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ISPs in Europe are a little friendlier than in North America ... or are they?
01:14PM Saturday Mar 29 2008 by KathrynV
tags: legal · Fileswapping · business · world · Comcast · Bell Sympatico
There has been a lot of interest in BitTorrent use and throttling in recent weeks. Major United States and Canadian ISPs (ahem … Comcast, Bell Canada) are being closely watched by consumers interested in stopping their throttling practices. However, this issue isn’t limited to North America. TorrentFreak, which reports on BitTorrent issues from around the world, has had four reports in the past two days of news from four different countries.

One of the biggest BitTorrent sites that is battling the ISPs right now is, of course, The Pirate Bay. An ISP in Denmark was legally forced to shut down access to the tracker but Swedish ISPs are refusing to do the same. They are using the argument that blocking the tracker would amount to wiretapping of their customer’s online activity which is, of course, illegal.

Major businesses and organizations, however, have a vested interested in preventing file-sharing and are active around the globe in trying to prevent it. One such effort can be seen in Norway where a lawyer for the MPAA has asked ISPs to send a letter to file-sharing customers threatening to disconnect their service. The ISPs have so far refused to do so.

While these cases indicate that ISPs in Europe are more helpful to BitTorrent users than ISPs in North America, there are other cases which suggest that the case might not be so clear cut. For example, a BitTorrent issue in Iceland was simply dismissed by the court rather than being decided in favor of either party. And the British equivalent of RIAA, BPI, is reportedly planning to clamp down on BitTorrent use in the UK.

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TK Junk Mail
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And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

... due to the costs of fighting in a US court.

»TorrentSpy Calls It Quits

It has been slow, but it looks like the authorities around the world are building momentum up to close down the illegal operations.
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LeftOfSanity

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Re: And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

... due to the costs of fighting in a US court.

»TorrentSpy Calls It Quits

It has been slow, but it looks like the authorities around the world are building momentum up to close down the illegal operations.
Yea..it all became too "in your face" thanks to Napster and Bittorrent. I blame them.

Thanks.

woody7
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Yea right
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guhuna
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When are you going to realize BT and torrent sites are never going to leave?

ureihcim
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Re: And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

Don't tell him about BBS either or he might just have a heart attack.
TheMG

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Edmonton, AB
Close down one bittorrent site, and out of the ashes will rise another 10.

They are fighting a losing battle.

a333
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Re: And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

well said, like a true son of freedom, er netdom.

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They are doomed to play Whack A Mole

When will they (the MAFIAA) ever learn? Fighting online piracy
as they call filesharing, will never succeed. Knock down one
site or program and three or more others rise up to take their
places.

They really should be spending their money and enforcement
efforts on stopping physical piracy for profit. This hurts
them a whole lot more than filesharing does. And it is this
kind of piracy that funds terrorism and organized crime, and
involves more than music, movies and TV shows, and software.
Practically anything can and does get counterfeited.
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patcat88

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Re: And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

There are many solutions to this problem. P2P is easy to eliminate. Fracture the internet by country or by legal jurisdiction (EU would be 1 internet, USA would be another (I dont think its friendly with Canada at the moment), some islamic middle east countries may join together). Then once the internet is under many jurisdictions, 1 country has legal power over all content on the internet, and there is no worry about websites in other countries following other rules. Also it can be made to get a license to "host" a website, or to get open ports.
TheMG

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Re: And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

So you're basically suggesting the only way to get rid of P2P is to scrap the whole internet and turn it into a regulated and licensed medium?

True, but that's never going to happen, so P2P is never going to disappear.
patcat88

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Re: And don't forget TorrentSpy just closed up shop ...

Yep.

It can happen. Very easy to order all links to outside world cut, otherwise the CEO of the national telco gets the axe (literally). Burma did it.

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March 29th, @02:51PM

Uh huh sure, whatever you say. Still doesn't make it true. After all that is one out of gods know how many tracker sites are out there, known and not known.

Besides, just because TorrentSpy didn't choose to fight doesn't mean there will be one that will, and what happens when that one wins? Which odds are is a strong possibility.
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said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

It has been slow, but it looks like the authorities around the world are building momentum up to close down the illegal operations.
Oh yeah...because that's going so well for the **AAs in the U.S. Only a matter of time now before all "illegal" downloading is stopped permanently.

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March 29th, @10:17PM

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

... due to the costs of fighting in a US court.

»TorrentSpy Calls It Quits

It has been slow, but it looks like the authorities around the world are building momentum up to close down the illegal operations.

LOL

Are you new to the BT world?

Have you heard of the Hydra concept?? They close one and 5 more appears. It's been going on since Oink closed down, In a few weeks you will hear that a "new" site just open, guess who will be behind it??? Yes you got it mods or admins from torrentspy What a beautiful concept, it never dies.

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March 29th, @03:57PM

Do You Hear That....

All of these battles over P2P is the last dying gasp of an industry that is desperately trying to cling to its outmoded, outdated obsolete mode of delivery. Any other industry throughout the ages has had to adapt in order to survive, but the entertainment industry via its bought and paid for Congre$$ional criminals believes itself to be above having to adapt. They just continue to throw money at the problem and digging themselves into an even deeper hole with consumers. Note: When Congre$$ has higher approval ratings than either you or your organization, the writing is on the wall.
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Re: Do You Hear That....

said by major marco See Profile :

When Congre$$ has higher approval ratings than either you or your organization, the writing is on the wall.
Thanks for helping me put the dismal performance of Washington in perspective. I needed that!
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said by major marco See Profile :

All of these battles over P2P is the last dying gasp of an industry that is desperately trying to cling to its outmoded, outdated obsolete mode of delivery.
Well how else do you expect them to make money? Are they supposed to be charities giving away content for free? If P2P continues to take over the world, content producers will get a Internet Tax applied, since there will be no other income.

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Re: Do You Hear That....

said by patcat88 See Profile :

Well how else do you expect them to make money? Are they supposed to be charities giving away content for free?
woa, you got it all figured out??? there are other ways to make money. maybe not for the companies that press cds but certainly for the artists.

said by patcat88 See Profile :

If P2P continues to take over the world, content producers will get a Internet Tax applied, since there will be no other income.
you sound like the record company heads who simply throw up their hands* and say well, we cant figure out another way to make money so there must not be a way. no other outcome? really, there is only one??? like a highlander?
*http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071127/011720.shtml

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March 29th, @09:39PM

Illegal indeed

I use bit-torrent to receive British TV documentaries such as Time Team, and The Sky At Night. Channel4 has no problem with New episodes of Time Team getting posted on Bit-Torrent They have made very few episodes available on DVD, and when they do the site I down load them as part of the informal deal they have with Time Team's production company when all or part of an episode of Time Team is made available on DVD any episode featured on this DVD is removed. Same goes for BBC's long running astronomy series "The Sky at Night". So many excellent factual programs never make it state side for whatever reason. The best example I can think of is Channel4's excellent "The Great Global Warming Swindle". I have yet to be shown state side. It is a devastating documentary of how we are being lied to about man caused global warming and how ALGore is so full of sh*t his eyes are brown. Could it be History Channel, or the Discovery Channels will not show it because they don't want to step on the toes of the great inventor of the Internet.
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Re: Illegal indeed

Seems that taking a slice of a topic and then veering it way off topic is becoming the norm as of late.

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wth have to do with BT?

lol...!

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File sharing

I continue to download via torrent files because someone somewhere had to either physically steal or buy much of the software, music and video to be able to make a torrent for them anyway. The entertainment industry is already making money from these ppl because of this particular fact. Should file sharing be shutdown or strictly regulated? Not in my book! Personally I don't need to look forward to a world with a digital Hitler telling me what I can or cannot download.

As far as having all of those bittorent sharing sites goes I say congrats! and keep up the good work. It is about time we had a way of screwing over the ppl who try to screw us over.

As far as dividing the internet into regions goes if I could afford it I would have my own internet server orbiting the moon if I could afford it. No government has jurisdiction over that yet.
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