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story category Chattanooga Finally Getting Its Fiber
$200 million local investment offers 15,20,50 Mbps tiers
08:51AM Thursday Sep 10 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: competition · business · alternatives · municipal
For many years we've tracked Chattanooga, Tennessee's attempt to wire the entire city with fiber to the home using the local public utility, Electric Power Board (EPB). Back in 2007, the city council voted 8-0 to approve the $200 million project, and despite two failed attempts by cable industry lawyers, the plan is moving forward. The EFB is now offering somewhat pricey (at least when compared to municipal fiber in Lafayette) symmetrical tiers of 15 Mbps ($58), 20 Mbps ($70) and 50 Mbps ($175), in addition to phone and TV bundles. According to Business Tennessee, the now well-weathered debate over the project continues, though EFB continues to insist that 2,600 new jobs will be created in the Greater Chattanooga area as the project evolves.

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NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

Pricey?

20Mbps symmetrical for $70 is an insanely good value.
underscore

join:2004-04-20
Fairfax, VA

Re: Pricey?

That's a weird pricing scheme on their website, if you select basic phone service w/50mbit the total price goes down! Pretty decent bundling deals

Killa200
Premium
join:2005-12-02
Spring City, TN
compared to what is in this area, that pricing is still a steal, and more than likely will be for a while.... especially considering EPB's plans to cover their entire service area, which includes a lot of surrounding cities outside of Chattanooga.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Re: Pricey?

Not to far out of Chattanooga. If you don't get your power from EPB you will never see this service.
dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

Broke in 3...2...

Should we start a pool to bet on how long it takes before it's declared a failure, just like so many muni projects before it?

I pick April 12, 2011.

evChatter

@mitco.com

Re: Broke in 3...2...

your just jealous...

Miz
WTF?
Premium
join:2002-03-11
Miami, FL
clubs:
I hope it is not a failure and more places take up the idea.

Killa200
Premium
join:2005-12-02
Spring City, TN
I don't forsee this failing, as even if zero people use this new internet system, they still had planned on putting the fiber system in for meter reading and switch yard comm.

wifi4milez
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said by dynodb See Profile :

Should we start a pool to bet on how long it takes before it's declared a failure, just like so many muni projects before it?
Agreed. People dont care that they are getting 15/15 for $58. If another company (cable or telco) offers them a 768k 'Light" tier for $20 people wont even consider the fiber offering. The 'light' tiers offered by cable and telcos are the fastest growing offering in the industry today. I know it sounds blasphemous to the people who visit this site, but these days money talks and fiber is meaningless to most.
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mackey

join:2007-08-20

Re: Broke in 3...2...

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Agreed. People dont care that they are getting 15/15 for $58. If another company (cable or telco) offers them a 768k 'Light" tier for $20 people wont even consider the fiber offering. The 'light' tiers offered by cable and telcos are the fastest growing offering in the industry today. I know it sounds blasphemous to the people who visit this site, but these days money talks and fiber is meaningless to most.
And then they wonder why the US does so poorly in the worldwide broadband rankings...

/mackey
sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH

Really? Then explain why DSL providers have been hemorrhaging customers for years?

There's no doubt many people always choose the cheapest tier, which is why cable companies like Time Warner go to such extreme lengths to hide the fact that they have a "lite" tier, but there are many people who are willing to pay for a significantly faster service.

wifi4milez
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Re: Broke in 3...2...

said by sonicmerlin See Profile :

there are many people who are willing to pay for a significantly faster service.
Nope, people are actually cancelling their higher speed tiers so they can downgrade to the 'lite' tier. Its the economy friend, and nobody cares about DOCSIS 3.0, FIOS, or anything other than the bottom line.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Sooo where is that cost savings?

After you stick Comcast's BS marketing spin on things who do you think the average Joe is going to think is cheaper? Comcast will certainly play on the download speeds and put the upload speed disclaimer in the fine print.

50Mbs
EPB $175
Comcast $99
20Mbps
EPB $70
Comcast $53
15Mbps
EPB $58
Comcast $43
1Mbps
EPB FAIL
Comcast $25

Hope Slayer

@epbinternet.com

Re: Sooo where is that cost savings?

I'd pay twice as much for EPB's FttH more then what their charging for their packages based on two simple facts...

Local Customer/Tech Support and You won't be nickle and dime'd to death. Comcast makes you pay for installation, ect.

I've seen the service in action and it smokes Comcast.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
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Wish I could get that...

...though other posters are right in saying that this won't touch 80% of the current internet market.

I'd sign up for the 20 Mbps service in a heartbeat though. It's actually $10 per month more expensive than FiOS's 20/20 offer (through DSLExtreme) but it's still a good value when you compare to, say, 22/5 Comcast cable for $75.

What's funny is that, for the ILEC and the MSO, this service takes away their high-end market for which they have just upgraded to VDSL and DOCSIS 3. Guess it's time to upgrade again...
Mattie_B

join:2008-05-16

Re: Wish I could get that...

said by iansltx See Profile :

...though other posters are right in saying that this won't touch 80% of the current internet market.

I'd sign up for the 20 Mbps service in a heartbeat though. It's actually $10 per month more expensive than FiOS's 20/20 offer (through DSLExtreme) but it's still a good value when you compare to, say, 22/5 Comcast cable for $75.

What's funny is that, for the ILEC and the MSO, this service takes away their high-end market for which they have just upgraded to VDSL and DOCSIS 3. Guess it's time to upgrade again...
Your not the only one! I pay $60 a month for Verizon's Evdo at home because we have no other options. And that 60 buys me a bout 1Mbps down and 500Kps up.

It really does make me sick to pay so much for a service that is equivalent to something priced around $15-20 a month.
iansltx

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Re: Wish I could get that...

I see your plight and raise by one.

Sprint mobile broadband back home is the fastest, most reliable connection available. 1200x600 or so for $70 per month if you want unlimited. Verizon is capped and slower. No AT&T or T-Mobile 3G.

I'm reasonably happy, to say the least, that here in Colorado I can get DOCSIS 3. Prices could be lower and upload speeds could be higher, but I'm not going to complain too loudly because I know what it's like to be limited to wireless broadband.

huju

@comcast.net

Hope the best for them

Maybe they will focus on good service and try to improve it. Unlike all the other companies that want to leach as much as they can from their networks without upgrading. What is wrong with this country these days. Is it really that hard to invest in what you do?
joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

Price will come down

I think they're just being conservative because they know they are in a new business that they don't know much about. It'll be far easier to lower the prices in a few months or a year than it would be to raise them.

Once they get an idea of their actual costs they'll realize they don't need to charge but about half that much. (See similar offerings from »www.paxio.com -- a small private ISP in the S.F. Bay Area of California.)
trish2

join:2008-03-24
Laurens, SC

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Chattanooga-Finally-Getti

This is what I want to see happen in my area. The big telcos and big cable do not want to wire rural areas like ours.

rob_in_chatt
Premium
join:2004-09-17
Chattanooga, TN
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EPB fiber

although the reviews have been great, they are way behind in deployment of this service. probably 6 months to a year behind in some places.

what sucked about it was they used employees to run the initial beta testing, and declared that there was no need for anyone else to help test the service. there have been EPB employees getting everything free for close to 6 months now, probably closer to a year. most of those employees live within the main downtown infrastructure of this fiber optic monster.

from what i understand, this system will not only provice said services, but each household will be getting replacement power meters once the system is up and running. there will be no more meter readers poking around in the yards. the meters will send the reading back to the EPB home office, and they claim that by going that route, the power grid will become more stable as any power outage will instantly show up on the board.

this automation is already inuse with the water company. they went to the radio transmitters on all the water meters a year or so back. now, instead of having to walk in to each yard and finding the meter, all the meter reader does now is ride up the street at about 5 miles an hour while all the meters transmit a serial number and a reading to a laptop computer. that information is decoded and translated in to the bill. very efficient if you ask me.

when the EPB fiber is available to me, i am ditching comcast as soon as the fiber hits the house.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

market determines price..

apparently, the market determines price.. it what your willing to shell out... and word on the street and in the forums is for FTTP quality last mile consumers are WILLING to fork over the extra 25-50%... now if you'd stop doing that, maybe, just maybe the prices would only be a 3-5% premium... but this just makes the telos lazy at keeping the prices low.

there is no magic bullet to encouraging competition.. get the lowest price you can in these introdutory deals for 6mo / 1 year then switch back & forth, and when possible demand a lower price even with the deal or maybe a speed upgrade for the same price!
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