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1 edit | I just don't get it I understand "freedom of speech" motto, but if you are sure that the law will come after you if you do something against it, why do it?
I mean can't the bittorrent hosters for motion pictures and mp3 files see that sooner or later, they're not going to be able to fight with the army of legal experts these folks have with them?
Why are some people obsessed with giving people free movies and songs, that I can't answer... Folks end up watching movies for free and listening to songs for free, and in the end someone else either goes to jail, has his/her equipment confiscated, and be the target of a bajillion law suits...
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join:2002-12-15
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| Re: I just don't get it I think it has more to do with rebellion in youth. They think it's a small thing to rebel with so they do it. Or maybe it is because they are flat broke and paying $20 for a cd or dvd is not exactly within their grasps.
I know plenty of students who work 40 hour weeks and school who really can barely afford to eat , calling home to their family every other week for $100. They get the nice free internet from school so they use it.
As far as sharing. I love to share to my knowledge of computers and software writing for no charge. I actually enjoy seeing some one say that they understand something after I explain it.
Maybe they get the same feeling but from sharing movies or music ? There is however a lot of things I just don't get that i could turn into a comedy special.
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| Re: I just don't get it Yup but I still don't get it... 
I'm not very old, just 31, and I was a headbanging heavy metal kid in late 80s and early 90s. So I was rebellious myself a bit but... oh well...
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Canada | Re: I just don't get it know what's funny, someone has to have bought the cd or dvd to get the copy out, and i know i let people borrow or make them copies of cd's and stuff that i have so they can enjoy it, so in the end their going to get it for free anyway. | |
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| Re: I just don't get it actually if you read the recent article on internet pirating »www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.0···ite.html (www.wired.com) you'd realize there isn't someone buying it. I know I wouldn't go buy a cd just to rip and put on the internet to share with a million people. | |
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join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL | Re: I just don't get it Excellent bit of reading that is.
Explains quite a bit. | |
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join:2004-08-04
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| said by BosstonesOwn  :Or maybe it is because they are flat broke and paying $20 for a cd or dvd is not exactly within their grasps. I don't understand this new mentality. When I was young if I didn't have the money to buy something...I didn't get it! Simply because young people do not have the money to buy a CD does not justify theft of the same. I don't have the money to buy a Lexus LS430....... | |
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| Re: I just don't get it said by FAQFixer : said by BosstonesOwn :Or maybe it is because they are flat broke and paying $20 for a cd or dvd is not exactly within their grasps. I don't understand this new mentality. When I was young if I didn't have the money to buy something...I didn't get it! Simply because young people do not have the money to buy a CD does not justify theft of the same. I don't have the money to buy a Lexus LS430....... I never said it was right , but when I go to colleges to do contract work on thier routers and thier cores , this is the typical answer given.
The funny part is the wear $100 jeans and $90 shirts but won't pop $20 for a dvd or go without it. Instead they download it. I guess it is just one of those things those of us who are older just won't understand.
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| The law isn't coming after anyone.
In fact there hasn't been ONE trial on this. It's all smoke and mirrors. They've basically thrown massive amounts of money around to accomplish nothing. Considering they (MPAA members) had ANOTHER record year in profits this year, they'd have a tough time proving the part of copywrite law that says free duplication must materially effect the owners wellfare. Uh oh. | |
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Superman
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Yermo, CA
1 edit | Re: I just don't get it said by Ahrenl :The law isn't coming after anyone. In fact there hasn't been ONE trial on this. It's all smoke and mirrors. They've basically thrown massive amounts of money around to accomplish nothing. Considering they (MPAA members) had ANOTHER record year in profits this year, they'd have a tough time proving the part of copywrite copyright law that says free duplication must materially affect effect the owners welfare wellfare. Uh oh. Well what It amounts to for the MPAA is each unauthorized duplicate copy made of a movie means some revenue is lost to the maker of said movie or what have you and poor quality copies make the original maker look bad as some people may not know It's an unauthorized duplicate copy of an Original real McCoy and I'd rather see the High Quality version and not a low quality duplicate. | |
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join:2004-05-21
H0H0H0 | 3 Words> Meet The Fockers
My goodness.. I stole it and still paid too much to see it! | |
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Viper007Bond
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join:2002-09-26
Portland, OR
| Really the future? Appears to be something like eMule meets BT. Anyone think this really is the future or a lotta hype?
If I understand it correctly, everything is P2P, so then what stops abuse of the lists or whatever?
I think we're left with more questions than answers at this point.
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| Re: Really the future? said by Viper007Bond :I think we're left with more questions than answers at this point. I have more questions at this point.
I think its the actual nature of BT, that being the way you actually *get* chunks of whatever from bunches of people that totally undermines whatever privacy this may indeed provide.
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| Re: Don't count me in oh ok moo2 - "it will contain spyware/adware" huh? Just like the open source code of emule and tons of other BT clients like azureus etc have right? you idiot.
Did you even research anything before you run your mouth?
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join:2004-06-21
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| Re: Don't count me in said by hitman247 :oh ok moo2 - "it will contain spyware/adware" huh? Just like the open source code of emule and tons of other BT clients like azureus etc have right? you idiot. Did you even research anything before you run your mouth? As for it being a combination of emule and BT, wouldnt that end up being emule with slightly faster speeds? Don't be such a jerk exeem will NOT be open source to my knowlege and it will contain adware/spyware by sloncek's own admission face it its another kazaa.
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| Re: Don't count me in I downloaded exeem beta 0.16 and it asks for a serial. The one I have doesn't work...
I thought the beta was a closed one only because they wanted to control the distribution of a client (to prevent RIAA and MPAA from getting it while in development). | |
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join:2003-02-15
Sanford, FL | Seperate spy/adware or ad banner like Opera? I wasnt sure after reading the /. article if it's going to have a bundled adware/spyware program or if there will be an ad-banner box in the application? | |
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | What is really needed is to distribute the tracker Distribute the tracker, not the torrent files. I remember Slackware's tracker was unusable for about a couple of days after the realease of Slackware 10. | |
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join:2004-12-31
Oceanside, CA | Re: What is really needed is to distribute the tra From what I've read exeem makes everyone a tracker. Not sure if it's correct though, because there isn't a whole lot of information out there on it that I can find at least. | |
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mbgeek
join:2003-09-07
Spring Valley, NY | Probably a stupid question... ...why can't new torrent files just be posted on a newsgroup? Lord knows they have NEVER been able to stop posting stuff to a newsgroup...
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1 edit | Re: Probably a stupid question... said by mbgeek :...why can't new torrent files just be posted on a newsgroup? Lord knows they have NEVER been able to stop posting stuff to a newsgroup... Just wondering if I'm missing something It still needs a tracker for the torrent to work. (it doesn't need an index listing, however)
Well I guess we'll se sticking to our PRIVATE trackers to continue to use bittorrent's awesome file delivery methods.
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| Re: In time all of these SCUMBAG Pirates will go.. no they wouldn't
an idiot is still an idiot, whether they register or not
just consider him as registered user taylor01comcast and try to ignore him
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join:2002-12-15
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| Re: In time all of these SCUMBAG Pirates will go.. because the words he uses, it doesn't set off any of the filters I suppose.
Like I said maybe if the person registered we wouldn't take them as a troll every time they open thier mouth. but I highly doubt they would.
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join:2001-12-24
USA
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| said by KissMyStick:
...to PRISON where they belong.
They can run, but they can't hide. If you steal copyright protected works or if you FACILITATE theft or distribution of copyright works, you go to PRISON like any other SCUMBAG CRIMINAL.
Funny how most of the staunch tough talking posters always do so in an anonymous fashion. | |
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join:2001-12-24
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Hi! My name is Jason, to lazy to register. and I'm a scumbag.
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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4 edits | KissMyStick judging by your handle I was wondering if either of the above are your favorite snack. It must be rough to be a troll. By the way have you tried for a bit part on the next Harry Potter Movie I understand they are looking for a mountain troll. The part even has a few lines. You have to learn the troll's language but it shouldn't be that hard all you do is point and grunt.
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| said by KissMyStick:
...to PRISON where they belong.
They can run, but they can't hide. If you steal copyright protected works or if you FACILITATE theft or distribution of copyright works, you go to PRISON like any other SCUMBAG CRIMINAL.
Don't be a hater. There's lots of reasons for the corporate fat ass rich mother fuckers to go to jail too. | |
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Elf Wizard
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| such as price fixing of CDs, which they got in trouble for with the FTC if i remember. and what about TV shows? nothing wrong with downloading those since you allready get them free(though i could see stuff like the sopranos being a shady area since HBO isnt free).
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Wyatt
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Stockton, CA
| said by KissMyStick:
...to PRISON where they belong.
They can run, but they can't hide. If you steal copyright protected works or if you FACILITATE theft or distribution of copyright works, you go to PRISON like any other SCUMBAG CRIMINAL.
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
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| what next isn't anyone upset that the mpaa/riaa is using taxpayer govt services at their will. the fbi is not here to look for torrent site ops. Need to find Osama and leave internet alone. If MPAA wants fight that's cool, there will be no geneva code in this war. | |
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| Agreed I agree, they need to use their money & resources to intercept communication from Terrorists & help find Bin Laden. Stop wasting time & money with piracy. 
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It's already been proven that terrorist networks fund themselves through p2p networks.
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The U.S. Government funds more terrorists than some P2P ever did?
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join:2004-02-11
Sequim, WA
| Who's money is it? Terrorist organizations are funded with money that came from governments defrauding the people they claim to protect. How many times have we heard the government of the usa selling arms/drugs illegally to fund some covert op. The usa has no validity among the nations anymore, article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof. Today however, the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value.
They (united states) are a fictitious regime from day one, they claim one nation under God, but God has only one nation chosen, Israel. USA also has no legal currency, nothing to back it up, not silver or gold. The money printed does not belong to the united states, or to the people it is merely an IOU that passes hands and completely worthless. The movies and music that come out, should be pirated and distributed free of charge until the economy collapses and forcing people back to the truth "things of this world will pass away, but The Word endures forever". The hell bent push to stop file sharing is because of the weakness of the american dollar. The american government is so bankrupt they need increasingly more and more money to portray the wealthy image they want to represent(even thought the rest of the world is seeing her as a used up whore, unwilling to pimp her out). While music and movies may be worthless for the edification of the soul, there is much information that is worthwhile. I strive for the pushing forward of any information that may have any opportunity to increase ones self awareness of higher thought. If it means infringing copyright, then so be it. There is nothing in this earth that will endure anyway. The one thing I fight more than any other is the copyright of a bible translation. I personally advocate the copyright infringement of the bible and all translations of it and every song that claims to be of a "christian" nature. If the people are truly following the light, then they are singing to GOD and the music belongs to Him. Just my .02
"The Federal Reserve System was created by the Federal Reserve Act, and passed by both houses of Congress prior to Christmas recess on December 22, 1913. Section 5 of the Federal Reserve Act calls for a member bank to buy and hold stock in a district Federal Reserve Bank equal to 6% of its capital and surplus. For example, as of 1983, ten major New York City banks owned approximately 66% of the outstanding stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. That Bank in turn owns a portion of the stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of the U.S. together with the eleven regional member banks. A review of the major stockholders of the ten New York city banks clearly shows that a few families related by blood, marriage or business interests control those 10 New York city banks, which in turn, hold the controlling stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. In addition, approximately 38% of the stock of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (as of 1983) was held by banks that are subsidiaries of foreign banks, namely the House of Rothschild which controls the Bank of England. The fact that the Federal Reserve System is controlled by private interests is one of the best kept secrets in American history."
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Chester, IL | Re: Who's money is it? Why yes, God wants us to steal!
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| Re: Who's money is it? It made Him angry at the fact they made a profit off the exchange rate in the temple. I can't imagine His wrath on the scribes for a fee mentality of the bible publishers/translators. Moses could have made a fortune off the royalties on the 10 commandments.
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following article posted at p2pnet.net about the MPAA's
crusade against BT tracker sites, and especially the last
few paragraphs of the article where it disproves nearly
everything they've been claiming, and shows their real
motive: to dominate the online distribution of movies,
music and software. And the real counterfeiters are for
the most part getting away scot-free:
»p2pnet.net/story/3409
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| A Tangent - Personally, I don't think that any artist really deserves millions upon millions of dollars to sing or act. From the rappers with 100's of gold chains singing about the hood, to the pampered actress who demands that she ONLY has a certain type of bottled water in her dressing room - they need to be happy with much less.
Take an actor playing a fireman who saves a life... he'll make more for the one movie than an actual fireman who has saved hundreds of lives would make in several lifetimes. I just can't feel sorry for them. Sure, people deserve to get paid - including the grips and the people behind the cameras - just more equitably.
Find someone to sing and act for less money - and doesn't need an entourage to go to the bathroom or broker their deals and you wouldn't have the people living off of these high priced 'gods' and 'goddesses' pressuring the government to keep the downloaders from stealing 'their' money. | |
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| Re: A Tangent - at the end of the day nothin wrong with a bit of friendly compition. if p2p forces lower prices and there still making large profits its all good with me. as for exeem it looks a nice little interface but cant see where they are going to stick them ads. im hoping that the ads will be shown from within the main page which is like the kazaa main view that shows there web page. and i think he said most ads were optional. im sure if it is full of crap somone will come out with a light version. only thing that still puzzles me is who is swarm systems.inc (ppl who reged exeem.com) | |
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I don't think that any artist really deserves millions upon millions of dollars to sing or act
You would have to pay me that much to be famous. What a pain in the ass that must be. Sure, some people like it, but I hate when people even come up to me after I play (I'm a drummer) and complement me. I could never handle that in large numbers. Ugh.
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join:2004-12-31
Lancaster, OH
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Not only that but, if the profits are increasing instead of decreasing, that tells me that more, um, technology-handicapped people are entering the population than are people that have the knowledge to even be able to pirate these things. The funniest part of the whole situation is that, out of all the people pirating, they don't even realize how many of them could afford these things. I'm sure that there are some people that could afford it that don't pay, but there are many of us that can't afford it and wouldn't buy it if they couldn't get it otherwise. They think they are losing a lot of money, but I don't think so. Personally, I would rather have the professional version than a copied version and would pay for the professional version when I had the money. I'll bet that most people agree. That's why their profit margins aren't changing. | |
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join:2004-03-14
Wheeling, WV
| BitTorrent - don't bother, kids. Quote from a USENET posting...
Been trying bit-torrent downloads, and found it's like a study in bandwidth waste. Maybe I've set it up all wrong or missed some vital detail, I don't know. Would like to hear comments from some knowledgeable person.
Each download with enough active sources and seeders starts out nicely and chugs along fine. Up to a point. The last few megs always takes hours upon hours. All the while, digits comes and goes through the connection like crazy, but it seems most of it is overhead, like calls and requests and denials etc etc. Few bits are the ones you need to complete that download struggling at 99.6%.
Wonder if the guys who invented this torrent system, thought it through and found the best algorithms for worldwide filesharing? Reports in media says the nets capacity is eaten away by bit torrents. Seen figures between 30% to over 50%.
I don't know, but isn't this setup roughly like tearing a bunch of copies of a magazines into tiny pieces and giving a random handful each to alot of people. If someone wants to puzzle together a complete magazine, he'd be fine with calling the first several people. Most would have pieces he's missing. But finally when he's looking for that last piece, he'd have to ask lots and lots of people, and most would say : "sorry, don't have it, I'm looking for it too"
So all around the world people sit with almost completed files, placing myriads of calls each second, looking for rare bits. To happen upon a source or seeder having just that elusive last piece, with a slot open at that exact moment, isn't easy. And when interest in a file goes down, the sources get fewer, and finding the last bits gets
even harder. So in the real world, you're better off with a slow ftp or binaries download. You'll be finished long before the bit torrent, because the torrent gets so insanely inefficient towards the end of each download. Sure, the speed for the first 90% is just brilliant, but it's all eaten away by the last 10%, with extremely poor efficiency and wasted bandwidth, because of all the calls and searches for slots throughout the net.
Anybody knows? Are bit torrents the best thing ever, or is it just a bright idea that doesn't work so well in the real world? Because if it's true and the nets bandwidth is eaten away by redundant calls for specific bits, then torrents aren't so good, and the idea should be scrapped or fixed.
Isn't it insanity to have Gigs going up and down a connection, for the download of only a few hundred Megs ?
Wouldn't the internet be better off without this kind of resource hogging?
Isn't the whole idea a little bit like a pyramid-scheme. If you're in early you're fine. If you're in late, the complete seeders and downloaders are gone, and there's only incomplete files left with people struggling to complete them between each other. And that takes huge amounts of calls and replies. Most people I talk to who've tried torrents, have several big incomplete files on their discs. And they hang on to them, in a vain hope that one day they might get completed. | |
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join:2004-03-21
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| Isn't it insanity to have Gigs going up and down a connection, for the download of only a few hundred Megs ?
Wouldn't the internet be better off without this kind of resource hogging?
Wow... that *totally* misses the point of BitTorrent.
The ENTIRE point of BT is to keep one or two main sources from getting absolutely hammered and murdered in terms of bandwidth. Would you rather set up a server and then watch as the entire world hammers it trying to get the files from it, or would it be better if some of that load could be distributed off to those who've already downlaoded a portion of the file(s)?
Example... When SI Games released their demos of NHL:EHM and Football Manager, they did so using BitTorrent at first. Why? Because the distributed load at first helped keep them from being hammered offline and out of existance as people would have tried over and over to get to the site and get the files.
BitTorrent isn't at all about efficiency for the end user, it's about efficiency for the "seed", or the origination of the source for whatever file (be it a legal file or illegal).
And to be honest... keeping things more-efficient for the server end makes it more-efficient for everyone in the longrun.
That being said I still get ticked at having to donwload some things off BT when a direct HTTP or FTP download would suffice (sometimes BT really *is* unnecessary), but some tweaking of your ports helps BT immensely, whatever you download.
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Cincinnati, OH
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Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| blizzard using bittorrent for their World of Warcraft patcher has alot of people angry, and i agree as you shouldnt have to configure a router to patch a MMO(you dont with EQ, EQ2, Planetside, SWG, DAOC)and all of those give 400k/sec even at peak.
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join:2003-01-19 | Re: BitTorrent - don't bother, kids. maybe they have more cash for bandwidth. | |
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reeley
join:2005-01-03
ENGLAND
| piracy it exists, it proabaly always will. Keeps the revenue boys busy. Me? I prefer to buy my original DVDs, mostly because I'm a saddo that really (Really!) enjoys all the extras, the outaakes, deleted scenes, production notes etc, the high quality of the product and the pleasure of owning a library of films that I enjoy to watch time and again. I scour sites to buy obscure old films released on DVD. I do not mock, condemn, decry or support downloaders. All I will do is contnue to buy fully featured DVDs, and enjoy them at home with my family.
Yup, I'm sad, I guess.
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grey77
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| Re: piracy It's simple.. it makes these forms of media more accessbible to new audiences who aren't willing to dump full price just to try something new. In sampling this way (opposed to crappy amazon RA clips that give bad impressions of otherwise good songs) people can actually choose to buy something they know they will love. There is a lot of plop out there, and 10 out of 12 times I am thankful I didn't waste the money on what I just heard or viewed..and wouldn't waste the time to listen let alone download it again. Delete. It's even a waste of disk space.
Then there will be those few standouts that really hit home, so much you want the art work, the liner notes..and the real thing sitting in your collection. I took enough chances with my money trying to discover new things, and while i discovered some wonderful things, it was an awful investment. There is plenty of stuff out there that isn't covered in commercials and listening stations at overpriced bookstores.
If you look at the statistics, this is a pretty common stance. Music and movie lovers will buy the product if it strikes a chord with them. And music wise, plenty of respectable artists see this and support this any way they can. I can go to certain artists websites and stream their entire mainstream collection, and you know anyone hanging around their site already owns the albums.
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@milwwi.ameritech
|  Piracy will always be around
I work in retail and I can assure you, there is no shortage of people buying the newest CD or DVD when it's released. They are making their money back plus tons of profit. I also believe that what they're doing to these bittorrent sites is a form of legal monopoly. BitTorrent is by far a cheaper, easier and more effective way to distribute information, compared to the conventional method of shipping it to a store. The MPAA and RIAA know this, and they are threatened by it. Believe it or not, it is a form of competition.
Last but not least, I'd just like to say that I'm not posting this on here to read your feedback to what I'm saying nor am I here to argue about who's right and who's wrong. I have my own opinion and I'm simply stating it here. If you do not agree with what I've said, good. That's the beauty of this country, everyone has their own opinion. I respect yours, all I ask is that you respect mine. Keep pirating and Viva la Revolution. | |
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ViniTheHat
Hat Trickery
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join:2002-09-29
Brooklyn, NY
| small record labels.. allow you to buy a CD direct from them. look at Lookout Records... you can buy their latest releases, price w/ shipping: $10.
i think thats fair. i honestly would never consider pirating media from sources that i know will actually benefit from my purchase.
but DLing a T.V. show that has already been aired and cancelled? haha. why not. it might as well not even exist.
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| exeem announcement if you want to hear what sloncek himself had to say about exeem then visit »www.novastream.org and go to archives and download the sloncek interview. i am a 15 yr old and i use torrents for pc games mainly, the reason i do is because i complete games pretty quick so used to spend a lot of money on them, now i just download for free, crack it, find a serial and play. | |
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