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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: cable said by jchambers28:The way they look at it there in not very many customers that can get FIOS.
I'm pretty sure most of Brighthouse's customers in the Tampa area can also get FiOS. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: cable Tampa is a pretty large chunk of their total customer base. | |
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Give me correct billing, real customer service and let my internet just work...thats all ya need. VZ has knows nothing of those things only $$$ grab and how next to perform their next trick of near fraud and get away with it.
I have have RR Lightning and plenty of stuff running off hard wired and wireless. Believe me there are no contention issues with bandwidth. even when we had slower services. (were talking multiple gamers, netflix views, cellphones in use, netbooks and roku.)
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| rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
 ·Verizon FiOS
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| "Our network can deliver these speeds if we felt there was a residential market for it," insists Durkin.
I don't believe there's much need for 300 Mbps (yet) but c'mon... Verizon is sitting back laughing, while Brighthouse Florida is like the kid on the playground excluded from the game, who walks away saying, "I didn't want to play that stupid game anyway." | |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Bright House is right Unless you plan on providing everyone is your neighborhood or apartment complex with internet you don't need 300 Mbps. | |
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join:2003-07-28
Salt Lake City, UT | Re: Bright House is right said by BF69:Unless you plan on providing everyone is your neighborhood or apartment complex with internet you don't need 300 Mbps.
»en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Bill_···0K.2F1MB
By your flawed logic then 640kb RAM ought to be enough for anybody! Cause it is enough for me and therefore noone else will ever require any more than this!  | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Bright House is right said by somms:said by BF69:Unless you plan on providing everyone is your neighborhood or apartment complex with internet you don't need 300 Mbps.
» en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Bill_···0K.2F1MBBy your flawed logic then 640kb RAM ought to be enough for anybody! Cause it is enough for me and therefore noone else will ever require any more than this! Your point is stupid. Name me ONE site that allows you to use 300 Mbps? Netflix maxes out to 4800 kbps and since you can only have 6 devices that's a total of 28 Mbps. Ok let's add 6 more devices maxing out HBOGo and 6 more maxing out Spotify and it's 320 Kbps music streaming. Which is the highest music streaming you can get. Heck let's add a VoIP line constantly being used 24/7 And let add 3 XBOXes all on XBL 24/7. You're not even close to 100 Mbps. Sure in the FUTURE is it possible to need 300 Mbps? Sure. I'll worry about the future when it gets here. You'd have to be stupid for pay for 300 Mbps NOW when it maybe be 5, 10, 20 years before you can use it. Pay for it then.
Also I wasn't talking about ME and MY personal use I referring to people in general. | |
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| | |  Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: Bright House is right Give it time. Cable is going the way of the landline. Eventually, everything will go through the Internet. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Bright House is right if you take away cable- how do you plan on getting that wireline? after all FiOS is a cable medium- by it uses a "cable" to run.
And actually cable won't. FiOS takes HOURS to install where cable doesn't. Customers shop on time, and price, not fully speed. And not many people are signing up for FiOS as Karl and Phillip, along with others want to make it out to be. | |
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join:2007-09-25
Greensboro, NC
kudos:2 | Re: Bright House is right Have to say, I agree with you here. Not everyone needs this speed, sure make it available, but I definitely won't be paying that kind of money for something I don't need.
I live on a budget, and I have all the speed that I will ever need for recreational use. If I ever score a job where I can work remotely, then yea, I'll want all the extra upload I can get, but for right now I'm happy.
Not saying everyone should think this way, but seriously, at those price points for residential use, I wouldn't convert.
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join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ
·Comcast
| Re: Bright House is right A business can certainly use 300 mbps now. They could host their own website cheaper than paying someone to host it. It could support over 100 employees all videoconferencing at the same time.
My router can't do more than 20 mbps via wi-fi, and that's plenty fast enough. | |
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Salt Lake City, UT | said by 25139889:And actually cable won't. FiOS takes HOURS to install where cable doesn't. Customers shop on time, and price, not fully speed. And not many people are signing up for FiOS as Karl and Phillip, along with others want to make it out to be.
Not sure how shitty the FiOS installers are that it would take HOURS to install...
The contract installers who brought my socialist Fiber connection into my house had everything terminated, attached and working in well under an hour! 
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join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Bright House
| Re: Bright House is right said by somms:Not sure how sh***y the FiOS installers are that it would take HOURS to install...
The contract installers who brought my socialist Fiber connection into my house had everything terminated, attached and working in well under an hour! Depends. I've had several business FIOS installations done over the past month, and a couple of them took 2-3 hours. The bulk of the time is trenching in the fiber. One building even had existing conduit from a telco vault outside, but they had to bring the fiber from an access point about 100 yards away. No obstacles, just a long distance. They put in 2 fiber drops-- one lit, one dark-- so they wouldn't have to repeat the job if we added more services in the future. (Fiber is cheap, might as well over-build while the trench is open.) | |
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·Choice Cable TV
| said by Simba7:Give it time. Cable is going the way of the landline. Eventually, everything will go through the Internet.
I would rather say that cable TV will all be IP based in the future. Being through the Internet means an entirely different thing because your cable provider would be using their existing private network and their traffic does not need to go outside on the public Internet. That's pretty much how it works now except it is not IP based. | |
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If it can go above 100 it can do 1000. | |
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| | | | | The newsgroups buddy!! Remember the vast array of blu-ray movies from alt.binaries.bluray. | |
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| | | Anyone with a Usenet service subscription will probably disagree. A proper server will max out your connection no matter what you're on and downloading an HD TV ep in less than 30 seconds is quite awesome in my opinion. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Bright House is right said by Razr :Anyone with a Usenet service subscription will probably disagree. A proper server will max out your connection no matter what you're on and downloading an HD TV ep in less than 30 seconds is quite awesome in my opinion.
I'm talking about LEGAL uses. | |
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join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL
·Charter
| Re: Bright House is right said by BF69:said by Razr :Anyone with a Usenet service subscription will probably disagree. A proper server will max out your connection no matter what you're on and downloading an HD TV ep in less than 30 seconds is quite awesome in my opinion.
I'm talking about LEGAL uses. Ok... Downloading a Linux DVD in 30 seconds... | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Bright House is right said by nightshade74:said by BF69:said by Razr :Anyone with a Usenet service subscription will probably disagree. A proper server will max out your connection no matter what you're on and downloading an HD TV ep in less than 30 seconds is quite awesome in my opinion.
I'm talking about LEGAL uses. Ok... Downloading a Linux DVD in 30 seconds... because you need a Linux DVD in 30 seconds and on a daily basis. if illegal downloading is the only thing 300 Mbps is good for I say good more ISPs don't offer it. | |
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join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL Reviews:
·Charter
| said by BF69:because you need a Linux DVD in 30 seconds and on a daily basis. if illegal downloading is the only thing 300 Mbps is good for I say good more ISPs don't offer it.
Uncompressed HD is what 11GB / hour?
If we're going to get to the ability to stream
HD to multiple devices in a house... This
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| | | | | | | said by BF69:because you need a Linux DVD in 30 seconds and on a daily basis.
So you mean only legal stuff you would download.
Makes perfect sense. | |
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join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ Reviews:
·Comcast
| 10 years ago we thought 1 megabit per second was enough since compared to dialup, it was blazing fast. Websites were optimized for dialup back then, so they loaded very fast at 1mbps. Now, 1 megabit seems slow since web pages are much bigger. Comcast gives me 35 megabits per second according to a speedtest performed when connected via ethernet, but my wireless router can't pump out more than 20 mbps even when right next to the router. Still, even 20 mbps is really fast, and most webpages load instantly, even if they have a lot of video content.
10 years from now, I'm sure 10 mbps will be considered slow. Web videos will be full lossless 1080p, audio will be lossless, hard drive sizes will be a few hundred terabytes. TV networks will be forced to make deals with Internet distributors as people will migrate to subscription IPTV services that will provide HD channels from all over the world. There won't be a need for piracy as restrictions on legitimate content distribution will be lifted.
And you'll need a 300 megabit pipe to enjoy what the Internet has to offer, the price will come down to $50 a month, and you can also enjoy 300 megabits on your 7G smartphone. | |
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OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA | It is not just speed I switched from Comcast to FiOS when it became available with the idea of switching back and forth every few years. But, I have never gone back.
I have 35/35 on Verizon and regularly see speeds of 42/38. Verizon does not market this but a lot of people seem to get it. On Comcast they market PwerBoost that speeds up for a short time. You may even have to pay extra for it.
I have had a line monitor on my home network since I had DSL before Comcast. My FiOS speeds are rock steady while Comcast was all over the map.
I do not need 300/65 but I really appreciate the rock steady nature of FiOS. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: It is not just speed said by OwlSaver:I switched from Comcast to FiOS when it became available with the idea of switching back and forth every few years. But, I have never gone back.
I have 35/35 on Verizon and regularly see speeds of 42/38. Verizon does not market this but a lot of people seem to get it. On Comcast they market PwerBoost that speeds up for a short time. You may even have to pay extra for it.
I have had a line monitor on my home network since I had DSL before Comcast. My FiOS speeds are rock steady while Comcast was all over the map.
I do not need 300/65 but I really appreciate the rock steady nature of FiOS.
No one is even talking about FiOS quality of service. The article is about how 300 Mbps is simply not necessary at this point. Which even you admit is the case. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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·Comcast
| Re: It is not just speed The FiOS quality of service comes with the product, speed or no speed.
Also, funny how BHN didn't even address how FiOS's second-lowest tier is now faster than their fastest tier.
I don't care a ton about download speeds, but if I could get 150/65 for the price VZ sells it for, I'd do it. Or 50/25 for the price they sell it for, for that matter. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: It is not just speed said by iansltx:The FiOS quality of service comes with the product, speed or no speed. And that's not germane to the topic. But you're are proving my point. You can get excellent internet service from FiOS WITHOUT having to get their 300 Mbps tier. | |
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join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA | Re: It is not just speed I agree that it is not germane, but we seem to get fixated on a single dimension. In this case it is speed. In the past, there were blender buttons and camera pixels. A consumer needs to be educated so that they get value that is useful to them. | |
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join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | Re: In some ways he is right. said by 25139889:the thing is- will you actually see that fast of service from any single source? Chances are you won't.
Whether it's from one source or not is irrelevant. | |
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| brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | said by bgraham:Pay $45 a month and buy the friggin movie!
3 movies and you're already payed more than your Internet connection. | |
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Really??? Put your network where you mouth is and I guarantee you can't on both the upload and download consistently like Verizon does. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: He's full of shit Pretty sure BHN can't do 65 Mbps up. I don't care about 300M down (from a person who has played with gigabit symmetric at a university) but upload speeds are yummy goodness. | |
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| lag.. Brighthouse lags behind Comcast in their upgrades and it may not erode customers today.. but over time the deals at Verizon for these speeds will get better... and Brighthouse as well as other cable companies (hint, hint Cablevision) will have to blink and offer better speeds or lower prices.. guess which one they'll be more inclined to offer, if any.. | |
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join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Bright House
| Re: lag.. said by 25139889:BHN is behind others due to they resell RoadRunner. After all they were once TWC. No, I believe Brighthouse is a completely separate entity that bought certain chunks of territory from TWC.
From my perspective, service improved a bit when Brighthouse took over. YMMV. | |
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| | | | | Re: lag.. they didn't buy- TWC spun them off as they still own part of that company.
and BHN does get their service from RR- they use the RR National Help Desk and RR branded email addresses.
here ya go:
»brighthouse.com/corporate/shop/internet
The left hand side will say ROADRUNNER Internet.
By removing RR from their network would take more time and $$$ than BHN would wish to spend as well. Too far integrated and has been for too long. I'm just suprised that any MSO hasn't gone back to the @home era and just outsource the ISP completely- the same as Sprint did with Earthlink. Takes away total customer related problems - CSRs, Tech, etc. The Customer only deals with the ISP and not the telco provider. | |
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·ooma
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS
| said by 25139889:BHN is behind others due to they resell RoadRunner. After all they were once TWC.
I'm actually talking about the residential service.. Brighthouse is actually quite competitive with BUSINESS QOS grade FTTP and HFC Hybrid Fiber Coax based ultra high speed services compared with Verizon! Many companies are beginning to take the residential customer for granted again.. so be prepared for companies of all stripe to see lots more churn! | |
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| | We don't need 300Mbps broadband, yet. But I think anyone who isn't a n00b would go with Fios over Bright House any day of the week if they had the choice.
...and then there's Cable Caps. I'm sorry but Cable you lose. Remove the phony caps and you might actually have some meat to your words, but as of now it's not worth a grain of salt. | |
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join:2004-12-31
Longwood, FL | BHN Uploads speeds BHN download speeds are fine, but the ping fluctuation, jitter and overall low QOS need a lot of work.
Uploads speeds are also a major disappointment with bright house. | |
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lijacobs
join:2010-07-30
Lawrence, NY
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
1 edit | Marketing hype As of today 99.99 percent of FiOS users don't need more than 25/25 Mb/s speed and 99.999 percent don't need more than 35/35. However, many of the readers of DSLR are among the 00.01 and 00.001 percent who do. For the rest, these new speeds are pure marketing and a lame excuse for a rate increase. | |
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| rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Bright House
| Re: Marketing hype said by lijacobs:As of today 99.99 percent of FiOS users don't need more than 25/25 Mb/s speed and 99.999 percent don't need more than 35/35. Today.
But what about tomorrow?
I remember when a 1200 baud modem cost over a thousand bucks. Us poor college students had to make due on a 300 baud modem, to connect to the campus mainframe from our apartment to do our assignments so we didn't have to wait our turn (sometimes a 2+ hour wait) at the campus computer lab.
I remember people saying 9600 baud modems were a huge waste of money over 2400 baud. Then they said 28.8 dialup modems were a gimmick. Then they said the same thing about 56k modems.
My first real (non-Prodigy) ISP account was with a local provider that had a kiosk PC in their lobby and invited their subscribers to come in and experience surfing on "our full T-1"... and it was too fast to believe. Web pages appeared almost instantly.
My first DSL line at 768k/128k (for the low price of $65) was marketed as a blisteringly fast always-on connection.
And 10 Mbps. Not so very long ago that was LAN speed, and nobody but the largest commercial customers could afford a WAN link that fast.
Then FIOS gave us 20/5. Imagine, a full 5 Mbps upstream.
Now we're turning our noses up at 25/25, and 150 Mbps downstream is less than $100.
Years ago I said Gig-E to the home was going to be commonplace by 2020. So far that prediction is looking good. | |
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join:2003-07-28
Salt Lake City, UT | Re: Marketing hype said by rebus9:said by lijacobs:As of today 99.99 percent of FiOS users don't need more than 25/25 Mb/s speed and 99.999 percent don't need more than 35/35. Today. But what about tomorrow? I remember when a 1200 baud modem cost over a thousand bucks. Us poor college students had to make due on a 300 baud modem, to connect to the campus mainframe from our apartment to do our assignments so we didn't have to wait our turn (sometimes a 2+ hour wait) at the campus computer lab. I remember people saying 9600 baud modems were a huge waste of money over 2400 baud. Then they said 28.8 dialup modems were a gimmick. Then they said the same thing about 56k modems. My first real (non-Prodigy) ISP account was with a local provider that had a kiosk PC in their lobby and invited their subscribers to come in and experience surfing on "our full T-1"... and it was too fast to believe. Web pages appeared almost instantly. My first DSL line at 768k/128k (for the low price of $65) was marketed as a blisteringly fast always-on connection. And 10 Mbps. Not so very long ago that was LAN speed, and nobody but the largest commercial customers could afford a WAN link that fast. Then FIOS gave us 20/5. Imagine, a full 5 Mbps upstream. Now we're turning our noses up at 25/25, and 150 Mbps downstream is less than $100. Years ago I said Gig-E to the home was going to be commonplace by 2020. So far that prediction is looking good. Good points! 1Gbps just became avail in my neighboorhood. At this point, 100Mbps is much more practical and cheaper thru my ISP at $45/month. Maybe later this year when Google's 1Gbps launches the price for full 1Gbps symmetrical FTTH service may drop or one can only hope!  | |
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join:2010-07-30
Lawrence, NY
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| All of your history not withstanding, IMHO it will be at least a few years before the vast majority of users will need the higher speeds. In the meantime at contract renewal time costs will go up and now VZ has bragging rights in their Ads. It's all marketing and money. | |
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join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Bright House
| Re: Marketing hype said by lijacobs:All of your history not withstanding, IMHO it will be at least a few years before the vast majority of users will need the higher speeds. In the meantime at contract renewal time costs will go up and now VZ has bragging rights in their Ads. It's all marketing and money.
With streaming video and next generation HD on the way, video calls, enhanced gaming experiences, etc., and everyone in the house using it simultaneously, it won't be long before 25-50 Mbps is considered low-end, and 50-100 Mbps considered mid-range.
Not so long ago I posted in one of the DSL forums that I temporarily switched my PC off my FIOS line and onto my backup 10/1 Road Runner connection, but forgot to switch it back. I didn't even notice until I went to upload something for $DAYJOB and banged my head into the 1 Mbps upload ceiling. The moral of that story was I didn't notice I was on 10 Mbps down instead of 25 Mbps.
Well, that's changed recently. With websites and other content becoming more byte-heavy, the 10 Mbps connection feels sluggish to me now. The 25 Mbps I get with FIOS is the minimum I would even consider now as my everyday speed. I expect that as content continues to get "heavier", I'll start grumbling about the slowness of 25 Mbps and will pony up for the 50 or 75 Mbps tier. | |
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| my 2 cents IMHO...I think the more correct statement would be that most people do not see a need for that much speed at the ridiculously high price that comes with it. Data pricing is becoming a joke in the U.S. and the kicker is that these big ISP have conned the average consumer into being their biggest supporters. | |
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| | And Verizon Says ...that you really don't need all those HD channels. Compare BrightHouse's lineup in Central Florida compared to FiOS.
And BrightHouse is cap-free, and has no intention of switching. Verizon has mentioned flirting with UBB as a cash grab on FiOS, and considering what they did with wireless, I wouldn't be surprised to see them enact the most punitive caps of anyone, even though we all know there's no limitations with the FiOS market.
Considering that until a few weeks ago in many markets the fastest speed that could be bundled was 35/35, BrightHouse was already winning the speed race in their markets for most users. Upload speed is nice, but it's just not that important to most users. | |
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·EPB Fiber Optics
| .. I would assume people are perfectly able to decide what they do and do not need. Our lives are full of things we don't need but choose to have. Most automobiles don't need to go over a certain speed to be able to haul XX tons but it's nice to have it on the occasion that we can use it. | |
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join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI | Somewhere... Somewhere ispgeek is doing damage control... | |
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·Bright House
| Blowing out of proportion I don't recall seeing in Joe Durkin's comment that it will never be needed, he said that there isn't a market for it right now therefore they don't offer it. Its safe to say that docsis 3 with bonded up and downstream can do quite a bit more than the 40/5 that is offered now so to say their network cant do any more is kind of retarded.
You guys are arguing about the future of internet needs yet he mentioned nothing of the future other than that the network CAN handle more than whats currently offered (which we all know is true thanks to docsis 3) | |
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| rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Bright House
| Re: Blowing out of proportion said by tim tim tim:I don't recall seeing in Joe Durkin's comment that it will never be needed, he said that there isn't a market for it right now therefore they don't offer it. More accurately, I think there isn't a large market for it. But VZ proved there was interest, given they have real paying subscribers on their "old" 150/35 plan.
One other thing I'll point out is the "old" 150/35 plan was around $200. As of this week, 150/65 is around $95. IMO, you're going to see some pretty serious uptake of that plan over the next few months.
said by tim tim tim:Its safe to say that docsis 3 with bonded up and downstream can do quite a bit more than the 40/5 that is offered now so to say their network cant do any more is kind of retarded. Surely it can. But (defending only my own quote) even with DOCSIS 3, there is only so far cable can go with current technology. They can't subscribe their local plant to the level VZ can on fiber. Not saying AT ALL that Brighthouse is bad... merely saying there are technical limits to what can be done with HFC. By the time we get beyond DOCSIS 3, fiber will be that much further ahead.
Customer support with BHN (at least in the Tampa market) is superb-- something Verizon can't even come close to matching. That's a big selling point. But purely from a bits-on-the-wire standpoint, BHN will always be chasing fiber's tail.
said by tim tim tim:You guys are arguing about the future of internet needs yet he mentioned nothing of the future other than that the network CAN handle more than whats currently offered (which we all know is true thanks to docsis 3) Then as others have asked, why don't they at least OFFER something faster? Does it really cost THAT much to add another modem config option to the provisioning system, and another tier into the billing system? Even if only to save face when your competition's top tier is now 7.5 times faster than your top tier?
Don't think Verizon isn't going to milk that for every last drop of marketing advantage. Brighthouse HAS to fight back with something less lame than "we could compete, but we don't think anybody wants it". | |
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·Comcast
·Verizon FiOS
·MSN
| This is about bragging rights... This is about "my Internet is faster then your Internet"! Right now I have Comcast 25/4 Internet, which is plenty fast for anything I need to do. Besides, the limiting factor in my experience is the other end of the connection, not my end.
If/When I need 300 mbps (and the attendant cost), I'll buy it. Until then I'm quite happy paying $34.95 a month for what I have. | |
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| | BHN - FiOS I got the VOIP/TV/Inernet from Bright House and I do like their overall customer service quality even thought some of the freelance techs they send out are complete morons at times.
On the internet end we do have FiOS available, in fact my neighbor across the street has it. Definitely no comparison latency wise. Very fast; however he did have those famous "ghost fees" and billing issues after the install. The TV picture quality is definitely worse though.
I would be happy if Bright house at least upped their "normal" tier to 20/5. I do not NEED 300Mbps even thought I would like an option being there, but I would not mind symmetrical speeds around 50Mbps or so for the same cost as FiOS equivalent- this would keep me with them.
I really am debating on switching internet to Verizon, but I will probably lose BH VOIP phone if I do this though. | |
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| | | Re: Just like Verizon was.. wow, there such Liars ! LOL | |
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