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Cablevision Launches Fixed Wireless Service in Florida
50 Mbps for $30 a Month in Florida
by Karl Bode Thursday 19-Jul-2012 tags: business · alternatives · bandwidth
In an interesting new twist, Cablevision has started promoting a new fixed wireless and phone service in parts of Florida they're calling "OMGFAST." The product is offering downstream speeds of up to 50 Mbps downstream for $30 a month through a Cablevision subsidiary. The Multichannel Video Data Distribution Service (MVDDS) technology Cablevision is using employs microwave transmitters that beam signals to subscriber rooftop antennas. This video posted earlier this year illustrates how the service works. Since Cablevision really hasn't talked much about this technology, it's not clear yet if they have broader market ambitions, or whether they hope to use their OMGFAST service to help counter Verizon's Home Fusion fixed wireless push. Cablevision paid $84.6 million for MVDDS spectrum in 45 markets back in 2005, and is lobbying the FCC for the ability to boost the power of MVDDS transmitters so they can be used for backhaul services.

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Funny name; but decent service

Yes, that is a funny name. But their product sounds pretty good:

»www.fiercewireless.com/story/cab···2-07-18?
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fixed wireless broadband Internet and telephone service in Florida called OMGFAST, charging subscribers $29.95 monthly for a 50 Mbps Internet connection

The new service is relying on Multichannel Video Data Distribution Service (MVDDS) spectrum, which can be used to deliver wireless video, voice and Internet services to subscribers with fixed wireless receivers.
»www.clearband.com/residential.html

Phone available for an additional $14.95/month and includes unlimited local and long distance (contiguous US Only).

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Re: Funny name; but different service

But you can't buy it for $29.95. It will cost over $40 per month ($55/month with phone):
said by the fine print :
Additional $10.00/month equipment fees and TAXes will apply.

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Re: Funny name; but different service

Well if the Internet access is all you want then you may be able to purchase your equipment outright and save on the monthly fees and taxes. However with the phone service included I can see that equipment being rented and forcible taxed to hell.

Just get magicjack / nettalk service for a flat fee yearly. Or if your a tech such as myself purchase an OBI110 and add google voice on it and cut out the middle man for your home phone service. Since I hardly use my home line its there only in case I need a back up now.

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Will be interesting... if they dont cap it!

I honestly would not mind 50 mbps down and 3 up on MVDDS as an option to rival my ATT dsl thats the only option available to my semi rural area in IL. To bad the majority of the spectrum is held by south .com aka: Dish network, and DTV Norwich aka: cablevision. This technology would be a great rival to traditional satellite Internet as well as Verizon fusion as long as they keep the price low and don't cap the heck out of it. Id be willing to go on a limb to say if they offered 25/1.5 mbps for $15-20 a month and promote it in an ATT dsl only market ( such as here) they would easily cherry pick all ATT dsl customers.

This is one spectrum that I highly believe should be a FCC test bed for "use it or loose it" licenses given its position to disrupt the non-existent free market and its only licensed in the USA.
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What about the upstream?

My understanding is that each television market has a MVDDS license that provides plenty of downstream (shared with DBS) spectrum but that the license doesn't include upstream spectrum.

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Re: What about the upstream?

Upstream from my understanding is on a different frequency and currently is limited to 3 mpbs upload... which IMHO is a hell of a lot better than ATT DSL and there 768K upload limit.
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Re: What about the upstream?

said by buddahbless:

Upstream from my understanding is on a different frequency and currently is limited to 3 mpbs upload... which IMHO is a hell of a lot better than ATT DSL and there 768K upload limit.

DSL in America has always been a joke. ADSL2+ would have provided millions of Americans with quality broadband.

This is just another private market failure, where the industry gets to 'self-regulate'. In other words, pick the most profitable customers only.

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Re: What about the upstream?

said by Telco:

DSL in America has always been a joke. ADSL2+ would have provided millions of Americans with quality broadband.

I agree ADSL2 would have been a better option too bad we could never get the likes of the ISP to install such a system nationwide yrs ago. Also now that fiber has come down in price it too would be a great competitor, but alas again getting any company (caugh... ATT) to build out wired lines is like trying to ride a dead horse in a derby.
So IMHO the only thing currently to look forward to is new advancements in wireless and new spectrum that can be used for such at a competitive cost (enter MVDDS) Until we can actually get some real fiber roll out (FTTH) were stuck with this customer disadvantage scenario.
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said by buddahbless:

Upstream from my understanding is on a different frequency and currently is limited to 3 mpbs upload...

There isn't a problem now but if MVDDS internet becomes popular the availability of suitable upstream frequencies could vary in different parts of the country. You're right that it could be better than at least some DSL and coming from towers should have a huge advantage (if not burdened by unreasonable caps or other stupidity) over satellite internet.
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Where does it say cablevision?

This is not a cablevision product. The website does not mention cablevision at all. The fixed wireless article is wrong.

One of the dolans invested in the company.
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Re: Where does it say cablevision?

Chuck Dolan controls 90% of the company and that's close enough to Cablevision that the New York City market area MVDDS license may have to be divested by 2014 according to the FCC.
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overlaps with Verizon?

So Cablevision may want a footprint in Florida?
Sure, why not... the government down there is at least as corruptable as the one in NY metro, perhaps moreso..

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Re: overlaps with Verizon?

said by tmc8080:

Sure, why not... the government down there is at least as corruptable as the one in NY metro, perhaps moreso..

Id say more so... they have been able to kill of high speed rail for over 2 decades since it was first introduced as an alternative means of transportation. ( on such a highly need stretch Orlando to Tampa)
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Re: overlaps with Verizon?

said by buddahbless:

said by tmc8080:

Sure, why not... the government down there is at least as corruptable as the one in NY metro, perhaps moreso..

Id say more so... they have been able to kill of high speed rail for over 2 decades since it was first introduced as an alternative means of transportation. ( on such a highly need stretch Orlando to Tampa)

The gulf states live and die (literally) by big oil corrupting state & local government. Just about nothing else matters.. don't expect hydrogen pumps, and electricity fast charging stations anytime soon. Qwest & CenturyTel would get 100% FTTP first..
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Re: overlaps with Verizon?

What a bunch of weenies. You have it exactly backwards. We don't build stupid railroads that lose boatloads of money like you do up North. The Feds pony up a few bucks to help build the thing and then the unions take over and the taxpayers end up footing the bill as the losses mount.

We actually have private railroads in the works. Railroads that will make a profit. This is a Republican state after all. We try not to burden the taxpayers with bad railroads run by corrupt organizations like the MTA when private companies can do a better job and actually make money on it.

Google FECI and check out All Aboard Florida. Capitalism at it's best.
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said by buddahbless:

on such a highly need stretch Orlando to Tampa

Put some giant mouse ears on the high speed rail line and odds are it will be built.
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Just a few cities in south florida.

I sent them an email and talked to a sales person.

They currently service just a few cities (western suburbs) in South Florida.

The lowest price is more like $40/mo minimum for residential, $70 for business, 1 year commitment.
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Lightsquared all over again

Well the downstream is in neighboring DBS bands and the upstream sits next to wifi, so now you dish of wifi access point become useless

Well with beamforming this will become less of an issue but the point is dig that fiber and this all goes away. Now you get rid of dish, free up tons of bandwidth, and fixed wireless. 1 GPON -> 1 housing unit. Imagine how cheap that would be. Then let all the pipemasters compete on the light. Watch prices drop, watch bundling go the way of the dodo bird.

They need to boost the power to get this to go any reasonable distance (10km) and that is where is gets shady like LS drowning out GPS signals. Granted its not spread spectrum but there will be bleed. This may just advance 5 Ghz until someone else comes along to stomp on that too...

If we would just keep wireless for mobile applications, backhaul and location (GPS) then there would be more than enough spectrum for everyone to play, even the TV and radio guys.
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Re: Lightsquared all over again

LS was aspecial case. just because a spectrum band is near another doesn't mean it'll interfere. I mean, geez, look at the PCS band...cellular providers sitting right next to each other, whatever shall we do?
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The Third Commandment

So they've decided to alienate the portion of their subscriber base that follows the ten commandments by the name they've chosen?

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Acronyms are in the eye of the beholder...

Object Management Group
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Re: The Third Commandment

I like "Oh My Gravy". It sounds quaint!
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I want this

But since it will likely never be deployed by CV anywhere I live, I'm curious about a few things:

1. What is CV using for transmit (from the CPE) frequencies here? I've seen that some MVDDS equipment uses 5.x GHz (unlicensed), but what do they use?
2. Who owns the MVDDS license in my area? Would be kinda cool to deploy a super fast (on the downlink anyway) network using the tech.
3. Where do I go to get MVDDS equipment?

Clearwire thinks it's hot stuff with bonded 20MHz TD-LTE channels in a few dozen MHz of spectrum around 25 GHz. MV-DDS can stomp all over that...500 MHz (which appears to be the width of the MV-DDS license) is well over half the bandwidth available in most terrestrial cable systems. Pair that with a spectrally efficient system (just because...might as well steward your spectrum well) like LTE-A and carrier-aggregate with an uplink somewhere else and you've got yourself a truly awesome fixed wireless system that can compete with...wait for it...FTTH.
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OMGFAST

just got mine today, bought in to all the hype and could not wait to try and run a speed test....unfortunately the service is out, and the customer service received AFTER you purchase this product is terrible...after waiting 20 minutes on hold I received "the service is down in your area and we don't know what the issue is, we don't know why it is out or when it will be available again, but we apologize for the inconvenience". I never got to even try the service. So, currently I have a large dish installed on my roof and a high speed modem inside my home with no connection. I guess it's a good thing I did not cancel my existing internet provider. So far I'm not impressed. It's been 13 hours and counting with no service.

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Trying to get this installed at mom's condo in Margate..."special offer"
They've already missed 2 install dates... I called after the window this morning expired... "Oh , sorry maybe we should have called you, the equipment didn't come in"...
Not a very promising start
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