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| Re: 5 Minutes Computer Education looked like Number Munchers. Best Learning Game EVER!
OH, Disney has been alerted. Expect the lawyers by your door within 5 minutes. They have a local branch in every town now . | |
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join:2007-05-16 Chicago, IL | Re: 5 Minutes Built in recess...... Great, now the kids can become more obese at an earlier age due to the lack of physical activity. Why does dodge ball hurt a childs self-esteem when it's played for real but played on a computer it is acceptable? | |
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| Re: 5 Minutes Haha, oh dodge ball. I substitute teach at my old high school and when I was coaching PE about a month ago, I tried to get a game of dodge ball, but was not allowed to due to some supposed injury that occurred. Instead, I had them play hand ball which to me seems quite a bit more violent!  | |
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| Re: 5 Minutes This is one of the reasons I got out of teaching. even back 20 years ago there where even then teachers who where to lazy to teach and they would sit their kids down in front of Apple II's and let the computer baby sit. I told them this was total crap which did not make them very happy -- Remember safe sex does not prevent crabs. | |
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| Re: 5 Minutes Those apples did nothing. We had them around the school oh what a big deal. Almost no teachers had an idea what to do with them and all I ever saw was a couple of very lame basic programs. Multiple guess questions and answers.
At the time I was learning programing in basic, pascal, etc. We used the schools data general with dumb terminals. Oh living on the edge in the early 80's. | |
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join:2002-09-03 San Antonio, TX | Hehe, speaking of Apples, I remember using "turtle" on them. Oh, the pointlessness of it all!
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join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | wasnt number munchers a trash 80 game? I know Oregon trail was. | |
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| Re: When I was in elementary school? said by NetFixer :Didn't have a computer when I was in elementary school... No computer here either. Learning aids were a number line or flash cards. Neither were really needed, math of any sort came naturally to me. When homework proved problematic, I turned to my teacher or mother or friends for help with a solution. There was no such thing as an instant answer.
In high school business classes a ten-key adding machine was the closest I came to using a computer. And when I finally went to college years after graduating high school, pencils, ledger paper, and an adding machine were the tools I used. I might add that I got the experience in the accounting field before I ever got the education.
A computer can be a wonderful adjunct to a childs' education, but the parents need to take a more active role as well. Some of my most cherished memories from my childhood are of my mother helping me with my homework. | |
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| Lets give Disney its due credit Here is the link to the Disney "Edutainment" site. »playhouse.go.com/v1/marketing/
It is a very nice flash based presentation. My daughter loves it. It offers everything Jump*Start has and more for a yearly fee.
If your cheap, you can use »www.starfall.com . It also is very good and very free (discrete ad support). | |
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| Has it made Kids smarter? There was no computer equipment in schools when I was a kid.
Are kids smarter with all this computer stuff available? Or does it make them lazy? -- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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| When I was in grade school ... When I was in grade school, a computer was something you heard about on Star Trek (TOS). No one actually owned one ...
Weren't their recent studies that showed that computers used for learning weren't truly effective? -- A team effort occurs when everybody does what I say. | |
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2 edits | Re: Word processor Plus, kids today will never know the sweet rush to the head that followed the turning over of a test paper and taking the first deep inhalation of that wonderful blue nirvana known as mimeograph ink...
Then again, we never had the unexpected pleasure caused by a test being inturuppted by a flood of porn pop-ups...  | |
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join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD | Re: Word processor And were so chaotic, disjointed and poorly assembled...akmost as if we weren't focused or something...  | |
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| said by Desdinova :Plus, kids today will never know the sweet rush to the head that followed the turning over of a test paper and taking the first deep inhalation of that wonderful blue nirvana known as mimeograph ink... Oh, Hell yes! Perhaps those ink-induced rushes were to blame for my being an underachiever...;) -- We were taking a vote when the ground came up and hit us. | |
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join:2002-01-28 Bluffton, SC | oh that sweet smell. They don't use ditto's anymore? Weren't they cheap to pump out a lot of copies? | |
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| When I was in elementary school in the 90s They had computers at the time but they cost an arm and leg. At school, they had Apple II's - the ones that had built in monitors and floppy drives, no CD-ROM drives wasn't available, my classes had to use the PCs for Oregon Trail, typing games, educational games, learning how to type letters, etc. The Internet wasn't wildly available until I got in the 6th grade, that's when I took keyboarding, learning how to use the Internet, and emailing a friend overseas. Other than that, for homework, my mom or the library would help me. When I got into high school, this was in 1997, I finally got a PC at home in summer '98 to help with homework a bit. But, my mom and the library still helped with homework. Now in college, I have to use the PC for my Computer Network Specialist courses and diploma, but I still have to read textbooks. | |
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| What are Computers? When I was in grade school through high school, if you had 10 fingers and 10 toes, then you had your adding machine. In high school, it was the slide rule. And the typewriter, and adding machine. (If you were lucky!)
What needs to be done today is to go back to good old days of mimeograph ink and model glue, paper and pencil, rulers and slide rules, and maybe even an adding machine to see how todays kids would fare with what we used back then.
However, I will concede that the computer does help in looking up those items we used to have look up in 10 year old Encyclopedia Brittanicas. And when we did, it was all out-dated information, not up to date as was wanted by the teachers.
To have kids sit in front of a computer to get an education is just wrong. They learn nothing except how to get fatter and more lazy with each passing day. -- PROUD TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF THE CRUNCHENSTEIN ASSOCIATION AND THE HOST OF CRUNCHENSTEIN #2 | |
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| Re: What are Computers? Thats not true. I am a network tech in a library and there is a lot of educational computer games that make learning alot more fun.
Blues Clues learning games, Dora the explorer learning games (hate them lol) , and a clifford learning game seem to be the ones the kids like the best.
So before spouting wrong info out please do some research. | |
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join:2006-01-31 Syracuse, NY | Re: Oregon Trail Yeah, I remember crowding around the one computer in the classroom to play it, lol... | |
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| Working as a tech for a school district, I've seen Oregon Trail. That stupid azz Jake always gets snakebit LOL.
When I was in school, it was all paper and pencil. I think my high school may have had a Commodore 64, but it was locked away where only the uber geeks could get near it.
There are a lot of educational software apps these days that are undoubtedly beneficial, but I agree that too much emphasis is placed on sitting in front of a monitor. -- We were taking a vote when the ground came up and hit us. | |
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join:2002-01-28 Bluffton, SC | Re: Oregon Trail What do you mean geek? I owned a Commodore 64 when I went to college. | |
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| said by Rob A :That was the game from my time back in elementary school, damn was that a fun game. co-sign | |
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1 edit | LOL Times change When I was in elementary school in late 80s, early 90s, we had those wonderful APPLE II monochrome computers. I remember the really cheesy games that came on it. Very basic to say the least. As I got older, stuff improved obviously. I remember playing Oregon trail in the 5th or 6th grade. From there computers definitely improved. Still, computers were out of reach cost wise for most. In 1996, a friend of mine got a computer (his parents bought him it) and it cost 3200 dollars if I recall. It was a 2 or 4 GB 166 mhz gateway with a cdrom. Top of the line back then. He was lucky. I didn't get a computer until dec '98. A nice 366 mhz box with a 4MB video card and 64 MB ram (HP). Heheh I used that computer until 2003 until I built this one. Now of days, technology is cheap and changes rapidly. Back then, it was slow going and cost a fortunte. Kids today definitely got an advantage over the 25-35 crowd. Anyone over 35 simply would not have had computers in any part of their school years. | |
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| Oregon Trail... i owned it on PC and we played it in elementary school on apple II's. yes, they were old when i used them. very old. i think we got yukon trail before i moved to middle school and my family bought amazon trail shortly after. nothing like spearing a fish to get you interested in the rain forest.
my youngest sister is still in elementary school (some 13 years separate us) and the PC has taken over a large portion of what my mother spent with my other siblings and i. she seems to be learning at the same pace we did only without my mother's help. maybe it's not the same without your mother, but with 6 kids, 3 in HS and 1 in elem school, and herself going back for a degree in history, she doesn't have the time to devote to her the way she devoted to us. in the end, my sister learns outside of school and at her own pace, and my mother has a little more time to devote elsewhere. -- Somnambulator - t3h 5133pw41k3r The Common Grounds | |
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| Re: Oregon Trail... Computers are definitely to everyone's advantage. They have opened up the world of communication and torn down the boundaries. Where as I use to go to the library to look up information, I can simply hop on the computer and look on the web. There is usually no need to sort through piles of books and catalog cards to find the material I need. Most likely, google or yahoo contain the answers.
However, there are downsides to the internet as well. Kids are often left in front of the computer. Now, it replaces the T.V. as the household babysitter. However, unlike the worries of parents in the 80's and 90s (you might see violence), the computer holds a lot more dangers. Children can gain access to information that isn't age appropriate. There are individuals who frequent places that don't have a kids best intent at heart. The list goes on.
Personally, I think that computer instruction should always be carefully monitored by the parent. After all, no parent would give their child a loaded gun and say have at it. Computers are no different. Hence, I can't say I agree with your 13 year old sister learning on her own. However, I do think computers have given children of this age access to a lot more information than I had in school (whether good or bad). In the end, if used appropriately, technology has great potential to revolutionize how kids today learn. | |
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| Re: Oregon Trail... she learns extra-curricular on her own, not use a PC :P she's 9 and is rarely allowed online without my mom or sibling in the room, even if theyre not paying much attn. she knows what sites to go to, what learning programs to play, and the dangers of sites like myspace. she does have AIM but my mom keeps a close eye on her buddylist and chat logs. shes got 2 sisters 16 and 15 which are the 2 closest to her, so she tries to mimic them the most.
as long as parents know the what's safe and what's potentially not, and keep an eye on their kids' activities, most children will be fine. it shouldnt be used as a baby-sitter replacement, but more like another sibling that doesnt talk or hit back. -- Somnambulator - t3h 5133pw41k3r The Common Grounds | |
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