  kapil The Kapil
join:2000-04-26 Chicago, IL
| They're right Competition is too stiff and the profits to be had too small or non-existent in residential/consumer VoIP.
Consumers want "unlimited" but don't want to pay for it.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited in the business world...it's all usage based. Much more money to be made.
Can't say I'm surprised. -- »www.VoIPTrunk.com | |
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 |  nitzan Premium,VIP join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| Re: They're right I disagree. There's plenty of profit to be made in the residential market. The problem for some companies is they expect to milk the customer dry a-la POTS and get away with it. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.
If you offer good service at a fair price - you'll have plenty of loyal customers, and fair profit.
If you expect residential users to pay you $30/month because POTS costs them more - sorry, but those kind of prices are reserved for the cable companies and Vonage. No company that doesn't advertise on TV has an excuse to charge these rates. Even Vonage has been struggling for years because their retention rate is so low - a customer gets sucked in by their TV ads, but ends up leaving for more affordable providers a few months later. -- Nitzan Kon, CEO Future Nine Corporation -- Compare VoIP Provider Rates | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: They're right What about the tech support costs of business vs residential? With residential you get customers who want hand holding and for your to remove viruses and malware over the phone magically. | |
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·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| Re: They're right said by patcat88 :What about the tech support costs of business vs residential? With residential you get customers who want hand holding and for your to remove viruses and malware over the phone magically. Business customers are 10x times worse. They expect you to bend over backwards to help them for free. Maybe the big corporations are willing to pay a lot for support - but small ones want residential prices and business support. IMHO. | |
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 |  AstroBoy
join:2008-08-08 Parkville, MD
| said by kapil :Competition is too stiff and the profits to be had too small or non-existent in residential/consumer VoIP. Consumers want "unlimited" but don't want to pay for it. There is no such thing as truly unlimited in the business world...it's all usage based. Much more money to be made. Can't say I'm surprised. Looks like a job for Magic Jack!  | |
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  grydlok
join:2004-01-06 Richmond, VA | Mixed emotions I just switched over to Phone Power and their service has been ok, but if you add a large amount of new subscribers now the problems will start. | |
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 travelguy
join:1999-09-03 Santa Fe, NM
| Unlimited means no limits I don't care how "nice" the company is, one of these days someone is going to force them to stop advertising unlimited plans that have limits. In this case, if you exceed 5000 outbound minutes per month, you are going to pay 2 cents a minute. No matter how unlikely that is on a residential plan, it isn't unlimited. | |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | How many Broadvox users? How many people did Broadvox have? It will be interesting to see the transition. | |
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 |  hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: How many Broadvox users? you won't find this out. The guy that was part of the Founding used to post on here but after the company launched and he got out his free PR he stopped posting on here. He used to be listed as the PR/Spokesperson but I haven't checked in a while. His name was Jeff something. | |
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join:2009-09-05
1 edit | Re: How many Broadvox users? said by ptrowski :Thanks for the info. Hopefully it will not mean a major disruption for the PP users. Why would it? PhonePower was founded by the same people who incorporated DSLExtreme. They have the background in the VoIp field that is sorely needed; not another hosting company that decided to tinker with something new, lol. Guess who took alot of the former CallVantage customers? | |
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·VOIPo
1 edit | said by hottboiinnc :you won't find this out. The guy that was part of the Founding used to post on here but after the company launched and he got out his free PR he stopped posting on here. He used to be listed as the PR/Spokesperson but I haven't checked in a while. His name was Jeff something. Yes I remember him - he would post and talk about how great the service was and then when a problem would crop up, he would plead the 5th.
He was an assclown if you ask me. He only stayed there a year. His profile is still here but he has not been seen in a long time. | |
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 |  nitzan Premium,VIP join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| said by ptrowski :How many people did Broadvox have? It will be interesting to see the transition. Judging by their traffic rankings, probably somewhere between a few hundreds to a few thousands. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Re: How many Broadvox users? You can't count all of that as retail. They also offer Wholesale/private label, as well as other products.
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| Re: How many Broadvox users? said by hottboiinnc :You can't count all of that as retail. They also offer Wholesale/private label, as well as other products. Hence the "from a few hundreds".  | |
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 Network Guy
join:2000-08-25 New York | Oh shit Nice of them to tell me.. Haven't received shit from Broadvox about this.
Hope service stays the same. If not I'm just getting rid of VoIP all together. I don't use the phone at home enough to justify keeping it. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | Re: Oh shit that's because they haven't said anything. Nothing is even on their website. | |
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 soccerguy
join:2004-06-28 Seattle, WA
| Inaccurate? I'm a Speakeasy residential DSL/VOIP customer and they haven't shoved us (well, me anyway) off on any other company. Service and support is still provided through Speakeasy.
The article you cite merely talks about Speakeasy focusing on new business customers. I did not see where it says they were dumping the residential side. | |
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 neftv
join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA
·Broadvox Direct
| what email? I got no such email yet. This is news to me of an actual company change and hardware change. I would have to disagree with the statement made in the previous post. "Consumers want "unlimited" but don't want to pay for it." Why should I pay for VOIP if it the reason for going to voip was to beat the pots line. Last time I had a pots line was min $23 and that was just to have the phone line no usage. It's probably a lot more now. I had BroadvoxDirect from the second round of sign ups they did few years back. I can say for the most part they been reliable to me. Not sure what Phone Power will be. I may end up shipping the new equipment back and canceling I don't know. But its not fair to say we don't want to pay for unlimited those of us that don't use the phone all that much . I don't like to get gouged either. I think paying 30 or 40 for unlimited like what Comcast and others are doing it just greed and equipment being paid for 100 times over. I think unlimited should not be any more than $20 (includes taxes and the illegal fees) and much lower pricing for less than unlimited and not go overboard with pay as you go option and if a company's business model can't support that then it's plain gouging. It's to bad BroadvoxDirect is dropping us. I wonder if Phone Power uses Broadvox as their carrier. | |
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join:2009-09-05
| Re: what email? said by neftv :I got no such email yet. This is news to me of an actual company change and hardware change. I would have to disagree with the statement made in the previous post. "Consumers want "unlimited" but don't want to pay for it." Why should I pay for VOIP if it the reason for going to voip was to beat the pots line. Last time I had a pots line was min $23 and that was just to have the phone line no usage. It's probably a lot more now. I had BroadvoxDirect from the second round of sign ups they did few years back. I can say for the most part they been reliable to me. Not sure what Phone Power will be. I may end up shipping the new equipment back and canceling I don't know. But its not fair to say we don't want to pay for unlimited those of us that don't use the phone all that much . I don't like to get gouged either. I think paying 30 or 40 for unlimited like what Comcast and others are doing it just greed and equipment being paid for 100 times over. I think unlimited should not be any more than $20 (includes taxes and the illegal fees) and much lower pricing for less than unlimited and not go overboard with pay as you go option and if a company's business model can't support that then it's plain gouging. It's to bad BroadvoxDirect is dropping us. I wonder if Phone Power uses Broadvox as their carrier. Hell No, they own and operate their own servers  | |
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  dcurrey Premium join:2004-06-29
·ViaTalk
| upgraded hardware Your service will be automatically moved to Phone Power on 9/15/2009/. You will receive new upgraded hardware several days prior to this date for use with your new Phone Power service.
Isn't it like 9/11/2009. Hope the old hardware works. | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA 1 edit | no sign of it So I know I didn't get the email. I just logged in the BroadvoxDirect Portal and you would think in the opening page right to the calendar of events they would post a significant event like this. | |
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  Jamie58
@optonline.net | VOIP I've been using ITPvoip for the last 3 years. I haven't had any problems. Works great. No problem porting my number over from Verizon. Good luck! | |
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join:2005-11-05 Hartford, CT
·NETPLEX
| Re: VOIP said by Jamie58 :
I've been using ITPvoip for the last 3 years. I haven't had any problems. Works great. No problem porting my number over from Verizon. Good luck! funny how their website doesn't mention too much about the company. Is ITPVOIP based out of new york? what is their history? | |
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join:2003-12-07 Fairfax, VA | Not a peep! No email here either. Just checked the BVX calendar. Yup; no notices. | |
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join:2007-12-29 Creston, WV | Re: Bad timing for an outage.... maybe upgrading? | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA
·Broadvox Direct
| Spam probably Someone probably got spam email to this happening and took it for real, as far I can tell I see no signs of them wanting to change my account and its the 15th. I remember about a year ago or less when I asked about what going to happen to the residential customers The rep said the not going to take new one but continue to service the existing ones. | |
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