in the mail a crew would look into it further. 2 weeks later there was a new cell tower on the church 2 blocks away from his house and he got another letter in the mail askin him if he was satisfied.
I dont like verizon. BUT i was impressed by this service. -- Opinion is just a word people hide behind to try and justify them believing stupid things. It sure is easy to believe in something completely and totally stupid, say it's your "Opinion" and then everyone has to respect it. | |
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| Re: To a point they would. I've had Nextel do the same thing for me as well.. but it was in a city proper neighborhood where there is a high concentration of users.
McCain, from what I gather, lives in the boondocks. I'm sure if you looked at the service map, he's probably either out side the coverage area, or in one of those areas where the disclaimer "service areas as shows is approximate" and he's outside the approximate area.
Two things:
1) by not improving his service, they could have thought that he'd take it as an issue and wund up supporting legislation to force providers to advance and expand their service - which would be costly to them.
2) by giving him service, he sees the provider in good light and go along his merry way thinking "these cellular providers would do this for anyone, so there is no issue" and give them a pass moving forward.
The problem is that they are giving him special favor to HOW they are going about this.. presidential candidate or not.
Again, for 200 years, elections were conducted with out cell phones, and for some of that time, there were no phones.
Honestly, a candidate doesn't need to be in as much "touch" as they appear to be. Being always connected is part of the science of being elected these days. All they need to do is tell the American people what they stand for and their plans and shut up... the people will decide. Being connected for every word being said so they can react and form some kind of reply to spin the issue is not something I really care about for them.
Elections, as it is anyway, have gotten WAY out of hand.
As AT&T the phone company once said.. pick up the phone and reach out.. reach out and touch someone.. which was done with a land line. | |
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| Re: To a point they would. said by KrK :said by fiberguy :McCain, from what I gather, lives in the boondocks. Which home? He's got 'em all over. I always talk according to the context and topic at hand.. so I'm speaking of the house in the middle of nowhere. | |
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join:2000-08-21 Glen Burnie, MD
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| said by fiberguy :2) by giving him service, he sees the provider in good light and go along his merry way thinking "these cellular providers would do this for anyone, so there is no issue" and give them a pass moving forward. This is the main reason I see they did this. Sort of like, "Look how attentive we are to our customers." That and being nice to the press people who spend who knows how much on cell phone service themselves.
said by fiberguy :As AT&T the phone company once said.. pick up the phone and reach out.. reach out and touch someone.. which was done with a land line. That was back in the day when long distance was expensive.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=brTfWyx3lXk
$10/hour long distance? | |
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| Just the cost of doing business Stuff like that goes on all the time. It would be stupid not to do it and make any senator angry. They have the power to make a company's situation a lot more difficult. When I used to work at a pizza place in a small college town, our boss made us drive miles way out of our delivery area to deliver pizza to the local university's president. He also got a big 75% discount, but everytime there was a football or basketball game the university ordered over 500 pizzas. When someone has clout they get favors, that's just life. I've done things for pretty girls that I would never do for an ugly chick, so have some of you. | |
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| Re: Just the cost of doing business said by soothsayer15 :Stuff like that goes on all the time. It doesn't make it right.
It would be stupid not to do it and make any senator angry. They have the power to make a company's situation a lot more difficult. That would be abuse of power to take a personal issue out on someone, or some company. Plain and simple.. they go to jail all the time for doing that.. or, lose seats when that kind of behavior comes to light.
When I used to work at a pizza place in a small college town, our boss made us drive miles way out of our delivery area to deliver pizza to the local university's president. He also got a big 75% discount, but everytime there was a football or basketball game the university ordered over 500 pizzas. This situation is not a "favor" per say.. it's good business. The university orders 500 pizzas.. as a business, that's a smart move. Government is the public troff. Besides, maybe your boss wasn't smart. For a 500 pizza order, I'd have given him a 100% discount for his alleged 500 pizza orders. (That must have been one hell of an oven you guys had to cook 500 pizzas in that short period of time.
When someone has clout they get favors, that's just life. I've done things for pretty girls that I would never do for an ugly chick, so have some of you. And again, how does an elected official compare to private industry? and personal matters? Does government do this all the time? Yes.. but it's not right... never has been. | |
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join:2004-03-25 Brooklyn, NY
| FEMTOCELL Geesh ... I thought I have seen it all, but the icing on the cake for me is the statement of "you can get this treatment aswell" ... Yeah OK !
Well like one other person briefly stated on this post, and I agree totally is to use them as your future femtocell test subjects. The whole idea of a femtocell deployment, is just this, you live in a rural area, that has fringe cell coverage, and with no ability, or cost-effectiveness to build a new tower. Also in regards to security the femtocell, has a private VPN persee back to your cell carrier, and if you really wanna be security anal just for the Mcains, same femtocell, and drop them a private T1 line backhaul for femtocell and call it a day ... I can hear ya now ! | |
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join:2003-05-19 San Luis Obispo, CA
| Hey Verizon... I(and others) want a few portable towers at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on 11/29/2008 please. This is when USC once again thumps big time Notre Dame football. And I want to be able to make a few phone calls while I'm there. There will be over 100,000 souls in attendance(97,000 in stadium, at least 10,000 outside enjoying the experience). Don't need NSA encryption, just basic service. Can you hear me now??!! | |
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join:2003-09-12 Tupelo, MS
| larger story I have no probs with Cindy getting her own tower. I consider this a reasonable thing to do under the circumstances.
The larger story here is, how many of those dang lobbyists are involved in all this. And how many of them are raising money and working for his campaign. I thought he said he was against lobbyists and all such.
If O. had voted against the immunity bill, all the right-wing hacks would be saying he was hindering the investigations of terrorists.
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| Whining, BS, and never the full story As always, a bunch of whiners who don't even research the full story. While they always had crappy cell coverage in their area, they never pursued or used influence to get special treatment. It was until McCain started his Presidential Campaign that the "SECRET SERVICE" requested improved cell coverage for safety and security issues. These concerns are considered for all candidates. Also, what most people don't know, is that Cindy "DONATED LAND" free of charge for Verizon to install a new tower. After much research, Verizon realized that a permanent tower on her property wouldn't be the most efficient means of their network. So, to address the IMMEDIATE security and safety needs of a presidential candidate, they installed a portable unit. ATT followed suit with a portable unit of their own. This is because Verizon's CDMA and ATT GSM networks aren't compatible, and this way any cell phone could operate in the area. Now, after the election and the needs are reduced, if verizon and ATT leave their portable units there, people can b*tch if they want. Until then, I suggest some people know what their talking about before they start their whining. I worked with the federal government during the 1988 campaign. (Unfortunately, I was providing support for Jessie Jackson). There are certain requirements that presidential candidates require. That's life. | |
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| Re: Whining, BS, and never the full story As one guy said earlier, they dont need cell phones. Candidates 50-100 yrs ago did just fine without them. We can all live without cell phones we just choose not to. If the need was that important, maybe they should have used satallite phones instead. Im pretty sure they have the money to cover the cost or they could just make taxpayers foot the bill(they bill us for everything else).
But thats just my opinion..If he can get VZW or ATT to put a twr wherever he needed it then more pwr to him.I may not like it or think its right but if I had that pwr I would do it to as would most people. | |
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2 edits | Bradley University I'm a student at Bradley University in Peoria. EVERY single provider but AT&T has perfect coverage on campus. Even outside, you'll be lucky to get 1 bar. More bars in more places my ass. Some students have resorted to buying their own amplifiers! Where's our mobile tower AT&T? -- Woot? | |
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