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1 edit | sunday ticket should be included every cable and satelite channel should be avalable on every service. | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: sunday ticket should be included As long as the NFL gets their 130 billion cut. | |
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| gorehound
join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME | that is what i say to.no exclusive BS.and no internet cpas as well asshole corporations | |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by ajwees41  :every cable and satelite channel should be avalable on every service. NFL:ST exclusivity with DirecTV is a different matter. The exclusivity was just a negotiated term of the deal with the NFL that the NFL agreed to. Every cable, telco, and satellite provider had an opportunity to bid on the rights to Sunday Ticket. They just chose not to have the highest bid. It's not as if DirecTV bought the NFL and is only keeping it only to themselves. | |
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join:2003-11-18
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3 edits | Re: sunday ticket should be included Nevermind, not worth it. | |
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join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| said by ajwees41 :every cable and satelite channel should be avalable on every service. comcast had there chance at it and they passed | |
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koma3504
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| Damn straight they should because if it is not it forces one to have to use what ever service has the channels they want.
and this is not letting the end user choose the srvice they want. It is a monopoly.
and thats even if the service that has the channel is even available in the area one is in.
Just like nbc wheather plus channel 105 on charter cable.
You can only view that channel on charter CATV.
And that is a local channel etc.. that does nothing but show you the radar/wheather when there are storms.
that is defeantly One channel that anyone should be able to view regardless of the service they use.
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| ajwees41
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| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by TKJunkMail :If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket with exclusivity, then what Cable asks for is fair. I'd prefer no exclusive agreements, but it has to apply to all equally - cable, satellite, & telcos. You can't limit cable while letting DirecTV have exclusive deals. isn't that what I said already?  | |
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Omaha, NE | Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair the only thing I can see is the sports channels that the the area teams are shown on should be on the basic tier of cable or the tier of channels that include the local channels. | |
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| robjlevin
join:2002-10-30
Millington, NJ
| Totally unrelated. DirecTV was simply willing to pay more than anyone else for Sunday Ticket. They don't own anything except distribution rights. Your beef is more with the NFL than with DirecTV for selling it that way.
OTOH, Comcast (Vs, RSNs in several markets) and Cablevision (MSG) are using their ownership in the channels in anti competitive way by picking and choosing who they'll negotiate with.
Back in the 50s movie studios also owned many theaters and refused to sell the movies to competitors. Congress put an end to that in a hurry. | |
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·Cox HSI
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by robjlevin :Totally unrelated. DirecTV was simply willing to pay more than anyone else for Sunday Ticket. They don't own anything except distribution rights. Your beef is more with the NFL than with DirecTV for selling it that way. OTOH, Comcast (Vs, RSNs in several markets) and Cablevision (MSG) are using their ownership in the channels in anti competitive way by picking and choosing who they'll negotiate with. Back in the 50s movie studios also owned many theaters and refused to sell the movies to competitors. Congress put an end to that in a hurry. don't think so remember the MLB deal was going to shut out the Cable and other ondemand providers. | |
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join:2007-06-15
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair Like robjlevin said:
I think the NFL auctioning off the Sunday Ticket exclusively is dumb.
But there's a difference between paying for exclusive content from a third party in an otherwise fair manner. And refusing to provide content to competitors, simply because you own it and compete.
One is competition, the other is anti-competitive. | |
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join:2009-02-27
Staten Island, NY
| if Verizon wins this, its great for them, but then the FCC would have to reverse its decision it had when it rejected AT&T and COX San Diego , Channel 4 and also make DIRECTV carry CSN Philadelphia as well as Mid Atlantic Sports Network on Comcast. Go get em and close this stupid loophole , whats the point of competition , when one side wins and the other loses | |
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Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
1 edit | Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by Eat Me :While we're at it, how about requiring Verizon to share their fiber network like they're required to do for their copper network? Fair is fair. Telcos were required to share their fibercopper as a decent portion of it was subsidized at some point in time by the government. The recent fiber installations are privately funded so they don't carry the same open access requirements that the copper did. Any CLEC-like company is free (notwithstanding interference from the incumbant telco or cableco) to bury their own fiber just like Verizon or AT&T have done.
Edited to change fiber to copper. | |
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join:2002-09-25
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| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by cdru :said by Eat Me :While we're at it, how about requiring Verizon to share their fiber network like they're required to do for their copper network? Fair is fair. Telcos were required to share their fibercopper as a decent portion of it was subsidized at some point in time by the government. The recent fiber installations are privately funded so they don't carry the same open access requirements that the copper did. Any CLEC-like company is free (notwithstanding interference from the incumbant telco or cableco) to bury their own fiber just like Verizon or AT&T have done. Edited to change fiber to copper. The fiber buildout was built upon the backs of property owners, who were forced to give up easement rights for Verizon et al to run fiber.
If you think it's easy to run/bury fiber, think again. It's lots of red tape, and Verizon et al have a head start because of the taxpayer subsidized telephone industry.
Make no mistake, fiber deployment was funded by taxpayers, at the very least indirectly. They should share the network, no ifs ands or buts. | |
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Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by Eat Me :The fiber buildout was built upon the backs of property owners, who were forced to give up easement rights for Verizon et al to run fiber. Baloney. Property owners in most cases didn't give up anything as the fiber was ran in existing easements. A few might have given up a few square feet of their property for a pedestal or a cabinet, but it was in an easement to begin with so there was always an expectation that something could go there. If a homeowner expected that nothing ever would happen in a utility easement, that's there fault.
If you think it's easy to run/bury fiber, think again. It's lots of red tape, and Verizon et al have a head start because of the taxpayer subsidized telephone industry. I know it's not easy. I know it's expensive and labor intensive. But there are numerous instances where private companies have done it or municipalities too...something other then giant telcos.
Make no mistake, fiber deployment was funded by taxpayers, at the very least indirectly. They should share the network, no ifs ands or buts. Please point to evidence of where FiOS (or U-Verse) is directly or indirectly paid for by government funds that came from taxpayers. | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair quote:
But there are numerous instances where private companies have done it or municipalities too...something other then giant telcos.
But then you come here complaining about the ability for private corporations to compete with municipal projects.
As for taxpayers indirectly funding fiber layout, a significant chunk of Verizon's profits come from its wireless division. They happened to acquire the money they used to lay out their wireless network by swindling it from the government with false promises of a nationwide fiber network. | |
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Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by sonicmerlin :But then you come here complaining about the ability for private corporations to compete with municipal projects. I don't think I've ever posted a comment complaining about that. I have absolutely no problem with a municipal stepping in and providing a service that telcos or cable companies can't or won't provide as long as the business plan is economically viable and self supporting. I'm never in favor of having to pay more for water or garbage collection to subsidize my neighbor watch ESPN or checking his email across a 50mbit fiber connection.
Muni deployments such as Greenlight in Wilson, NC I have no problems with.
As for taxpayers indirectly funding fiber layout, a significant chunk of Verizon's profits come from its wireless division. They happened to acquire the money they used to lay out their wireless network by swindling it from the government with false promises of a nationwide fiber network. Again I'll repeat my request. Please point to one legitimate source that supports your claim that Verizon has swindled the government in some way to pay for FiOS. I'm not saying that they don't exist. And I'm not saying that there wasn't financial incentives in some markets for Verizon to build out in the form of tax incentives or other non-direct financial support. I'm just saying I have yet to see any evidence that shows anything other the legitimate business and government support between the two sides. | |
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join:2005-04-08
Howell, NJ
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| I'll agree to Verizon sharing their fiber when the cable companies are required to share their HFC network and the satellite companies have to share their satellite capacity.
You are comparing two totally different things. Furthermore, if you look at things the way you stated then the cable companies are even worse than Verizon, because not only are they witholding content, they ALSO DO NOT SHARE THEIR NETWORK. Moreover cable essentially uses the same rights of way and easements as Verizon as both companies typically hang their wires on the same poles and bury their lines on public property, etc.
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join:2009-08-11
Providence, RI
| said by Eat Me :said by billy2 :if Verizon wins this, its great for them, but then the FCC would have to reverse its decision it had when it rejected AT&T and COX San Diego , Channel 4 and also make DIRECTV carry CSN Philadelphia as well as Mid Atlantic Sports Network on Comcast. Go get em and close this stupid loophole , whats the point of competition , when one side wins and the other loses While we're at it, how about requiring Verizon to share their fiber network like they're required to do for their copper network? Fair is fair. they do share there fiber network maybe look around next time ass
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| I wonder if the cable/telco TV providers have the technical ability to provide something like NFL Sunday Ticket? It seems like it would be be a logistical nightmare for Verizon, at least. Trying to manage each local area would be more expensive and require more resources then a total US satellite coverage.
It's certainly easier to implement with satellite as the product is currently designed.
There is a distinct difference between not being able to watch the Chargers play when the Dolphins are on at the same time in Miami, and not being able to watch the Chargers in San Diego because you have a certain TV provider. These are drastically different situations, and they are really not comparable. | |
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join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by jmn1207 :I wonder if the cable/telco TV providers have the technical ability to provide something like NFL Sunday Ticket? It seems like it would be be a logistical nightmare for Verizon, at least. Trying to manage each local area would be more expensive and require more resources then a total US satellite coverage. It's certainly easier to implement with satellite as the product is currently designed. NOT at all - it's not any different than with MLB, & cable, DirecTV & FiOS all provide it with no problems.  | |
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join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by dishrich :said by jmn1207 :I wonder if the cable/telco TV providers have the technical ability to provide something like NFL Sunday Ticket? It seems like it would be be a logistical nightmare for Verizon, at least. Trying to manage each local area would be more expensive and require more resources then a total US satellite coverage. It's certainly easier to implement with satellite as the product is currently designed. NOT at all - it's not any different than with MLB, & cable, DirecTV & FiOS all provide it with no problems. MLB EL, NHL CI, NBA LP run at the same time and will you want to have ST with up 2 HD games a week? or maybe they can trun off TNT HD, USA HD, and more. | |
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| Re: If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair said by Joe12345678 :said by dishrich :said by jmn1207 :I wonder if the cable/telco TV providers have the technical ability to provide something like NFL Sunday Ticket? It seems like it would be be a logistical nightmare for Verizon, at least. Trying to manage each local area would be more expensive and require more resources then a total US satellite coverage. It's certainly easier to implement with satellite as the product is currently designed. NOT at all - it's not any different than with MLB, & cable, DirecTV & FiOS all provide it with no problems. MLB EL, NHL CI, NBA LP run at the same time and will you want to have ST with up 2 HD games a week? or maybe they can trun off TNT HD, USA HD, and more. they should since all it is is showing nfl games. | |
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Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| said by jmn1207 :I wonder if the cable/telco TV providers have the technical ability to provide something like NFL Sunday Ticket? It seems like it would be be a logistical nightmare for Verizon, at least. Trying to manage each local area would be more expensive and require more resources then a total US satellite coverage. It's certainly easier to implement with satellite as the product is currently designed. There is a distinct difference between not being able to watch the Chargers play when the Dolphins are on at the same time in Miami, and not being able to watch the Chargers in San Diego because you have a certain TV provider. These are drastically different situations, and they are really not comparable. even worse is at times if you do have the right provider the league can C-Block you with blackouts and the cable company cant do a thing about it. blackouts shold be illegal. or the cable companies should just put their foot down and point the dish at a different transponder and show the game to their subs.
i mean would it be illegal for a CA comcast(as an example) head end to point the dish and get say a midwest sat if TBS West had to blackout a baseball game in an area?
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join:2000-09-21
Philadelphia, PA
| said by TKJunkMail :If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket with exclusivity, then what Cable asks for is fair. I'd prefer no exclusive agreements, but it has to apply to all equally - cable, satellite, & telcos. You can't limit cable while letting DirecTV have exclusive deals. You are comparing apples and oranges.
NHL Sunday Ticket is awarded through a competitive process. If the cable companies sweeten their offer, they can get the programming.
Contrast that with Comcast's abuse of the terrestrial loophole in Philadelphia, where absolutely NO market/competitive forces are at work. Comcast OWNS the product (i.e. Philadelphia Flyers and Sixers), so it OBVIOUSLY also own the EXCLUSIVE rights to broadcast the games of those teams. This vertical monopoly effectively ELIMINATES PAY TV competition in the Philadelphia area. | |
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join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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| how does this work? Could it get to a situation where Cox has a channel that comcast doesnt and you can only get it on Cox? which would suck as you'd have to move to get it in most situations... or is this in like overlay areas where like Comcast and FiOS have competition to the same houses? | |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
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| Re: how does this work? said by neufuse :Could it get to a situation where Cox has a channel that comcast doesnt and you can only get it on Cox? which would suck as you'd have to move to get it in most situations... or is this in like overlay areas where like Comcast and FiOS have competition to the same houses? This could set a dangerous precedence. What if Disney merges with Comcast and decides to make all of their channels exclusive to Comcast customers in places where Comcast is available?
The consumers lose, even the Cablevision subscribers will ultimately lose. Exclusivity almost always leads to more expensive costs for the consumer, while the conglomerates benefit. | |
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join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| Re: how does this work? said by jmn1207 :said by neufuse :Could it get to a situation where Cox has a channel that comcast doesnt and you can only get it on Cox? which would suck as you'd have to move to get it in most situations... or is this in like overlay areas where like Comcast and FiOS have competition to the same houses? This could set a dangerous precedence. What if Disney merges with Comcast and decides to make all of their channels exclusive to Comcast customers in places where Comcast is available? there is NO WAY that ESPN WILL even be cable only maybe if the NFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA and others pull there games from it. But will be nice to dump the other disney crap. | |
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join:2009-06-26
Cedar Park, TX | yes...it very well could get to that situation. Be sure to thank the judges that throw you and all of us under the bus. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by neufuse :Could it get to a situation where Cox has a channel that comcast doesnt and you can only get it on Cox? which would suck as you'd have to move to get it in most situations... or is this in like overlay areas where like Comcast and FiOS have competition to the same houses? That's exactly the situation. I believe it's still the case, but at one time at least CSN Philly was only transmitted via microwave and fiber which allowed Comcast to prevent DBS providers from obtaining retransmission agreements. Another example is MSG HD that is withheld from some competing providers even though MSG SD is available. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: how does this work? gotta love that loop whole.
After all ATT uses it for their "private only" channels as well for customers. | |
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join:2009-06-26
Cedar Park, TX
1 edit | Already competitive my ass! "Would such a deal pass antitrust scrutiny, even absent the ownership cap? There is a good chance, say several antitrust lawyers. A major focus of antitrust law is whether a merger reduces competition in a way that could raise prices or otherwise hurt consumers. As cable operators generally don’t compete with one another, merging wouldn’t cut competition." ---WSJ »online.wsj.com/article/SB1252512···039.html
yeah....they're just so damn competitive....BS! Prices are already on the rise and consumers are already getting hurt, so eh...why not let them get screwed by one big company rather than a handful | |
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join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
1 edit | Re: Already competitive my ass! Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back! | |
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Callahan, FL | This I would imagine is strictly for sports programming. I can't imagine a content distributor wanting to cut the amount of eyeballs see their product.
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by JSRoman :I can't imagine a content distributor wanting to cut the amount of eyeballs see their product. Until Comcast tries to go after Time Warner, Viacom, or Disney and if it could grab one of them and keep all their content assets to themselves... | |
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Reading, PA
clubs: | What about CSN Philly? They better allow CSN Philly to be shown on DirecTV and Dish Network then. An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. | |
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join:2007-06-15
| Vert. Integ. w/o cond'ts is dangerous I've posted previously on how the 30% ownership cap (horizontal integration) was dumb in this specific market, and how (with conditions/rules) Comcast getting bigger, could actually bring more competition to the market.
But this is very different and very dangerous for competition in the market. Video distributors that own content (vertical integration) could withhold programming of content to competitors, particularly "must have" content like sports. Without such content, competitors would be at significant market disadvantage.
The FCC realized this and required video distributors to make available content on reasonable terms (similar to their terms/condition). The need for this hasn't change, if anything, it's needed more than ever. And the "terrestrial loophole" should be closed. I would hope the D.C. Court of Appeals sees this for what it is, a power grab to lock out competitors. | |
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join:2009-06-26
Cedar Park, TX | Re: Vert. Integ. w/o cond'ts is dangerous And by "conditions/rules" you mean regulation? This is what is needed today with or without mergers. | |
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join:2007-06-15
| Re: Vert. Integ. w/o cond'ts is dangerous said by Michael C :And by "conditions/rules" you mean regulation? This is what is needed today with or without mergers. I never meant to imply otherwise.
I'm simply pointing out that Comcast getting bigger is not necessarily bad for the market. Regulation in general, and specific merger conditions can ensure that.
But allowing them, or any other video distributor, to withhold content from competitors is very bad for the market. Less competition would be the certain outcome. | |
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | Re: It sounds silly- let competitors access your content.. BUT It is actually worse than that. Comcast and Cablevision have already tried to not offer content they own at any price. It would be best for consumers if content providers and the distribution of content were completely separate. | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| cable-tv fantasyland Unless they've been sticking their heads in the sand, this will not work, or stand. The HISTORICAL TREND is for content to be MORE available.. NOT LESS!!! Do you REALLY think that in the age of bittorrent and the broadband deployments we have today (in major metro areas) that companies will be able to become content-exclusive walled gardens? Sure, and the price they will pay in spades will be piracy. I don't give a rats ass if it's espn, nfl, hockey, ppv, or first run movies.. when you have an exclusivity deals and charge high prices.. you lose in the digital age. Jacking up prices for basic content is also going to force the hand of consumers to cancel their cable tv subscriptions as well. Not only that, but it's becoming easier and easier to transfer content from the computer to home theater systems throughout the home with high quality and without a cable-tv service provider. In 5 years, I can imagine a $500 box (about the price of these rip-off set-tops you rent for $5-30 a month) that acts as a home digital media server with 5 Terabytes of storage which takes the place of your cable-tv service and can grab OTA broadcasts as a DVR for playback. The (industry) attempts to get more blood from the stone consumers is putting cable tv mso's in cable-tv fantasy land. | |
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join:2000-10-24
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1 edit | Sunday ticket It makes sence for dtv to have the Sunday ticket over verizon or comcast. The reason being ALMOST anyone can get dtv, not everyone can get verizon, comcast or twc.
Amagine if sport bars couldn't get it because they don't have verizon. | |
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
1 edit | Sunday Ticket is different! The NFL is the content provider that owns Sunday Ticket and they are not are a content distributor. A content distributor that owns exclusive content that doesn't have to be shared is clearly using anti-competitive means to gain an advantage. | |
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N4BFR
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Smyrna, GA
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| Re: Sunday Ticket is different! said by Sammer : A content distributor that owns exclusive content that doesn't have to be shared is clearly using anti-competitive means to gain an advantage. Why? Are you saying that Verizon doesn't have enough money to build their own network and distribute exclusive content? Isn't business generally anti-competitive to begin with? Isn't Cablevision's ultimate plan to have more customers than FiOS? Why can't they differentiate with programming?
It seems most of the posts in this thread seem to imply there is a god given right to all programming, particularly sports. Next folks will demand McDonald's carry the Whopper because it's anti-competitive if they don't. | |
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join:2001-09-20
Las Cruces, NM
1 edit | Exclusive programming is too expensive As long as exclusive programming is a special tier not subsidized by people who don't want it -- I'd have no problem with it. I don't think that's the way it works though so I guess I'm against exclusive programming because it increases the overall cost for consumers who may not even want it.
Content is simply getting too expensive and consumers should have a better grasp on why their bills are going up every year. I'd love to know what percent of my bill was going for each channel. | |
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| Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | Re: When satellite was in its infancy... comcast is starting to do that crap with VS jack the satellite rate higher then cable. | |
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join:2000-10-24
Harrisburg, PA | I would not say satellite is kicking cables butt. I believe cable as a whole as a LOT more subscribers. | |
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Elf Wizard
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| last i checked cable hasnt ever asked for a bailout. and cable can still do one thing that satellite will never ever be able to do, provide internet services worth a damn.
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join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
1 edit | very fact fios 1 The very fact that VERIZON was able to start Fios 1 proves cablevisions argument.
Since Verizon has the rescources to start up a competitor channel since they couldnt get news12 proves that they dont need to get a competitors run channel. | |
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join:2002-10-30
Millington, NJ | Re: very fact fios 1 If Cablevision is willing to let VZ set up broadcasting facilities and show Ranger, Devil, Islanders, Knicks and Sabre games in HD, I'll give you that argument. | |
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join:2003-10-21
Edmonton, AB
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| It'll just chase more people away from TV. If they start doing exclusivity contracts with tv channels, so that no provider has all the channels someone ways.. its going to drive them away.
TV over the Internet is the future. Cut out the middle man. Give it another 5-10 years when theres enough bandwidth to handle lots of HD video, and you'll be able to watch whatever you want over the net, stream it over to the tv.
If cable keeps screwing people over, there just going to turn over to the internet. Kind of like how digital phones start replacing wired landlines. | |
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Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: It'll just chase more people away from TV. stations will get buried in exclusive contracts and then Content owners will go crying to big daddy government about P2P sharing of their media.
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I'm as big of a college football fan as there is, and as far as I'm concerned, CSS ain't worth putting up with cable, but I certainly wouldn't turn it down if it showed up on my Direct channel list... | |
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clubs: | Then I argue There are more innocent people than not, and as such all related laws should are also unnecessary! | |
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TheRogueX
join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO | Such a competative market!!! Where I am, I have ONE WHOLE CHOICE of television provider!
If I don't want Mediacom, I don't get to have cable television service! That's what you call HEALTHY COMPETITION. | |
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Cable Industry Fights For Exclusive Programming
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If DirecTV can lock up NFL Sunday Ticket; turnaround fair